Totally unacceptable

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    what part of the story upsets you the most?

    Do you believe that sex offenders CAN be rehabilitated?
     
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    Our legal system states that once you have served your sentence you have paid your debt to society. These laws deny that basic principle. They are cruel and unusual punishment outside the legal grounds of a court. They violate the basic human rights of the people effected by the laws, people that have served their sentence and been released , which again, in our system means they paid their debt.

    The law seeks to permanently work corruption on a person even though legally they have paid their debt as required by our laws and our Constitution. It creates a subclass of people unable to find a place to live or work even though they are no longer in prison nor on parole or probation. It violates the rights of the person so effected. Violates in contrivance of our Constitution.

    There was a 6 year old in the last few years that falls under this law. His crime? He kissed a classmate. It is ignorant and unacceptable.
     
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    so you do believe that criminals can be rehabilitated?
     
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    Amendment V applies as well...

    Due process of law has not occurred to deny these people liberty or property. One can not pass a law that denies them this protection. These laws do JUST that. The original charge and conviction has been served. The Government can not now deny them liberty without a trial and specific charges.

    And do not play the State versus Federal game either. The 14th Amendment negates that claim.
     
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    By the way Maineman, I can not read what you post ( the whole Ignore thing) so no idea if your agreeing or disagreeing. Of course my experience with you is that anything I say you disagree with just to disagree with it.
     
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    I am trying to have a polite discussion with you...

    and if you are not involved in that somehow, who the hell are you posting to?

    do you believe in rehabilitation? It would seem that you do, to some degree.

    and if you believe that, once criminals have paid their debt to society, that they ought to be treated no differently than any other citizen (whose "debts" are paid up), then do you support allowing them to vote?
     
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    he is being polite, he is asking if you think criminals can be rehabilitated.

     
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    I do not believe sex offenders can be re-habbed.
     
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    this is exactly what maineman said

    I am trying to have a polite discussion with you...

    and if you are not involved in that somehow, who the hell are you posting to?

    do you believe in rehabilitation? It would seem that you do, to some degree.

    and if you believe that, once criminals have paid their debt to society, that they ought to be treated no differently than any other citizen (whose "debts" are paid up), then do you support allowing them to vote?
     

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