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This seems to apply to current events.
there is already a thread on this in the religion forum
there is already a thread on this in the religion forum
To be fair, that thread started here.
Actually, I started in the Politics forum, where I still say it belongs.
To be fair, that thread started here.
Actually, I started in the Politics forum, where I still say it belongs.
And I think it ought to be pinned in both forums. Islam has declared WAR on the United States, and their mosques are their military and political headquarters. The fact that our ignorant, pandering, appeasing "leaders" won't acknowledge that fact doesn't alter the fact in the least.
"In compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:
"The ruling to kill the Americans and their alliescivilians and militaryis an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it . . . Wewith God's helpcall on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema [Muslim scholars], leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the Devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson." World Islamic Front, signed by Shaykh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Abu-Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, Shaykh Mir Hamzah, and Fazlul Rahman
"All the Muslims are brothers of one another and constitute one hand as against the non-Muslims. The blood of every one of them is equal to that of others and even the smallest among them can make a promise on behalf of others." Muhammad, 630 A.D.
"The Believers are but a single brotherhood." Quran 49:10
"A Muslim has no nationality except his belief." Syed Qutb
"Mehrab [mosque] means the place of war, the place of fighting. Out of the mehrabs, wars should proceed. Just as all the wars of Islam proceeded out of the mehrabs. The prophet had sword to kill people. Our Holy Imams were quite militant. All of them were warriors. They used to wield swords. They used to kill people. We need a Caliph who would chop hands, cut throats, stone people. In the same way that the messenger of Allah used to chop hands, cut throats, and stone people." Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini
"When you are called (by the Muslim ruler) for fighting, go forth immediately." Hadith Sahih Bukhari 4:52:79:Narrated Ibn 'Abbas
Unless and until we win war that has been unilaterally declared on us, it has everything to do with politics and all related current events.
How about we find an Imam who will issue a counter-fatwa, along the lines of ...
"...and all Muslims are directed to live in peace with all non-Muslims, until such time that Allah himself directs non-Muslims etc., etc., ...."
How about we find an Imam who will issue a counter-fatwa, along the lines of ...
"...and all Muslims are directed to live in peace with all non-Muslims, until such time that Allah himself directs non-Muslims etc., etc., ...."
Awwwwww. That's so sweeeeeet!
The only teeny-weeny problem I see with your cute little idea, Princess, is that Allah already issued the orders:
"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him." Quran 3:85
"I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.'" Hadith Sahih Bukhari 4:52:196 Narrated Abu Huraira
"He who fights so that Allah's Word (Islam) should be superior, then he fights in Allah's cause." Hadith Sahih Bukhari 1125 Narrated Abu Musa
"I asked the Prophet [Muhammad], 'What is the best deed?' He replied, 'To believe in Allah and to fight for His Cause.'" Hadith Sahih Bukhari 3:46:694 Narrated Abu Dhar
"And fight them till there is no more affliction (i.e. no more worshiping of others along with Allah)". Hadith Sahih Bukhari 6:60:40 Narrated Nafi'
"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers." Quran 3.151
"I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." Quran 8:12
"Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know." Quran 8:60
"O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them." Quran 5:51
"Fight and slay the Unbelievers wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)" Quran 9:5
"Islam wishes to destroy all states and governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and program of Islam regardless of the country or the nation which rules it. The purpose of Islam is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and program." Syed Abul A'ala Maududi
"All the Muslims are brothers of one another and constitute one hand as against the non-Muslims. The blood of every one of them is equal to that of others and even the smallest among them can make a promise on behalf of others." Muhammad, 630 A.D.
"The Believers are but a single brotherhood." Quran 49:10
"A Muslim has no nationality except his belief." Syed Qutb
"In compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:
"The ruling to kill the Americans and their alliescivilians and militaryis an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it . . . Wewith God's helpcall on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema [Muslim scholars], leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the Devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson." World Islamic Front, signed by Shaykh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Abu-Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, Shaykh Mir Hamzah, and Fazlul Rahman
"When you are called (by the Muslim ruler) for fighting, go forth immediately." Hadith Sahih Bukhari 4:52:79:Narrated Ibn 'Abbas
"Mehrab [mosque] means the place of war, the place of fighting. Out of the mehrabs, wars should proceed. Just as all the wars of Islam proceeded out of the mehrabs. The prophet had sword to kill people. Our Holy Imams were quite militant. All of them were warriors. They used to wield swords. They used to kill people. We need a Caliph who would chop hands, cut throats, stone people. In the same way that the messenger of Allah used to chop hands, cut throats, and stone people." Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini
Darn. I mean, other than that, you had a really, really, really cool idea. Now you can go shopping at the mall.
So, to reprise:
"...or, do we have to kill all the Muslims?
I have to know immediately, 'cause thems a lot of Muslims to kill... "
Well, speak up. I'm sure your have a plan, don't you?
So, to reprise:
"...or, do we have to kill all the Muslims?
I have to know immediately, 'cause thems a lot of Muslims to kill... "
Well, speak up. I'm sure your have a plan, don't you?
I don't generally consider questions couched in such scandalous hyperbole to be serious attempts at a rational discussion, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Once.
As for "having a plan," I don't feel any personal obligation to come up with a unified plan for effectively answering a declaration of war on the United States and the Constitution. I haven't even run, much less been elected.
In the far smaller sphere that I can realistically influence though, I'm doing everything I can to inform people, and to lift the discussion out of the mire of Muslim Brotherhood propagandathe most vicious of which is that there are two different Islams, one "moderate, peaceful" and one "radical, extremist, fundamentalist," and other apologist bullshit.
It's a vicious fiction, and, funded by Saudi money, this poison has absolutely flooded the groundwater of knowledge and discussion. Nobody in the lamestream media can even mention Islam or Muslims without sticking one of the apologist propaganda adjectives in front of it, and every time it's done it's a lie. Every office and official at every level of our own government is propagating this fairy taleon your dime. You cannot go into any thread about Islam anywhere in this or any other forum without running into this perverse mythology being used like a club to slam people over the head.
It utterly defeats any rational and realistic discussion of the facts at issue, because facts get fried in the heat generated by the raging conflict between these completely false and fictional dichotomies. That's the exact intention of having them. It is a textbook propaganda tool, and it was dreamed up by the Muslim Brotherhood with malice aforethoughtalong with other of their memes, like "bridge-building."
So that's my small part: trying in every way I can to supply facts, from the source documents, that prove the falsity of that propaganda tool. There is only one Islam. It has one goal: complete world domination, and complete eradication of all religions, all governments, to be replaced by an Islamic theocracy and Sharia law. That's the way it is. Believing in some fairy tale that there is some other "Islam" that's all peace and light and love and moderation is suicidal.
Islam has declared war on us. The faster we all come to grips with that fact, and force our officials to face it and admit it, the faster we as a nation actually can forge a realistic and effective plan for self-preservation.
What's your plan?
That's like saying:This seems to apply to current events.
It certainly does, and it's an excellent video that blows away the smoke of Islamic propaganda. I think it deserves to be pinned here, but it'll probably get moved in 3 - 2 - 1...
So, to reprise:
"...or, do we have to kill all the Muslims?
I have to know immediately, 'cause thems a lot of Muslims to kill... "
Well, speak up. I'm sure your have a plan, don't you?
I don't generally consider questions couched in such scandalous hyperbole to be serious attempts at a rational discussion, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Once.
As for "having a plan," I don't feel any personal obligation to come up with a unified plan for effectively answering a declaration of war on the United States and the Constitution. I haven't even run, much less been elected.
In the far smaller sphere that I can realistically influence though, I'm doing everything I can to inform people, and to lift the discussion out of the mire of Muslim Brotherhood propaganda—the most vicious of which is that there are two different Islams, one "moderate, peaceful" and one "radical, extremist, fundamentalist," and other apologist bullshit.
It's a vicious fiction, and, funded by Saudi money, this poison has absolutely flooded the groundwater of knowledge and discussion. Nobody in the lamestream media can even mention Islam or Muslims without sticking one of the apologist propaganda adjectives in front of it, and every time it's done it's a lie. Every office and official at every level of our own government is propagating this fairy tale—on your dime. You cannot go into any thread about Islam anywhere in this or any other forum without running into this perverse mythology being used like a club to slam people over the head.
It utterly defeats any rational and realistic discussion of the facts at issue, because facts get fried in the heat generated by the raging conflict between these completely false and fictional dichotomies. That's the exact intention of having them. It is a textbook propaganda tool, and it was dreamed up by the Muslim Brotherhood with malice aforethought—along with other of their memes, like "bridge-building."
So that's my small part: trying in every way I can to supply facts, from the source documents, that prove the falsity of that propaganda tool. There is only one Islam. It has one goal: complete world domination, and complete eradication of all religions, all governments, to be replaced by an Islamic theocracy and Sharia law. That's the way it is. Believing in some fairy tale that there is some other "Islam" that's all peace and light and love and moderation is suicidal.
Islam has declared war on us. The faster we all come to grips with that fact, and force our officials to face it and admit it, the faster we as a nation actually can forge a realistic and effective plan for self-preservation.
What's your plan?
Oops...forgot my manners! Welcome to the board.
Now, let's get down to business.
1. I always appreciate folks who spend the time and effort to put together a well written post. As you have.
2. Unfortuately, it brings nothing new to the table. The essence of your post is more cathartic than revelatory. I assume that this is due to your recent arrival here at USMB, as most of the post has found its way to the board before.
a. Outside of our members of the Muslim persuasion, and a few who are purposefully argumentative, there is nothing that any would dispute.
3. Your post would be far more successful if you were to outline a plan...
taking into consideration the cultural and judicial parameters within which we live in America...including:
a. The rights of Muslim citizens
b. The seductive nature of our culture
c. How your plan aligns with foreign, as well as domestic policies.
I could post three videos almost identical to the one in the original post regarding the Talmud from the anti-zionist crowd..
I'd settle for just one.
I could post three videos almost identical to the one in the original post regarding the Talmud from the anti-zionist crowd..
I'd settle for just one.