Tips For Gun Rights Advocates - MHO

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  1. nodoginnafight
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    If you are looking to defend against any gun control, I would humbly suggest:

    Avoid talking points like:
    1) Guns don't kill people, people kill people. You can same the same thing about nuclear weapons, but that doesn't mean everyone should carry one around.
    2) You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers. This is the Unted States of America. If that's the way you want to play it, we can make that happen.
    3) The Second Amendment was written to give citizens the opportunity to revolt against tyrannical government. This is highly questionable legal theory, but it is public relations suicide. Saying you want to be able to wage war on the U.S. Government if they piss you off enough puts you in the same category as Al Qaida. Not smart.

    Stick to talking points like:
    1) Prohibition has never really worked in the U.S. Whether it's alcohol, pot, abortion, or guns, laws don't keep people from doing what they want to do. Gun bans will only insure that the criminals (who have already demonstrated that they won't be bound by law) are much better armed than those who seek to protect themselves from them.

    2) If you really want to save innocent children, don't go after guns, go after abortion.

    3) A kamikaze, a suicide bomber, or anyone who is hell-bent on dying and taking as many others as they can out with them is almost impossible to defend against. It would be more effective to promote mental health awareness and intervention because a twisted freak will use whatever tools they can find (and you can't outlaw ALL of them) to carry out their suicide mission.

    Certainly not an all-inclusive list so in general, I'd reccommend staying away from bumper sticker slogans and be supportive of alternatives that you think stand a better chance of being effective.

    just MHO
     
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    Bring it... show how ballsy and brave you are by being the first to come on my property after mine
     
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    a whiff of testosterone ....

    Looking to host a Waco weenie roast, huh?
     
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    And these are the people that you need to be involved in a rational discussion about guns? Ain't gonna happen.

    Irrational fears do not lead to productive conversations. And this dude is full of irrational fears. And delusional to.

    Hey hey bad boy, when you take out the trash, be sure to check EVERY WHERE FOR SNIPERS. Or do you just eat the trash?

    Fuking gun nuts can't figure out that they could be taken out without them ever getting to their guns, let alone have a chance to fire them. Kinda like SWAT teams couldn't figure out a way to get to you without knocking on your door and announcing why they came. LMAO.

    Be ever vigilant. Don't ever leave home. Prepare a fortress. Buy all the guns and ammo you can. Plus your freeze dried food. And store water. And gasoline. and etc etc.

    Gee ain't it great in fortress American. Land of the free to have any gun I want and home of the irrational fear. Just great.
     
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    Typical idiocy from the typical idiot. Another incident or two like Sandy Hook, and it could happen. And you would lose.
     
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    Really.. I have defended the constitution.. and I will defend my rights given by the constitution.. I will defend my property, and my family...

    You wanna make it happen.. like I said.. bring it.. your lefty pukes are so big and bold and brave.. kinda like the ones in a bar fight telling their friends to hold them back so they don't really get hurt....

    You talk of irrational fears, yet you are the ones going gaga over an inanimate tool
     
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    I agree... I don't think anything is coming real quick. But a couple of incidents in the next few months could make it more of a threat.

    Personally, I could live with some regulation of high capacity magazines, but I don't see even that happening right now. And if these guys are just stuck in "look how tough I am because I own a gun" mode, they could lose it.
     
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    Not impossible. You just need a well armed good guy in the vicinity. Of course, that's impossible in so called 'gun free zones'. Here's a few examples you'll never see highlighted by the mainstream media:

    FLASHBACK: Armed Woman in Colorado Saves Lives, Prevents Massacre - Katie Pavlich

    Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at Salt Lake grocery store - ABC4.com - Salt Lake City, Utah News

    Appalachian School of Law shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    And you are so stuck in "look at how tough I am standing behind a government who is playing to my irrational fears"...

    Regulations to ensure the mentally ill or those convicted of crimes do not get weapons.. yep, keep up with that.. it is a good thing and on the individual who is dangerous and has shown it... to punish the law abiding and take away their rights because of your stupid fear is outrageous...

    And as we learned in the military.. you're not tough because of your weapon.. we're tough because we actually have the will to stand up for the constitution, stand up for out country, stand up for our right, and stand in the face of tyranny and danger and defy the odds with nothing more than our commitment, courage, training, and ability...

    You get to take our second amendment right the minute you take the rest of the constitution as well... and many will strongly stand in your way with complete defiance before that ever happens
     
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    No, you cannot.
     
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