Time to Bust Up Teacher Unions

[Weatherman2020]

Colorado Teachers' Union Protest Against DeVos Turns Vulgar

A rally organized by the largest teachers union in Colorado protesting a visit by Education Secretary Betsy DeVos became vulgar as some of the demonstrators held signs depicting a hand giving a middle finger and another sign that said, "Report Card – Betsy DeVos F U."

Bust them up for the sake of the children.

 

[gallantwarrior]

What's really impressive is the fact that they have the kids out there with them, even holding the signs. No wonder young adults, the product of modern educational practices, are vulgar, undisciplined, violent hoodlums.
And, the guy in the tan shorts looks like he's wet himself... Proof that liberals are the bedwetters we've suspected?

 

[Confounding]

Big fucking deal.

 

[Pilot1]

ALL Public Sector Unions should be ILLEGAL as they are a huge conflict of interest. They bargain against the very people that pay them, and whom they are there to serve. The People, the Taxpayer. Then they use those tax dollars to solely support Democrat candidates who give them more lucrative contracts. Rinse and repeat. Total SCAM.

 

[Confounding]

They bargain against the very people that pay them

Do you think public school teachers make too much money? Where I live some of them start as low as 35k/yr after 6 years of college.

 

[Dick Foster]

Colorado Teachers' Union Protest Against DeVos Turns Vulgar

A rally organized by the largest teachers union in Colorado protesting a visit by Education Secretary Betsy DeVos became vulgar as some of the demonstrators held signs depicting a hand giving a middle finger and another sign that said, "Report Card – Betsy DeVos F U."

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Bust them up for the sake of the children.

As far as I'm concerned no one working in the public sector should be allowed to have a union. So starters, they're already represented at the polls.

 

[Dick Foster]

They bargain against the very people that pay them

Do you think public school teachers make too much money? Where I live some of them start as low as 35k/yr after 6 years of college.

Let's see now sit on their asses for a quarter of the year, free healthcare, retirement etc. etc. Lots of paid vacation time and days off. I don't see were they have it so tough.
Tell ya what, lets just do the hell away with public education since it sucks so bad and let free enterprise take over. I'm sure the good teachers will make out much better since there are so few of them while the crappy ones can flip burgers for a living. Plus after the parents are writing monthly checks for Johnny and Suzy's schooling maybe they'll suddenly give a shit that they're actually getting their money's worth for a change.

 

[Pilot1]

They bargain against the very people that pay them

Do you think public school teachers make too much money? Where I live some of them start as low as 35k/yr after 6 years of college.

That is starting pay and for nine months work, so annualized that is $47K, plus benefits, plus full pension, and full benefits for life. Not a bad gig at all, and they DO get raises, so that $35K becomes a lot more over time. Their benefits and pensions are WAY better than the Private Sector also.

 

[Confounding]

They bargain against the very people that pay them

Do you think public school teachers make too much money? Where I live some of them start as low as 35k/yr after 6 years of college.

Let's see now sit on their asses for a quarter of the year, free healthcare, retirement etc. etc. Lots of paid vacation time and days off. I don't see were they have it so tough.
Tell ya what, lets just do the hell away with public education since it sucks so bad and let free enterprise take over. I'm sure the good teachers will make out much better since there are so few of them while the crappy ones can flip burgers for a living. Plus after the parents are writing monthly checks for Johnny and Suzy's schooling maybe they'll suddenly give a shit that they're actually getting their money's worth for a change.

How many incredibly talented people choose not to be teachers because of the shitty pay? I think we should pay them a lot more, give them better conditions to work in and then raise the bar for entry.

 

[Dick Foster]

They bargain against the very people that pay them

Do you think public school teachers make too much money? Where I live some of them start as low as 35k/yr after 6 years of college.

Let's see now sit on their asses for a quarter of the year, free healthcare, retirement etc. etc. Lots of paid vacation time and days off. I don't see were they have it so tough.
Tell ya what, lets just do the hell away with public education since it sucks so bad and let free enterprise take over. I'm sure the good teachers will make out much better since there are so few of them while the crappy ones can flip burgers for a living. Plus after the parents are writing monthly checks for Johnny and Suzy's schooling maybe they'll suddenly give a shit that they're actually getting their money's worth for a change.

How many incredibly talented people choose not to be teachers because of the shitty pay? I think we should pay them a lot more, give them better conditions to work in and then raise the bar for entry.

And turning it over to private enterprise would do exactly that and more. Who knows our kids may even become literate and learn how to balance a checkbook again.

 

[gallantwarrior]

They bargain against the very people that pay them

Do you think public school teachers make too much money? Where I live some of them start as low as 35k/yr after 6 years of college.

Let's see now sit on their asses for a quarter of the year, free healthcare, retirement etc. etc. Lots of paid vacation time and days off. I don't see were they have it so tough.
Tell ya what, lets just do the hell away with public education since it sucks so bad and let free enterprise take over. I'm sure the good teachers will make out much better since there are so few of them while the crappy ones can flip burgers for a living. Plus after the parents are writing monthly checks for Johnny and Suzy's schooling maybe they'll suddenly give a shit that they're actually getting their money's worth for a change.

How many incredibly talented people choose not to be teachers because of the shitty pay? I think we should pay them a lot more, give them better conditions to work in and then raise the bar for entry.

A lot more talented people opt out of teaching more often because of the shitty working conditions, including having to make up for shitty teachers who are protected by the union instead of fired, like they should be.

 

[Crepitus]

ALL Public Sector Unions should be ILLEGAL as they are a huge conflict of interest. They bargain against the very people that pay them, and whom they are there to serve. The People, the Taxpayer. Then they use those tax dollars to solely support Democrat candidates who give them more lucrative contracts. Rinse and repeat. Total SCAM.

If we paid folks what they were worth they wouldn't need unions.

 

[Weatherman2020]

They bargain against the very people that pay them

Do you think public school teachers make too much money? Where I live some of them start as low as 35k/yr after 6 years of college.

Let's see now sit on their asses for a quarter of the year, free healthcare, retirement etc. etc. Lots of paid vacation time and days off. I don't see were they have it so tough.
Tell ya what, lets just do the hell away with public education since it sucks so bad and let free enterprise take over. I'm sure the good teachers will make out much better since there are so few of them while the crappy ones can flip burgers for a living. Plus after the parents are writing monthly checks for Johnny and Suzy's schooling maybe they'll suddenly give a shit that they're actually getting their money's worth for a change.

How many incredibly talented people choose not to be teachers because of the shitty pay? I think we should pay them a lot more, give them better conditions to work in and then raise the bar for entry.

How many incredibly talented people choose not to be teachers because of the shitty pay?

None.

 

[Confounding]

None.

Bullshit.



If we increased teacher pay and raised the barrier to entry we would get better teachers.

 

[Weatherman2020]

None.

Bullshit.

If we increased teacher pay and raised the barrier to entry we would get better teachers.

Nope.
Teachers are already overpaid.

 

[Confounding]

Nope.
Teachers are already overpaid.

Maybe you're undervaluing what teachers do and the profound impact they have on society.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Colorado Teachers' Union Protest Against DeVos Turns Vulgar

A rally organized by the largest teachers union in Colorado protesting a visit by Education Secretary Betsy DeVos became vulgar as some of the demonstrators held signs depicting a hand giving a middle finger and another sign that said, "Report Card – Betsy DeVos F U."

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[Dick Foster]

ALL Public Sector Unions should be ILLEGAL as they are a huge conflict of interest. They bargain against the very people that pay them, and whom they are there to serve. The People, the Taxpayer. Then they use those tax dollars to solely support Democrat candidates who give them more lucrative contracts. Rinse and repeat. Total SCAM.

If we paid folks what they were worth they wouldn't need unions.

Trouble is we're paying most of the assholes way more than they're worth now while the good ones get lost in the shuffle. This is exactly why socialism or any form of collectivism can never succeed. All it does is bring about medoricity and reduce standards until things deteriorate and ultimately fail and collapse altogether.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Nope.
Teachers are already overpaid.

Maybe you're undervaluing what teachers do and the profound impact they have on society.

Look, you’re acknowledging those teachers should not be teaching.

The issue is Unions keep them from being fired.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Colorado Teachers' Union Protest Against DeVos Turns Vulgar

A rally organized by the largest teachers union in Colorado protesting a visit by Education Secretary Betsy DeVos became vulgar as some of the demonstrators held signs depicting a hand giving a middle finger and another sign that said, "Report Card – Betsy DeVos F U."

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Of course it doesn’t trouble you when teachers have a minor hold up a sign filled with vulgar words, you’re a loony lefty.