Told You So!!!!

[percysunshine]

Explain how "leftist" and "totalitarian" are the same thing.

No one ever claimed they were. That is why there are two separate words in the dictionary.

Good answer. You put a lot of thought into that, didn't you?

I'll rephrase it: How can a government be both "totalitarian" and "leftist" when the two philosophies are completely opposed to each other?

Evidently they figure it out somehow. Do you want to go down the list for the 20th century? We can start with Pol Pot and work our way out.

 

[Duped]

I think Bush sucked; he paved the road for an inept ideologue by his swagger - I personally don't have a problem with torture. Liberal leaders are intolerant - anyone who doesn't agree with them is demonized. Their agenda is all that matters - by any means necessary.

 

[Mojo2]

First with Prince Andrew Cuomo and his fellow communist Mayor DiBlasio of Puke York City, and now with Schooma the Looza. Democrats' true totalitarian colors are finally showing through. And as Americans awaken to the fact that Democrats' ultimate goal is permanent one party rule across the entire country, and outlawing any and all opposition to their agenda, this proves they are nothing short of Totalitarian Leftists, pure and simple. It's long past time for Conservatives to stop brownnosing Liberals in order to placate them and not to "offend" anyone. I say piss on all that! I could not give a shit who gets offended! The GOP needs to grow a nice set of solid brass balls and take the Communist Democrats head on and beat them at their own game!

Good luck with that. The president long ago, shredded the Constitution and took control. Obama, Holder...what a team.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrYUiKIZ0_Q]Barack Obama Vows to Act If Congress Won't I've Got a Pen & I've Got a Phone 1 14 14 - YouTube[/ame]

The Constitution doesn't allow the POTUS to just change laws by fiat.

He is lawless. Out of control.

Can nothing stop him???

Yes. Something can.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moLYi5nU2mw]Gohmert Reads From 'The Liberty Amendments' on the House Floor - YouTube[/ame]

 

[KNB]

I personally don't have a problem with torture.

Is torture protected under the 10th Amendment?

 

[Mojo2]

It's one that shoves government programs ( obamacare ) down the throats of it's citizens who don't want it, because it is not in their best interest.

What about torture prisons? Is that okay as long as you're shoving a gun barrel down the throats of other countries' citizens, or hooking a car battery up to their genitals? Is the GOP argument now that the Bush administration was a "totalitarian leftist" government?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Do you support abortion?

 

[Duped]

I personally don't have a problem with torture.

Is torture protected under the 10th Amendment?

That is why we have covert operations; national security is paramount. Are you finished deflecting?

 

[Wry Catcher]

First with Prince Andrew Cuomo and his fellow communist Mayor DiBlasio of Puke York City, and now with Schooma the Looza. Democrats' true totalitarian colors are finally showing through. And as Americans awaken to the fact that Democrats' ultimate goal is permanent one party rule across the entire country, and outlawing any and all opposition to their agenda, this proves they are nothing short of Totalitarian Leftists, pure and simple. It's long past time for Conservatives to stop brownnosing Liberals in order to placate them and not to "offend" anyone. I say piss on all that! I could not give a shit who gets offended! The GOP needs to grow a nice set of solid brass balls and take the Communist Democrats head on and beat them at their own game!

I know it will be hard for you to understand, but in my never ending quest to edify the ignorant I will offer this advice to you. Communism only exists in that space between your ears, it doesn't exist in the real world in the 21st Century. It was "The God that Failed".

Every First World Nation*** has a mixed economy, human nature itself creates a great a burden for unregulated capitalism and over regulated Socialism to exist and to survive. Posting RED SCARE crap the way you do puts you into the thread of the profane and the idiot fringe - exactly where you belong.

*** industrialized nations, developed countries vis a vis poor, under-developed or un-civilized or exploited countries we consider Third World.

 

[KNB]

I personally don't have a problem with torture.

Is torture protected under the 10th Amendment?

That is why we have covert operations; national security is paramount. Are you finished deflecting?

"National security is paramount." Keep those words in mind.
http://www.nps.edu/programs/ccs/Orbis2011_US-Soviet_Afghan_Compare.pdf

 

[OKTexas]

What about Bush's secret torture prisons?

If they didn't torture Americans in New York they would have nothing to do with the OP, you are aware that off topic posts are against the rules? So address your comrades in NY or just STFU.

 

[1776]

Shitstain....the Constitution isn't for FOREIGN TERRORISTS.

Do you support or oppose KILLING TERRORISTS?

Do you support abortion?

I personally don't have a problem with torture.

Is torture protected under the 10th Amendment?

 

[KNB]

The US government killed a 16-year-old American citizen only because he was the son of someone who was suspected of being a terrorist. No charges, no trial, no arrest, no questions.

The US government is spying on you, lying to you, spending trillions of your dollars to win a war that the US government itself designed 35 years ago to cost as much as possible and to never end.

But what was the point of torture? To find out who was fighting against Bush's illegal invasion? If Mexico invaded Texas because Honduras attacked North Dakota, and then started torturing Texans to find out who the insurgents were that were resisting the invasion, would you have a problem with torture then?

The point of making torture illegal so many decades ago was because if we torture their prisoners, then they will torture us. If they torture us, then it is even more important for us to not torture because THAT WOULD MAKE US JUST LIKE THEM.

 

[1776]

Sure....shitstain.

I noticed you didn't say you support killing terrorists....

The US government killed a 16-year-old American citizen only because he was the son of someone who was suspected of being a terrorist. No charges, no trial, no arrest, no questions.

The US government is spying on you, lying to you, spending trillions of your dollars to win a war that the US government itself designed 35 years ago to cost as much as possible and to never end.

But what was the point of torture? To find out who was fighting against Bush's illegal invasion? If Mexico invaded Texas because Honduras attacked North Dakota, and then started torturing Texans to find out who the insurgents were that were resisting the invasion, would you have a problem with torture then?

The point of making torture illegal so many decades ago was because if we torture their prisoners, then they will torture us. If they torture us, then it is even more important for us to not torture because THAT WOULD MAKE US JUST LIKE THEM.

 

[1776]

Terrorists should be tortured for intel purposes then killed.

Terrorists with no intel value should be killed on the spot.

See it is that simple.

So the strategy is to make scumbags think twice about becoming a....terrorist.

 

[KNB]

Who are the "terrorists"? The Mujaheddin that Carter, Reagan and the CIA trained to be terrorists?

You tell me if the 5 children handcuffed and shot by US Marines in Ishaqi in 2006 felt "terrorized" just before they died. The civilians in Fallujah who the US dropped white phosphorus on? Were they feeling terrorized? What of the hundreds of Pakistani civilians and their family members who have been killed by US drone strikes? Do they feel terrorized? Somali civilians? Yemeni? Afghani? All of the untold thousands killed during the past decade in over half a dozen countries which did not perpetrate 9/11?

Do you know what terrorism means? The Iraq invasion was US terrorism- the use of violence to enact political change. Torture is most definitely in the category of terrorism.

 

[1776]

You're an inbred piece of shit spewing lies and idiotic drivel.

The CIA trained the "Northern Alliance" which fought against UBL and the Taliban when the Soviets left, you stupid fucking inbred.

As for your lies about Iraq....burn in hell.

Who are the "terrorists"? The Mujaheddin that Carter, Reagan and the CIA trained to be terrorists?

You tell me if the 5 children handcuffed and shot by US Marines in Ishaqi in 2006 felt "terrorized" just before they died. The civilians in Fallujah who the US dropped white phosphorus on? Were they feeling terrorized? What of the hundreds of Pakistani civilians and their family members who have been killed by US drone strikes? Do they feel terrorized? Somali civilians? Yemeni? Afghani? All of the untold thousands killed during the past decade in over half a dozen countries which did not perpetrate 9/11?

Do you know what terrorism means? The Iraq invasion was US terrorism- the use of violence to enact political change. Torture is most definitely in the category of terrorism.

 

[OKTexas]

You're an inbred piece of shit spewing lies and idiotic drivel.

The CIA trained the "Northern Alliance" which fought against UBL and the Taliban when the Soviets left, you stupid fucking inbred.

As for your lies about Iraq....burn in hell.

Who are the "terrorists"? The Mujaheddin that Carter, Reagan and the CIA trained to be terrorists?

You tell me if the 5 children handcuffed and shot by US Marines in Ishaqi in 2006 felt "terrorized" just before they died. The civilians in Fallujah who the US dropped white phosphorus on? Were they feeling terrorized? What of the hundreds of Pakistani civilians and their family members who have been killed by US drone strikes? Do they feel terrorized? Somali civilians? Yemeni? Afghani? All of the untold thousands killed during the past decade in over half a dozen countries which did not perpetrate 9/11?

Do you know what terrorism means? The Iraq invasion was US terrorism- the use of violence to enact political change. Torture is most definitely in the category of terrorism.

When are you going to stop enabling this piece of crap in hijacking the thread? Ignore him.

 

[KNB]

"My" lies about Iraq? Like, "We know where the WMD are. We know where they are. They're in the area around Baghdad, and north, south, east, and west somewhat."

Oh, wait. That wasn't me. That was Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, shown here:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r42oejmpkgw]Rumsfeld shakes hands with Saddam (full video, no sound) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Did the Democrats ever try to hold the entire country hostage and nearly force the US into default, which would have destroyed the global economy for years to come? Or was that the House Republicans just a few months ago?
Insight: As U.S. default threatened, banks took extraordinary steps | Reuters

Yes... several times now.

But then the Democrats unanimously, and a handful of Progressive Republicans stripped the mortgage industry of soundly reasoned, practically tested, actuarial principle. Which produced, as nature requires it had to, the Greatest Depression, with nearly 40% of the Citizenry, not EMPLOYED!

Due PURELY to the dead weight produced by the Ideological Left, the US is on the precipice of very real, very LIKELY, collapse.

At which time, the US will explode in a free-for-all civl war, likely producing tens of millions of casualties.

 

[Synthaholic]

First with Prince Andrew Cuomo and his fellow communist Mayor DiBlasio of Puke York City, and now with Schooma the Looza. Democrats' true totalitarian colors are finally showing through. And as Americans awaken to the fact that Democrats' ultimate goal is permanent one party rule across the entire country, and outlawing any and all opposition to their agenda, this proves they are nothing short of Totalitarian Leftists, pure and simple. It's long past time for Conservatives to stop brownnosing Liberals in order to placate them and not to "offend" anyone. I say piss on all that! I could not give a shit who gets offended! The GOP needs to grow a nice set of solid brass balls and take the Communist Democrats head on and beat them at their own game!

Wingnuts didn't bitch when there was total Republican control during the 2000s.

STFU.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

First with Prince Andrew Cuomo and his fellow communist Mayor DiBlasio of Puke York City, and now with Schooma the Looza. Democrats' true totalitarian colors are finally showing through. And as Americans awaken to the fact that Democrats' ultimate goal is permanent one party rule across the entire country, and outlawing any and all opposition to their agenda, this proves they are nothing short of Totalitarian Leftists, pure and simple. It's long past time for Conservatives to stop brownnosing Liberals in order to placate them and not to "offend" anyone. I say piss on all that! I could not give a shit who gets offended! The GOP needs to grow a nice set of solid brass balls and take the Communist Democrats head on and beat them at their own game!

Wingnuts didn't bitch when there was total Republican control during the 2000s.

STFU.

Republican control?

You're speaking of the Party. Which included a large percentage of "Progressive" Republicans, with a one VOTE GOP majority in the Senate?

THAT's Funny.