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  1. bigdaddygtr
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    you deal with a region of the world that has been fighting for 1300 years. You don't walk in with so much Cowboy arrogance and start dictating terms like some people here want to, you respect what is not your and you take a strong, yet respectful, diplomatic approach to a region that ISNT YOURS!

    And yep, already know what some of the righties are gonna say, "you don't talk to terrorists, you're such a pussy, they should do what we tell them, etc etc."

    By the way, how's that approached worked out for us???


    'Americans are not your enemy,' Obama tells Muslims - CNN.com
     
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    After 9-11 I liked the cowboy's approach. Maybe after the next attack you will wake the hell up, that's a big maybe cause I doubt it seriously. DUmmie
     
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    Lycurgus Who is Obama, really...??

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    Oh my, this kind of stuff kills me. They act as if Obama is the first one to say this and/or try this. It didn't work for the others and it is not going to work now. There first has to be a willingness to heal the problems in that 'region' before it will happen. It has to come from within the region first.

    I wish Obama the most success with his efforts and I hope that for some reason fractions do choose to listen to him, but history tells us to not get too excited.
     
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    Please go and negotiate with the Taliban for us and best of luck.
     
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    Had the 'cowboy' done a real approach and gotten Bin Laden, another attack would be far less likely.
     
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    we worked with them ok when we were playing our little proxy thing with the soviets.

    Seriously? Part of me agrees with you. But part of me thinks they have a price.... the question is, what is the price?
     
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    Talking points. Talking points. Here's another one. They tried to give BinLaden to Clinton on a silver platter. He turned them down! Hello!
     
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    Good point--as far as I know they never ask for anything but to be left alone but they refuse to reciprocate.
     
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    Let's see, let me see if I understand this... the middle east has been fighting and killing each other for a couple thousand years, but you say DO NOT go in and fight them as they fight. We should walk in under the assumption that if we TALK to them, they'll just all lay down their arms, give us a group huge and start singing Kumbaya.... when FIGHTING is all they understand... OK... you want to tell me again HOW that's going to work? :cuckoo:
     
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    America cannot fix this.

    Until both sets of people of that region grow weary of their continuous war, the war will continue.

    Does Isreal have a right to exist?

    Hell yes, they fought for that right and they won it.

    Does Palestine have the right to exist?

    They do as long as they keep fighting for it.

    And after 50 years, it looks like they're not going to quit either.

    One of the things BOTH PEOPLE have to recognize is that the OTHER GROUP has its back to the wall, just as they do.

    NEITHER can just give up.

    So until they both recognize that they are both facing an intractable people with no alternative but to fight for their right to exist, neither of those peoples are going to find peace.

    We can argue about the morality of this. We can delve into history if we choose to decide which people got screwed worse or first or whatever...but that's basically no longer relevant to the issue.

    The issue is that both people have the right to exist and neither people can simply abandon the field because THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO GO.
     

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