Top Ten Cities for Electric Cars

[JimH52]

Top 10 US Cities For Electric Cars | Bankrate.com

Please note that Houston is in the top ten. Texas is Changing!

 

[skookerasbil]

Top 10 US Cities For Electric Cars | Bankrate.com

Please note that Houston is in the top ten. Texas is Changing!

Of course it is s0n!!!

Lets face it.....most of Texas thinks EV's are gay. C'mon.....its Texas!!!

 

[JimH52]

Top 10 US Cities For Electric Cars | Bankrate.com

Please note that Houston is in the top ten. Texas is Changing!

Of course it is s0n!!!

Lets face it.....most of Texas thinks EV's are gay. C'mon.....its Texas!!!

Progress and innovation will come to Texas, just like it will to other states. It may take a little longer in Texas, but it will come.

 

[skookerasbil]

Top 10 US Cities For Electric Cars | Bankrate.com

Please note that Houston is in the top ten. Texas is Changing!

Of course it is s0n!!!

Lets face it.....most of Texas thinks EV's are gay. C'mon.....its Texas!!!

Progress and innovation will come to Texas, just like it will to other states. It may take a little longer in Texas, but it will come.

Yeah but nobody cares.......

Its like this s0n.......its like somebody taking some big old cowboy hats up to Boston and stating it is the emergence of some new gigantic fashion trend.

 

[polarbear]

Of course it is s0n!!!

Lets face it.....most of Texas thinks EV's are gay. C'mon.....its Texas!!!

Progress and innovation will come to Texas, just like it will to other states. It may take a little longer in Texas, but it will come.

Yeah but nobody cares.......

Its like this s0n.......its like somebody taking some big old cowboy hats up to Boston and stating it is the emergence of some new gigantic fashion trend.

I have this habit to double check things.
The article he quoted only states how many charging stations there are, not how many EV`s are in these 10 cities.
On the first page there are 3 stations but no EV`s in sight:

Then the author (Tara Baukus Mello) goes on and claims that there are 97 charging stations in San Diego:

San Diego

Fueling stations: 97

This most up to date list for San Diego says there are only 27 in that area:
http://www.evchargernews.com/regions/ch-sd-all.htm

This listing is in order by City, then by Location Name within City. Cities in the list below:
Carlsbad, Chula Vista, El Cajon, Encinitas, Escondido, La Jolla, La Mesa, National City, Oceanside, San Diego, San Marcos, Santee

Total number of charging sites shown on this listing is 27.

Total number of small-paddle inductive chargers shown is 14.
Total number of large-paddle inductive chargers shown is 27.
Total number of Avcon-type charging stations shown is 10.
Total number of Tesla Connector charging stations shown is 0.

In that article Houston is @ #7:

Houston

Fueling stations: 79

But if you check it out, according to the most up to date Google maps and "www.greenhoustontx.gov/ev" there are only 40:
City of Houston Electric Vehicles Information

So it`s as you said

[Its like this s0n.......its like somebody taking some big old cowboy hats up to Boston and stating it is the emergence of some new gigantic fashion trend.

And the article he quoted was from the web page of "bankrate.com" which is peddling car loans for EV`s
Auto Loans and Auto Loan Rates in the United States-- Free search for the best auto loan rates

 

[DriftingSand]

I'm saving up for one of these -- Ford F650 -- fully decked out:

 

[elektra]

Electric Cars requires infrastructure for charging that will be a 1000 times larger than the existing infrastructure for gas powered cars, yet for some reason all this production and building and manufacturing that will take place in heavy industry is ignored.

The single greatest source of pollution on earth is now the development of "Green/Renewable" stuff. Like batteries for electric cars, thousands of dollars charging stations, and millions upon millions of Windmills everywhere to slowly attempt to charge them.

WORLD | ?Charge rage? shocks Silicon Valley enviros | David Sonju | Jan. 31, 2014

Charge rage’ shocks Silicon Valley enviros
ENVIRONMENT
By DAVID SONJU
Posted Jan. 31, 2014, 09:30 a.m.

In California’s Silicon Valley, drivers of electric cars are finding it increasingly difficult to access car-charging stations at work. The growing popularity of electric vehicles (EVs) is in many cases outpacing the number of charging ports that companies are willing to install for their employees. The soaring demand for charging ports is leading to incidents of “charge rage” at some companies, and giving rise to a new sphere of workplace etiquette issues.

George Betak learned the hard way about the hazards of charging etiquette. Betak told the San Jose Mercury News about his experiences scrambling for one of the limited charging spots available to the 100 employees driving EVs at Yahoo’s Sunnyvale headquarters. “I needed to be somewhere by 6 p.m., and all of the active chargers were full. I couldn’t plug in all day,” he said. “There was a Volt that appeared to be finished charging, so I unplugged it so I could get a half-hour boost. … The next day, I learned that the Volt owner was furious, and he sent out this email blast saying that I stole his charge. It was awful.”

Peter Graf, chief sustainability officer for German software company SAP, said the company’s 16 charging stations are now not nearly enough for the 61 employees who drive electric cars.

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“Cars are getting unplugged while they are actively charging, and that’s a problem,” he said. Employees are calling and messaging each other, saying, ‘I see you’re fully charged, can you please move your car?”

SAP, like other companies, is drafting guidelines for EV-driving employees.

While only about 20,000 electric cars now drive California roads, Pacific Gas & Electric Co. expects 800,000 by the year 2020. If projections are correct, it could create an extraordinary demand for charging stations. Currently there are only 5,000 in California and 20,000 nationwide.

ChargePoint, which operates a large EV-charging network, says companies should provide one charging port for every two EV’s. “Having two chargers and 20 electric cars is worse than having no chargers and 20 electric cars. If you are going to do this, you have to be willing to scale it,” said Pat Romano, ChargePoint’s CEO.

Adding chargers is expensive and many companies do not want to invest in permanent EV-charging infrastructure in leased office space.

Some Silicone Valley companies are taking creative steps to alleviate charge rage in the workplace. Infoblox only has six charging stations for its nearly 30 employees who drive EV’s. So, the company set up a shared calendar for EV charging stations. “You can only book for a two-hour window,” said David Gee, the company’s executive vice president of marketing. “But Rule No. 1 is: No one touches anyone else’s car without permission.”

 

[skookerasbil]

I'm saving up for one of these -- Ford F650 -- fully decked out:

sIcK

 

[JimH52]

Progress and innovation will come to Texas, just like it will to other states. It may take a little longer in Texas, but it will come.

Yeah but nobody cares.......

Its like this s0n.......its like somebody taking some big old cowboy hats up to Boston and stating it is the emergence of some new gigantic fashion trend.

I have this habit to double check things.
The article he quoted only states how many charging stations there are, not how many EV`s are in these 10 cities.
On the first page there are 3 stations but no EV`s in sight:

Then the author (Tara Baukus Mello) goes on and claims that there are 97 charging stations in San Diego:

This most up to date list for San Diego says there are only 27 in that area:
http://www.evchargernews.com/regions/ch-sd-all.htm
In that article Houston is @ #7:

Houston

Fueling stations: 79

But if you check it out, according to the most up to date Google maps and "www.greenhoustontx.gov/ev" there are only 40:
City of Houston Electric Vehicles Information

So it`s as you said

[Its like this s0n.......its like somebody taking some big old cowboy hats up to Boston and stating it is the emergence of some new gigantic fashion trend.

And the article he quoted was from the web page of "bankrate.com" which is peddling car loans for EV`s
Auto Loans and Auto Loan Rates in the United States-- Free search for the best auto loan rates

Yeah, I guess that is what people with horse and buggies said about service stations when they began popping up. Good Grief....Grow a Brain

 

[whitehall]

Here's the deal, there are approximately 2 million electric hybrid cars on the road. Make up whatever statistics you want to regarding blue states and red states but you are left with the uncomfortable fact that more light trucks are sold in the US in a single month than all the freaking electric junk on the road in the whole Country.

 

[HenryBHough]

Liberals love free stuff.

Offer 'em free electricity and they'll rush out to buy subsidized EVs.

Let 'em have free electricity for about 90-days then start metering and deduct from their after-tax salaries.

See how quickly the used EV market is glutted.

 

[skookerasbil]

Yeah but nobody cares.......

Its like this s0n.......its like somebody taking some big old cowboy hats up to Boston and stating it is the emergence of some new gigantic fashion trend.

I have this habit to double check things.
The article he quoted only states how many charging stations there are, not how many EV`s are in these 10 cities.
On the first page there are 3 stations but no EV`s in sight:

Then the author (Tara Baukus Mello) goes on and claims that there are 97 charging stations in San Diego:

This most up to date list for San Diego says there are only 27 in that area:
http://www.evchargernews.com/regions/ch-sd-all.htm
In that article Houston is @ #7:
But if you check it out, according to the most up to date Google maps and "www.greenhoustontx.gov/ev" there are only 40:
City of Houston Electric Vehicles Information

So it`s as you said

[Its like this s0n.......its like somebody taking some big old cowboy hats up to Boston and stating it is the emergence of some new gigantic fashion trend.

And the article he quoted was from the web page of "bankrate.com" which is peddling car loans for EV`s
Auto Loans and Auto Loan Rates in the United States-- Free search for the best auto loan rates

Yeah, I guess that is what people with horse and buggies said about service stations when they began popping up. Good Grief....Grow a Brain

EXCEEDINGLY poor analogy.


s0n.......like most far lefties, you fail to realize that "costs" matter. The electricity doesn't come from the ground where those stations are. To idiots like you, its like popping a STOP sign in the ground on the corner......not like that in the real world however.

Nobody wants EV's......just like renewable energy is fringe energy, EV's are fringe vehicles. Why? In both cases, it is due to costs. To a huge majority of the public, costs matter.......but not to the k00ks. Which is why EV's and guys like you continue to be fringe.


About 80,000 Ford Mustangs were sold last year. Not one single owner would ever be caught dead driving a little faggy EV. Same with people who own the following cars: Camaro's, Challenger, Charger, Porsche, any Caddy, Corvette........and many Japanese imports that are high performance. Performance oriented drivers laugh when they see EV's........its just the way it is and nothing will change that. This is America.......most men still have balls and have not yet fallen pray to the feminization of America like many far lefties. Sorry I cant help you s0n!!


Panty waist pussies like Mammooth might be interested in tooling around town in one of those faggy little 2 door specks and his gay cat on his lap!! That shit is rare though. Limpwristed social oddballs have lived in a fringe world their whole life due to being social outcasts........thus, they are very comfortable in an oddball gay vehicle like an EV. Most men piss their pants laughing at men driving these faggy little cars.


Like these two freaks wouldn't think twice about driving an EV ( wonder if the guy on the right is Mamooth?? )

 

[HenryBHough]

Soon America will be awash with all-electric vehicles.

Soon America will have closed down all coal-fired and nuclear power plants.

Soon Americans will get to choose between having lighting in their homes or running their EVs. Because when there's not enough electricity to go around there'll be rationing in the name of equality.

Of course the more affluent greenies won't mind because the propeller atop their beanies will produce enough electricity for their personal needs. Provided they can run fast enough.

 

[westwall]

Yeah but nobody cares.......

Its like this s0n.......its like somebody taking some big old cowboy hats up to Boston and stating it is the emergence of some new gigantic fashion trend.

I have this habit to double check things.
The article he quoted only states how many charging stations there are, not how many EV`s are in these 10 cities.
On the first page there are 3 stations but no EV`s in sight:

Then the author (Tara Baukus Mello) goes on and claims that there are 97 charging stations in San Diego:

This most up to date list for San Diego says there are only 27 in that area:
http://www.evchargernews.com/regions/ch-sd-all.htm
In that article Houston is @ #7:
But if you check it out, according to the most up to date Google maps and "www.greenhoustontx.gov/ev" there are only 40:
City of Houston Electric Vehicles Information

So it`s as you said

[Its like this s0n.......its like somebody taking some big old cowboy hats up to Boston and stating it is the emergence of some new gigantic fashion trend.

And the article he quoted was from the web page of "bankrate.com" which is peddling car loans for EV`s
Auto Loans and Auto Loan Rates in the United States-- Free search for the best auto loan rates

Yeah, I guess that is what people with horse and buggies said about service stations when they began popping up. Good Grief....Grow a Brain

Polarbear was merely pointing out the pathetic degree to which you progressives will resort to lies...er propaganda...to support your goals.

 

[elektra]

Yeah but nobody cares.......

Its like this s0n.......its like somebody taking some big old cowboy hats up to Boston and stating it is the emergence of some new gigantic fashion trend.

I have this habit to double check things.
The article he quoted only states how many charging stations there are, not how many EV`s are in these 10 cities.
On the first page there are 3 stations but no EV`s in sight:

So it`s as you said

[Its like this s0n.......its like somebody taking some big old cowboy hats up to Boston and stating it is the emergence of some new gigantic fashion trend.

And the article he quoted was from the web page of "bankrate.com" which is peddling car loans for EV`s
Auto Loans and Auto Loan Rates in the United States-- Free search for the best auto loan rates

Yeah, I guess that is what people with horse and buggies said about service stations when they began popping up. Good Grief....Grow a Brain

Uh, people with horses and buggies were not taxed and forced to research and develop the cars and service stations. Imagine if you told those people you will be taxed to pay for something you do not need, further the government did not pass laws banning horses.

The equivalent would be a cap and tax on feeding horses and the demonization of horses as destroying the earth, the newspapers would be running articles telling the folks back then how horses are destroying the environment and the only way to save the environment is to build the largest things they ever saw?

You sound like Old Crock who made the ridiculous claim that Henry Ford was using Horse Drawn wagons to deliver materials to Henry Ford's Highland Park factory instead of Trains, which one can still see the train yard exactly next to the factory in Highland Park.

 

[DriftingSand]

Soon America will be awash with all-electric vehicles.

Soon America will have closed down all coal-fired and nuclear power plants.

Soon Americans will get to choose between having lighting in their homes or running their EVs. Because when there's not enough electricity to go around there'll be rationing in the name of equality.

Of course the more affluent greenies won't mind because the propeller atop their beanies will produce enough electricity for their personal needs. Provided they can run fast enough.

Good point. The moment we have "rolling blackouts" a bunch of folks won't be going to work; the doctor; the store; the emergency room; etc. Even the rich Democrats who own them will be stuck on the side of the road.

 

[HenryBHough]

Good point. The moment we have "rolling blackouts" a bunch of folks won't be going to work; the doctor; the store; the emergency room; etc. Even the rich Democrats who own them will be stuck on the side of the road.

I'm guessing here but it's a somewhat educated guess:

Step 1: Brownouts. In this line voltage (now a nominal 120V) is reduced for all users. The typical reduction is around 10% so most appliances will work though they will not work as efficiently as ordinarily. Unless the line voltage goes below 99 Volts most unit UPS systems will tolerate it but (and this is something many UPS allow you to select) beyond their low limit they'll switch over to their internal batteries until those are depleted and your computer (or whatever) shuts down entirely.

Step 2: Not an intentional step but it can happen. Line frequency, ordinarily very precise at 60 Cycles per Second (Hertz or Hz) falls off. Electric motors run slower and hotter. Clocks run slow.

Step 3: Rolling blackouts. Power is cut off to an entire area for a period of time so others can use their A/C or furnace (seasonal) sufficiently to keep conditions liveable. Something not often seen in The U.S. but it has been, notably in California during hot, dry (no hydro power) summers.

Other possibilities:

In rural communities there may be diesel backup generators with a local supply of fuel. Those communities can be shed from the grid and go local so long as the fuel lasts. Sometimes the equipment is not the best and the voltage/frequency can run wild doing a lot of damage to home appliances and electronics. NOT common.

Price rationing. As power generation facilities close the cost of running and maintaining those remaining climbs. Guess who pays? This is mitigated in some countries by government subsidy. When the subsidy is reduced there are riots and regime change. Usually for the worse.

Negative incentives. It was once not uncommon to have the first "block" of consumed power priced a little high to encourage switching from gas (then manufactured rather than "natural") to electricity. Use more and the next block had a lower rate; more still and the rate got lower. Now it's becoming fashionable to do the reverse. Make the smaller users pay less per kWh (kilo Watt hour) and big users pay more. Negative incentives are already here and you didn't even notice!

Mandatory usage reduction: We regularly see this in places like California with water. In drought years cities lay down edicts. Cut your water usage by 10% or your water gets turned off. Same can be done with electricity.

Some mitigation can come from home installations of solar panels and even, in the hands of responsible, skilled folks, wind machines. Interesting economics there just now. Equipment prices are falling but beyond a certain point increasing demand will outstrip supply and prices will rise. Definitely rise for installation as demand increases. There will be some accidental deaths as amateurs fall off roofs. There will be some accidental fires as amateur electricians get it wrong. Those will be self-limiting and could be considered just minor collateral damage - helpful overall as it will reduce (Darwin factor) the population of the stupid so they are no longer consuming food, water and air.

A homeowner with the money available from savings, loans or even the public trough, typically will be suckered into "net metering" in hopes of getting money back from a utility. It's a trap because, without on-premise storage (batteries are all that's available today) you remain ultimately at the mercy of the grid.

My own approach? When the situation permitted I equipped a small remote cabin with solar cells and a bank of batteries. Rigged it up with two electrical systems. One for 120VAC for those times when sunlight was plentiful and I had no concerns over charging/recharging. One for 12VDC to run a few lights and a small radio/CD player. Enough storage for a week or two with moderate usage. NO grid connection; no electric bill. The place was not only recreational but (equipped with a pot burner stove, no electricity required) stove, a bolt-hole for those days when the local power plant was shut down. Nope. No grid available, all "city" power was from diesel generators of massive size.

Unfortunately not a practical alternative for most.

Best advice?

Read up on how folks in rural India deal with intermittent electrical power. You may never need the knowledge but wouldn't it be nice to have it if and WHEN you do.

 

[elektra]

Yes, no problem, read up on how the third world deals with no power.

 

[DriftingSand]

Changed my mind. I'm gonna get this instead:

 

[mamooth]

Soon Americans will get to choose between having lighting in their homes or running their EVs. Because when there's not enough electricity to go around there'll be rationing in the name of equality.

Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo ....

Maybe you can set up a secret comm line with the other crazy folk, and you can all tell each other how clever you were to hide in your anti-reality bunkers. Kind of like you're doing here.

Meanwhile, everyone else will be moving forward, not to mention laughing our asses off at you.