Thermite is NOT an explosive.

[manu1959]

no one is arguing the point retarded gunnery Sgt...in fact that is the whole point

but you have claimed there were large explosions prior to the planes hitting the wtc....

so which is it....

 

[eots]

no one is arguing the point retarded gunnery Sgt...in fact that is the whole point

but you have claimed there were large explosions prior to the planes hitting the wtc....

so which is it....

it has been clearly stated that thermite was used to cut the main columns with combined secondary explosives ...NISTs way of discounting the explosions reported by saying the decibel levels required to take out the core columns would have been louder than the ones recorded..this is why...and I don't claim explosions first responders and eye witnesses claim..so don't pretend

 

[eots]

1)Your latest definition exclusive thermite, which if fairly stable (hard to ignite) and not not burn rapidly at all or expand significantly (as gunpowder does when it burns)

and the correct answer is 'no'- gasoline is not flammable

Read up on thermite grenades, which melt materials without any real explosion the lies of which you get with even black powder (possibly the crudest of explosives still in use)

An explosive material is a material that either is chemically or otherwise energetically unstable or produces a sudden expansion of the material ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive

its pretty simple...it is not a matter of opinion...thermite is listed as an explosive along with gas and gunpowder...this is not my opinion...and if you think gas is not flamable I wont want to be anywhere near you a flame and some gas...it is about the stupidist thing I have ever heard

Q ..Is gasoline flammable?
In: Rhetorical Questions, Biochemistry
A..Yes.

WikiAnswers - Is gasoline flammable

END OF STORY


Gasoline is a flammable liquid as defined by the Department of Transportation in 49 CFR. A flammable liquid is a liquid having a flash point below 141 degrees Fahrenheit. The flash point is the minimum temperature of a liquid where it will give off sufficient vapors to form an ignitable mixture in air. The flash point of gasoline (depending on grade) is about -44 degrees F. An explosive functions either by detonation (rate of decomposition faster than the speed of sound) or deflagration (very rapid burning).


MSHA - Code of Federal Regulations - 30 CFR 56.2

 

[JBeukema]

Q ..Is gasoline flammable?
In: Rhetorical Questions, Biochemistry
A..Yes.

spend some time around mechanics who use gasoline to cllean their tools, put their cigarettes out in it, ans smoke around it...

Gasoline is not flammable, the fumes it releases do. The liquid itself does not burn. Once again, you fail

 

[eots]

Q ..Is gasoline flammable?
In: Rhetorical Questions, Biochemistry
A..Yes.

spend some time around mechanics who use gasoline to cllean their tools, put their cigarettes out in it, ans smoke around it...

Gasoline is not flammable, the fumes it releases do. The liquid itself does not burn. Once again, you fail

man are you ever stupid..can you not read the definition of a flammable liquid ..I realize that gas fumes are more volatile than gasoline but gasoline by definition is a flammable liquid its not open for debate...



Gasoline is a flammable liquid as defined by the Department of Transportation in 49 CFR. A flammable liquid is a liquid having a flash point below 141 degrees Fahrenheit. The flash point is the minimum temperature of a liquid where it will give off sufficient vapors to form an ignitable mixture in air. The flash point of gasoline (depending on grade) is about -44 degrees F. An explosive functions either by detonation (rate of decomposition faster than the speed of sound) or deflagration (very rapid burning).


MSHA - Code of Federal Regulations - 30 CFR 56.2

 

[JBeukema]

It's simply not factually accurate. Once all the fumes have left gasoline, can can hold a torch to it and it will not burn

this is why it has to be kept in closed containers (that allow venting) 'stale' petrol/gasoline simply is not flammable. Science cares not what the gov't has to say

 

[eots]

Generally, a flammable liquid means a liquid which may catch fire easily.

In the USA, there is a precise definition of flammable liquid as one with a flashpoint below 100 degrees Fahrenheit. Less-flammable liquids (with a flashpoint between 100 degrees and 200 degrees Fahrenheit) are defined as combustible liquids. This definition is used by the National Fire Protection Association, The US Department of Transportation, the US Environmental Protection Agency, the US Occupational Safety and Health Administration and others.

These categories are further subdivided, depending on the liquid's flash point and boiling point.

Class IA flammable liquids have a flash point below 73 °F and a boiling point below 100 °F
Class IB flammable liquids have a flash point below 73 °F and a boiling point greater than or equal to 100 °F
Class IC flammable liquids have a flash point greater than or equal to 73 °F and below 100 °F
Class II combustible liquids have a flash point greater than or equal to 100 °F and below 140 °F
Class IIIA combustible liquids have a flash point greater than or equal to 140 °F and below 200 °F
Class IIIB combustible liquids have a flash point greater than or equal to 200 °F

GCSE SCIENCE CHEMISTRY HIGH SCHOOL - Solid - Liquid - Gas - Melting - Freezing - Boiling - Condensing - Subliming - Interconverting - Melt - Freeze - Boil - Condense - gcsescience.com.



thermite is an explosive..gasoline is a flammable liquid...these are how the terms are being used.. in relation to that which RGS is disputing
the fact that you can boil gas is irrelevant in this context...once all the oxygen was removed..in what..a vacuum.?... then flame would not be possible either

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Your whole argument depends on the impossible. Once again for the slow and stupid. Thermite does not EXPLODE, it does not make a sound like exploding. It does not travel horizontally, it Burns straight down via gravity. It does not expand it ignites, creating a very hot flame that eats through metal VERTICALLY.

NO ONE could CUT horizontally a girder or support with Thermite. IT CAN NOT HAPPEN. It would be pointless to place thermite around a girder in order to cut said girder , all the thermite would do is ignite and burn straight down.

Your entire argument depends on thermite doing the impossible. If they set of thermite it would not make any explosive sounds and it would not cut vertical girders.

Also for your supposed explosions heard before the building collapsed or before the jets hit or what ever your claim is, Anyone in the basement would not have gotten out if they heard explosives bringing the building down. Because the building would come down in seconds. And there would be no point in setting off explosives if not to bring the building down right then. The sequences is not staged that way, all explosives go off almost at the same time. With the building collapsing with the explosions.

Of course with fires raging out of control one would hear explosive sounds as portions of floors with items that might explode were engulfed. Further as supports failed and floors collapsed one would also hear explosive sounds as upper floors dropped onto lower floors.

THERMITE DOES NOT EXPLODE. It is incapable of cutting vertical girders.

 

[JBeukema]

the fact that you can boil gas is irrelevant in this context...once all the oxygen was removed..in what..a vacuum.?... then flame would not be possible either

Put some gasoline in a bucket. Wait until it stops 'shimmering' above the bucket (stirring occasionally)


Now, throw a match at it

the liquid (the gasoline proper) DOES NOT BURN, only the fumes do. Once the petrol ceases releasing fumes, it is safe

 

[JBeukema]

NO ONE could CUT horizontally a girder or support with Thermite. IT CAN NOT HAPPEN. It would be pointless to place thermite around a girder in order to cut said girder , all the thermite would do is ignite and burn straight down.

Your entire argument depends on thermite doing the impossible. If they set of thermite it would not make any explosive sounds and it would not cut vertical girders.

That's what detcord is for...

Also for your supposed explosions heard before the building collapsed or before the jets hit or what ever your claim is, Anyone in the basement would not have gotten out if they heard explosives bringing the building down. Because the building would come down in seconds.

an explosion in the basement did not ring it down the last time, in (1993?)

THERMITE DOES NOT EXPLODE. It is incapable of cutting vertical girders.

why doesn't he make some and try it?


Now, I still have questions regarding 'quibs' and building 7... and a few other things

 

[JBeukema]

Thermite = incendiary

 

[DiveCon]

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they used a half ton of thermite

 

[eots]

in·cen·di·ar·y (ĭn-sěn'dē-ěr'&#275
adj.

Causing or capable of causing fire.
Of or containing chemicals that produce intense hot fire when exploded: an incendiary bomb.


incendiary definition | Dictionary.com

 

[eots]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn-MCCZ3O1M[/ame]

 

[eots]

SQUIBS

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-JLcEuu4Y[/ame]

 

[JBeukema]

in·cen·di·ar·y (ĭn-sěn'dē-ěr'&#275
adj.

Causing or capable of causing fire.
Of or containing chemicals that produce intense hot fire when exploded: an incendiary bomb.


incendiary definition | Dictionary.com

Notice he cites the adjective, not the noun we are discussing

eots, you fail so hard... just revise your damned model like any logical scientific mind

 

[eots]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul3Eia4jPCM[/ame]

 

[DiveCon]

SQUIBS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-JLcEuu4Y

sorry, another fail
an explosive squib would have taken out more than just ONE WINDOW
and
please explain how they would be able to time the explosions to start AFTER the beginning of the collapse when in controlled demolitions the squibs come BEFORE the start of the collapse

 

[eots]

SQUIBS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-JLcEuu4Y

When people have used the term explosives for thermite..it is essentially correct all else is hair splitting and irrelevant AS IS ..is gasoline flammable...as i have shown thermite is classified as an explosive ..gasoline a flammable liquid..in many official uses and hair splitting is just a stupid game...their is nothing to revise it was always the contention that thermite and conventional explosives were used...and the statement that a truck bomb planted by FBI DUPES in the first wtc attack did int bring down the towers is just stupidity

 

[eots]

SQUIBS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-JLcEuu4Y

sorry, another fail
an explosive squib would have taken out more than just ONE WINDOW
and
please explain how they would be able to time the explosions to start AFTER the beginning of the collapse when in controlled demolitions the squibs come BEFORE the start of the collapse

explain a free fall collapse and molten metal first..with something other than denial