This is why profiling is wrong

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    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20040326-9999-news_7m26wrong.html

    By Shannon Tangonan
    UNION-TRIBUNE UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

    March 26, 2004

    CARLSBAD – Dina Dagy admits her family could do better when it comes to conserving energy.

    Her children don't always shut off the computers when they're done. The family of five leaves its outside lights on so that their runaway boxer might find its way home. And it's not uncommon for them to do two or three loads of laundry each day.

    But it never occurred to Beryl and Dina Dagy that their high electric bills – which run from $200 to $300 a month – would cause them problems with the law.

    The Dagys' home was one of 25 raided Friday as part of a six-month investigation into a countywide ring that was growing marijuana inside rental homes. Homes were targeted largely based on unusually high utility bills, which often result from the 24-hour use of grow lights, according to court records.

    No pot was found in the Dagys' home.
     
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    What's the big dealio?

    She fit a profile. They checked it out. No harm done, right?
     
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    well I'm sure you won't mind a drug raid because you've got a high utility bill one month, or you have a habit of procrastination when it comes to taking out the trash.

    you see no harm done? I see how the neighbors all gathered round on the street to see and speculate about why the DEA is surrounding the house because of some 'confidential but reliable source'.

    It's absolutely ridiculous how some people have no sense of what liberty and freedom is about anymore.
     
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    She fit some criteria....what if she HAD been growing pot?

    What if Officials had 'profiled' the 911 Terrorist, on, say, about the 9th of September?


    Law enforcement - The Man - gets bitched at by people...no matter WHAT they do.

    They are damned if they DO, and are mistaken, yet people want to string them up, if the DON'T act, but were correct.


    :-/

    It's about people. Making their BEST GUESSES about crime. And acting on it.

    This lady wasn't harmed.
     
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    when you use 'confidential informants', and god knows what it is he told them, to subpeona utility records or base it on when someones garbage gets taken out...

    Hell I'm surprised I'm not drug raided 3 times a year then since I never turn my PC's off.


    We can do the what if's all we like but if we, as americans, are so afraid of the boogeyman then I propose that we use all our budget dollars, hire an extra 5 millions homeland security agents and have weekly inspections in our homes.

    Maybe a random body cavity search as well. :rolleyes:

    her and her family may not have been harmed physically, but people are stupid, panicky animals and are EXTREMELY prone to rumor mill shit. How many years do you think they will have to live with the stigma and suspicion of having a drug raid performed on their home?
     
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    C'mon now...don't spin.


    They used THREE TO FOUR TIMES the electricty of other neighbors...

    A DRUG-SNIFFING DOG showed interest...

    They had Trash Behaviour SIMILAR to what known druggies do...

    Seriously. The Cops, AND other city officials found PROBABLE CAUSE...to inspect. One saving grace is when the cops called the guy, instead of breaking doors down.

    How can you fault PROFESSIONALS for making an educated guess that the people are committing a crime? The cops were wrong, and apologized.

    The 'People' got their feelings hurt. Boo-F'ing-Hoo. Maybe they hid their pot well enough so the cops didn't find it. :)
     
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    I think the real moral of this story is:

    "Legalize it"
     
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    while I did exagerate this a bit more for dramatics, the point I was trying to make is that its too easy for the government to invade your private property and lives.

    Yes, in this instance, they were polite enough to call and for that I'll give their props, but to be able to pick up a warrant based on a confidential source, a high utility bill, and a pattern of taking the garbage out in the morning is taking it too far, in my opinion.
     
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