Toll Roads - Government Greed at it's worst

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    DC drivers are appalled and shocked at some of the tolls in their DAILY commute from Virgina suburbs into the DC area. Tolls as high as $40 for a one way commute are brazenly and proudly flashed up on bright electronic billboards.

    DC-area drivers blast I-66 tolling system as fees hit $40 mark
    In Miami Florida, now one of the most congested metro areas in the USA, where nearly 1 million people per day rely on I-95 for travel into and out of the Miami area, the state, in 2012, took one lane away from normal traffic and turned it into an "Express Lane", where for a toll ranging from $4.00 to $16.00, you can "hopefully" avoid congestion and move at a faster pace in Dade county. Now minus one lane, that resulted in horrific delays for the bulk of traffic passing through the Metro Miami area. But, the financial rewards to Dade county and the State of Florida were significant. So much so that they confiscated yet ANOTHER lane in the already miserably congested I-95 South Florida corridor in 2016. Today, it can take 3 hours or more to drive from downtown Miami to Fort. Lauderdale, a mere 26 miles away.

    LosAngeles county lookout.....a new traffic jam King is knocking in South Florida.

    It is rumored that the State and Dade County, given the lack of complaints, and the windfall in excess revenues to spend on electives such as new furniture for the state capital and Miami's City Hall and political pet projects, yet ANOTHER lane is proposed to be confiscated....leaving only 3 lanes for that million commuters to suffer through daily !!

    Ironically, the roads in these places are usually the worst to drive with pot holes and road surface defects abounding. So, where is all that money going?

    Drivers upset over toll increases in Miami-Dade County

    What may be in store is a gradual change from ANY "free" lanes to a completely tolled I-95 corridor.

    Residents of the area should be outraged. Local and State Governments already legally steal Billions from locals and out-of towners alike. Other politicians in other states are starry eyed seeing the massive revenues skimmed off of citizens and areas in NewYork, California and Georgia are also considering switching high traffic free travel lanes into toll roads. Always promising great improvements to local communities and low tolls, when in reality....the tolls, once in place are never lifted and simply are increased over time to fatten coffiers of government halls at the expense of the population with little if any input or chance for opposing argument from those affected.

    It may be time to reign in these runaway government greed grabs. But it will take a lot of involvement from citizens.
     
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    Highway robbery
     
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    Good old GOP capitalism. Ask Vice-President Pence.
     
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    I'm glad I don't live there anymore. In the 80s they were already calling the Beltway the worlds longest parking lot. But those $40 dollar tolls should really help to free up traffic.
     
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    Yet that's often enough still cheaper than the cost of one person being transported via car service from VA into D.C. (For more conventional (i.e., more cost effective to engage the service for longer periods of time) car service pricing click this sentence.) The toll is, however, more expensive than is public transportation and, depending on one's trip length, it may be comparable to a taxi or Uber ride.

    The obvious solution is to stop griping about the toll price and choose an alternative mode of transportation. After all, in the D.C. area, very few "regular people" absolutely must drive to work.

    The GOP tax plan clearly favors wealthier individuals/households. There's no reason to expect that tolls also should not. After all, rich folks pay the most taxes; thus it's primarily their money that maintain the roads, so it's only fair that toll structures favor them.
     
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    Toll roads have existed for ages. In fact, EVERY highway is a toll road as you pay for their construction, upkeep, and improvement through hidden taxes. Check out How much tax do we pay on a gallon of gasoline and diesel fuel? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

    The taxes on retail gasoline and diesel fuel, in cents per gallon, as of July 1, 2017:

    Gasoline Diesel
    Federal 18.40 24.40
    Average of state taxes 27.85 28.62
    Learn more:
    State-by-state fuel taxes
    Historical federal and state taxes are available in the Federal Highway Administration’s Highway Statistics Series. In the 2015 edition, see tables:

     
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    Seems fair to me. It just means the people using the roads pay for them instead of just making the taxpayers foot the bill for the drivers. Maybe all roads should be toll roads and taxes could go down.
     
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    The problem is the taxes never go down, it just adds to the government's slush fund.
     
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    That's probably true, but we could try.
     
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    The gov steals highway fund money.
    The more cars on the road, the more new roads needed. The more cars on the road, the more gasoline tax and registration and licensing fees accrued by government. All perfectly prorated to afford more roads, right?
    No. Government theft. Blatant government theft.
    All in metro areas so all democrats.
     
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