This week in temps

89 percent of the stations fail to meet the National Weather Service’s own siting requirements that stations must be 30 metres away from an artificial heating or radiating/reflecting heat source. (Watts 2009)
-- Are surface temperature records reliable?

The Watts 2009 citation references this: The Heartland Institute: Is the U.S. Surface Temperature Record Reliable?

Garbage in, garbage out.

Or, when you cook the data, you can come up with "support" for any silly proposition.

:lol::lol::lol: The Heartland Institute???
 
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In the 1990s, the Heartland Institute worked with the tobacco company Philip Morris to question the science linking secondhand smoke to health risks, and to lobby against government public health reforms.
 
It remains unseasonably cold in Oregon this week.

November and February have been colder than normal.
December and January were normal.
the weather remains as changeable as the weather.
 
89 percent of the stations fail to meet the National Weather Service’s own siting requirements that stations must be 30 metres away from an artificial heating or radiating/reflecting heat source. (Watts 2009)
-- Are surface temperature records reliable?

The Watts 2009 citation references this: The Heartland Institute: Is the U.S. Surface Temperature Record Reliable?

Garbage in, garbage out.

Or, when you cook the data, you can come up with "support" for any silly proposition.

:lol::lol::lol: The Heartland Institute???

Yep.

Attacking the messenger is hardly a valid form of argumentation, dipshit.

Even if we accept your jaundiced, little, petty view that the Heartland Institute is somehow "suspect" in itself, that does not (standing alone) invalidate what they discovered regarding the fact that the stations don't even meet the "standards' of the National Weather Service. That is a reported factual claim. It is either true or it isn't.

So, you might as well stop pretending that your issue with the Heartland Institute answers (or even addresses) the real question. It doesn't.
 
-- Are surface temperature records reliable?

The Watts 2009 citation references this: The Heartland Institute: Is the U.S. Surface Temperature Record Reliable?

Garbage in, garbage out.

Or, when you cook the data, you can come up with "support" for any silly proposition.

:lol::lol::lol: The Heartland Institute???

Yep.

Attacking the messenger is hardly a valid form of argumentation, dipshit.

Even if we accept your jaundiced, little, petty view that the Heartland Institute is somehow "suspect" in itself, that does not (standing alone) invalidate what they discovered regarding the fact that the stations don't even meet the "standards' of the National Weather Service. That is a reported factual claim. It is either true or it isn't.

So, you might as well stop pretending that your issue with the Heartland Institute answers (or even addresses) the real question. It doesn't.

Yes, I always believe "institutes" that partner up with tobacco companies.
 
:lol::lol::lol: The Heartland Institute???

Yep.

Attacking the messenger is hardly a valid form of argumentation, dipshit.

Even if we accept your jaundiced, little, petty view that the Heartland Institute is somehow "suspect" in itself, that does not (standing alone) invalidate what they discovered regarding the fact that the stations don't even meet the "standards' of the National Weather Service. That is a reported factual claim. It is either true or it isn't.

So, you might as well stop pretending that your issue with the Heartland Institute answers (or even addresses) the real question. It doesn't.

Yes, I always believe "institutes" that partner up with tobacco companies.

so if the institute that aligns itself with the tobacco company says 2+2 is 4, it's not four, right fuckstain?
 
Yep.

Attacking the messenger is hardly a valid form of argumentation, dipshit.

Even if we accept your jaundiced, little, petty view that the Heartland Institute is somehow "suspect" in itself, that does not (standing alone) invalidate what they discovered regarding the fact that the stations don't even meet the "standards' of the National Weather Service. That is a reported factual claim. It is either true or it isn't.

So, you might as well stop pretending that your issue with the Heartland Institute answers (or even addresses) the real question. It doesn't.

Yes, I always believe "institutes" that partner up with tobacco companies.

so if the institute that aligns itself with the tobacco company says 2+2 is 4, it's not four, right fuckstain?

Chris is far too dogmatic and stupid to even understand how you just annihilated his ridiculous "position" so concisely.
 
89 percent of the stations fail to meet the National Weather Service’s own siting requirements that stations must be 30 metres away from an artificial heating or radiating/reflecting heat source. (Watts 2009)
-- Are surface temperature records reliable?

The Watts 2009 citation references this: The Heartland Institute: Is the U.S. Surface Temperature Record Reliable?

Garbage in, garbage out.

Or, when you cook the data, you can come up with "support" for any silly proposition.

The data of the UAH tracks that of the surface stations very well. And the UAH data is derived from satellites.

Quoting anything that Anthony Watts says is akin to checking a broken clock. It will be right twice a day. Watts is an undegreed ex-TV weatherman with a penchant for lying. And the Heartland Institute will say whatever it is paid to say by the energy corperations, same as it does for the tobacco corperations.
 
When it snows, heavily, the blanket of snow around the house is picturesque. But no matter how well insulated a home may be, if it is an actual dwelling, chances are the residents turn on the heat to stay warm, and some of that heat escapes.

This is why -- often -- if you look at houses in a residential neighborhood, even when there's still plenty of snow on the lawns, the area right around the perimeter of the houses themselves have far less snow or no snow at all.

Place a thermometer far enough away from the house in a properly shaded and ventilated recording station, and you will get a pretty good reading of the actual air temperature. But place that same thermometer in the same ventilated and shaded recording station but inside the perimeter immediately surrounding the house where there is observable snow melt, and the temperature is likely to read higher.

As in real estate, so too in weather observation sites, location matters.
 
It remains unseasonably cold in Oregon this week.

November and February have been colder than normal.
December and January were normal.
the weather remains as changeable as the weather.

Incorect

November, yes slightly by -0.9
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/getclimate.php?wfo=pqr


December, no above normal by +2.4
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/getclimate.php?wfo=pqr

January , no above normal by +1.4
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/getclimate.php?wfo=pqr

And projecting for Feb, lol, months not over yet.

Snow pack now up to 80-85% of normal...in the Northern Cascades.
 
It remains unseasonably cold in Oregon this week.

November and February have been colder than normal.
December and January were normal.
the weather remains as changeable as the weather.

Incorect

November, yes slightly by -0.9
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/getclimate.php?wfo=pqr


December, no above normal by +2.4
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/getclimate.php?wfo=pqr

January , no above normal by +1.4
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/getclimate.php?wfo=pqr

And projecting for Feb, lol, months not over yet.

Snow pack now up to 80-85% of normal...in the Northern Cascades.




And overall the Sierras are 118 percent above normal for the this time of the year. that however does not count the most recent snowstorm. I got 4 feet of new snow on my property.
 
Record Events for Fri Feb 18, 2011 through Thu Feb 24, 2011

High Temperatures: 757
Low Temperatures: 129
 
Following another extended stretch of sub-zero temperatures, ice coverage on the Baltic Sea is greater than it's been in nearly a quarter century, Sweden's meteorological agency reports.


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About 250,000 square kilometres of the Baltic Sea are now covered in ice according to the Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute (SMHI).

The last time so much of the Baltic was frozen was the winter of 1986-87, when ice covered nearly 400,000 square kilometres of the sea's surface.

SMHI warns that ice coverage on the Baltic could expand further in the coming days, possibly setting a new record.

"The surface water is cold and if winter-like temperatures continue in the region a few more weeks, we'll probably get an icy winter on par with 1984-85, one of the toughest winters in the 1980s," SMHI oceanographer Amund E. B. Lindberg said in a statement.

According to SMHI's estimates, ice may eventually connect the Swedish mainland all the way out to the Baltic island of Gotland, which lies about 90 kilometres off of Sweden's eastern coast.

Baltic ice cover is not only unusually wide this winter, but also unusually thick, especially in Gulf of Bothnia off Sweden's northeastern coast, where air temperatures have consistently hovered around -30 degrees Celsius in recent months.

In some areas far out at sea, ice is more than 60 centimetres thick in the northern parts of the gulf.

Recent cold temperatures near the southern areas of the Gulf of Bothnia have resulted in ice thickness growing by 30 centimetres in just two weeks.




Deep freeze puts Baltic on track for record ice - The Local
 
Latest Round Of Snow May Set Record
February 25, 2011 5:33 AM

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Yet another round of snow hit the Chicago area Friday morning. (Credit: CBS)

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UPDATED 02/25/11 8:54 a.m.

CHICAGO (CBS) – A brief snowstorm swooped into the area early Friday, putting Chicago within a fraction of an inch of the snowiest February ever.

The National Weather Service measured 0.4 inch of snow at O’Hare–and with more snow expected tonight, the more than 100-year-old record could fall this weekend.









Latest Round Of Snow May Set Record « CBS Chicago
 

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