Time to close military bases?

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    Interesting take on that reading, ACLU. Seems that both parties are lining up on both sides, I fail to see what's the appeasement to the 'righties.'

    I got the feeling that if a state has military bases, they are against, and vice versa. More a question of bringing home the bacon rather than partisanship.
     
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    I'm assuming you are talking about closing U.S. military bases. I know one near New Orleans in my state is on the chopping block which will hit an already drepressed economy very hard.

    Why not close the ones located in Germany. I know they are wonderful friends of ours but the Soviet threat is gone so let their economies suffer. Also Japan which is supportive of our efforts in Iraq can afford to pay for their own defense. The same can be said for the South Koreans which their youth has the nerve to stage anti-American protests.
     
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    All this is part of is the continued alignment and consolodation of forces. As for troops in Germany in Korea......

    Germany provides a launching pad into the ME and hospitals near the battlefield in which our troops can be treated.

    The troops in Korea are there more to secure our presence in the area in regards to China than anything else.

    The troops are needed overseas to face regional threats not the old "Soviet Empire" that no longer exists.

    Some are making a mountain out of a molehill.
     
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    Amazing--- the military is a "good" thing when it happens to be based next door and the local economy can benefit from it but when it is used for the purpose it was created for people complain. It's obvious where THIER priorites lie.
     
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    >Germany provides a launching pad into the ME and hospitals near the battlefield in which our troops can be treated.<

    Couldn't this be done in the UK where we at least a little more appreciated?

    >The troops in Korea are there more to secure our presence in the area in regards to China than anything else.<

    You sure it is not to stop those nice North Koreans from pouring over the border? Also we have bases in Japan to secure our presence in regards to China.

    >The troops are needed overseas to face regional threats not the old "Soviet Empire" that no longer exists.<

    I say let those regions defend themselves and pay for it themselves. I'm tired of being Uncle Sap.

    Some are making a mountain out of a molehill.
     
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    Sure, but that would require millions (billions?) of dollars to build new facilities. We already have those facilities in place now in Germany, so why not use them? We had many times more troops in Germany in the 80's than we do now, so forces have been steadily reduced there. But the facilities are another matter.

    We don't have enough troops in Korea to stop the North is we wanted. They have always just been considered a "trip wire". Anyway, we have already announced the troops in Korea are moving into the southern part of the country and we are handing over a lot of our past responsibilities to the Koreans. Plus, we have steadily been downsizing our forces in Korea (a matter of fact, for the first time in history, we are taking troops from Korea to fight in another country [Iraq], so as you can see, we are re-organizing overseas too.

    Actually, the Koreans and Japanese do share a large burden of the costs of our troops being in those countries.

    This is not a matter of us defending them, this is a matter of the USA defending it's interests. If we did not believe it is in our interest to be there, we wouldn't be. Islamists are not just in the ME. There are millions of Muslims in China, Malaysia and Indonesia. We currently have troops "advising" in the Philippines and Thailand due to Islamist extremists in those countries. Having bases spread around the world is actually better for us when considering the overall WOT.

    As for Korea, don't watch CNN so much. I go there very, very often (a matter of fact, I am leaving this Wednesday to go to Korea, Singapore and Malaysia) and Korea is VERY friendly towards the USA Yes, you see on CNN the "protests" against America, but there have been protests in support of America too. When the Korean government asked for troops to volunteer to go to Iraq, they have an OVERWHELMING number apply. They needed 3,600 troops and over 30,000 volunteered. So don't be so quick to think that ALL Koreans don't appreciate the USA.
    Some are making a mountain out of a molehill.
     
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    Isolationism will seriously hamper the war on terrorism. Do you really want to bring all our troops home and wait for them to attack?
     
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    >Korea is VERY friendly towards the USA Yes, you see on CNN the "protests" against America, but there have been protests in support of America too. When the Korean government asked for troops to volunteer to go to Iraq, they have an OVERWHELMING number apply. They needed 3,600 troops and over 30,000 volunteered. So don't be so quick to think that ALL Koreans don't appreciate the USA.<

    That is very good to hear. I did see someplace a pro American protest in Korea. It didn't much coverage.
     
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    I shared this story before, but here it goes again:

    Not long ago I was in Korea and riding the subway from my hotel to Yongsan to see a friend of mine. Two different times while I was on the subway I had Koreans come up to me and ask if I were an American. The first time I was scared to reply as I did not know what to expect. Finally, I said, "yes" and on both occassions, the Koreans reached their hands out and said to me, "thank you".

    This is not a lie. I lived in Korea for three years and not once did that happen to me. Since the WOT has started, I have had that happend several times now.

    Part of it is that Korea has a very large and growing evangelical Christian movement and they see our WOT as being very important.
     

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