Those favoring Taiwan, etc. health systems.. are you

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    aware that
    NO HIPAA in Taiwan,Canadian,et.al....... YEA!!!
    NO Law suits in in these so-called "national health systems".... YEA!!
    In the USA $600 billion a year totally agreed by 90% of physicians spent out of FEAR of lawsuits.. again something they don't fear in TAIWAN, etc.

    Taiwan, etc. WOULD NOT allow any hospital to send a claim with 6,000% markup as
    happens to Medicare today and Medicare AGREES it is OK!

    So in those 4 areas alone.. IF THEY weren't in the USA..
    Health care costs would drop $1 trillion a year!
    Everyone could afford then health insurance!

    BUT of course people favoring nationalized health systems NEVER MENTION that those COST don't exist in Taiwan,Canadian,et.al. systems!
     
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    So is this an endorsement from you of the Taiwan and Canadian healthcare systems?
     
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    Of course idiots like you totally ignore the realities of American health system.. THEN make stupid comments like how good those systems are!
    Of course you obviously haven't thought and obviously realize that
    A) Govt. intervention gave us HIPAA and since you are so stupid you don't know how much it has cost our health system implementing this GOVT. "HELP"!!
    B) Obviously you want the $100 billion a year in legal fees lawyers to continue to fund these millionaires and thereby FORCE which doesn't occur under nationalized health $600 billion in duplicate tests, specialist referrals ALL out of fear of being SUED!
    C) You obviously Don't know how hospitals bill Medicare and Medicare accepts cause Medicare just passes on these 6,000% markups! NONE of which you took in consideration when you stupidly support Taiwan, et.al. health systems!

    All of those above are NOT allowed and if they were not allowed in USA wouldn't NEED to discuss "national health system" which again someone as ignorant of health care finance as you obviously are!
     
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    So is that a yes?
     
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    More tests ordered = more profit for doctors and hospitals

    I'm sure that has nothing to do with it, though, doctors are immune from profit motive, right? Its only those sleaze bag attorneys that want to make money.
     
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    How does additional tests put more pay in the doctors pocket?

    He gets paid for the office visit not for administering or ordering a test.......
     
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    AH... it is a NATIONAL conspiracy of the physicians... THAT "KNOW" wink..wink.. that they will refer to a buddy doc.. etc... WRONG...
    The idiot that said that OBVIOUSLY is totally ignorant of the STARK LAW!

    Again as you point out IT IS NOT fees but FEAR of having to spend time with lawyers, testify in deputizations, be in court possibly all adding up to this study:

    If 1,231 physicians...(90%) Ninety percent of physicians surveyed said
    "doctors overtest and overtreat to protect themselves from malpractice lawsuits.
    "Defensive medicine is when doctors order multiple tests, MRIs and other procedures, not because the patient needs them, but to protect against litigation based on allegations that something should have been done but wasnÂ’t. according to the survey published Monday in Archives of Internal Medicine.
    Besides more time-consuming appointments, patients are left with fewer services and less access to quality care as doctors either narrow their practices or leave the profession entirely."
    http://www.sfexaminer.com/opinion/Examiner-editorial-Obama-wont-take-on-trial-lawyers-in-speech-57953202.html
     
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    That's not even true. YOU may only pay out of your pocket for the visit, but the doctor will bill your insurance company for every service performed - including lab tests. Are you seriously this ignorant? This issue is actually at the center of the debate over why health care costs so much here. You honestly think the insurance company pays the doctor the same amount regardless of whether he orders blood work,. an X-Ray, or performs an MRI? That's laugable, naive, and sad that you would think that. But then again, most folks who have insurance don't even think twice about what's actually being billed to their insurance company.
     
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    I just went to the doctors for tests, now tell me about my bill, you know so much...........
     

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