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Jesus is the Word of God. And the scriptures contain His Word. Both because they testify of Christ and because they literally contain the words He has spoken to His servants with His own voice and by the power of the Holy Ghost.
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Jesus is the Word of God. And the scriptures contain His Word. Both because they testify of Christ and because they literally contain the words He has spoken to His servants with His own voice and by the power of the Holy Ghost.
I want to make sure I got this correct.
When these Christians talk of the word, they are talking about Jesus and not the words in the Bible, right?
...the point being: no matter whose interpretation/transliteration we're talking about, it wasn't Isaiah who "talk[ed] like that".
Nighty night.
"Endureth" isn't used in the King James Version of that particular scripture. It reads, "Stands for ever". Look it up. (Endureth is the modern translation - not the "archaic one" - I didn't mention it earlier as I didn't want to embarrass you).
I believe it was chosen by bible scholars for the modern translation as they believed that "endureth" would have been the word - Isaiah would have used - in that verse. Your issue would be with them, not me. I merely answered Guno's question, Cap.
And I merely pointed out that your answer, "Isaiah", was bullshit, because, even if he existed in OT times, he certainly didn't "talk like that" (I.E. in archaic English). This is true, regardless of when or by whom the word "endureth" was transliterated, whether by midieval scholars (as it was in a number of 1611 KJV passages) or by modern idiots still clinging to the far more flowery archaic English.
I want to make sure I got this correct.
When these Christians talk of the word, they are talking about Jesus and not the words in the Bible, right?
Jesus Christ is the Word - and therein what you are reading when you read the King James Bible - is the Word of God. The Word of God has the power to impart life into the hearer. Faith cometh by hearing the Word of God.
Keep reading!
I want to make sure I got this correct.
When these Christians talk of the word, they are talking about Jesus and not the words in the Bible, right?
Jesus Christ is the Word - and therein what you are reading when you read the King James Bible - is the Word of God. The Word of God has the power to impart life into the hearer. Faith cometh by hearing the Word of God.
Keep reading!
So, words in a book are the same as a man dying on a cross?
I don't think that is what is meant by the term "trinity". Think about it. How is a man,a physical living presence, the same as written words on paper? They are not, no matter how you try to argue.
Do you know why God wanted to create us in His image and after His likeness? Because He desired to have fellowship with us - to walk with us and to have a relationship with us. Do you have any idea how wonderfully you were created? And for what purpose? Now you do!
God created you for Himself! How beautiful is that, A? Is there anything more wonderful than that? No. There isn't.
Try all you might, but the trinity recognizes 3 distinct "beings" as 1I want to make sure I got this correct.
When these Christians talk of the word, they are talking about Jesus and not the words in the Bible, right?
Jesus Christ is the Word - and therein what you are reading when you read the King James Bible - is the Word of God. The Word of God has the power to impart life into the hearer. Faith cometh by hearing the Word of God.
Keep reading!
So, words in a book are the same as a man dying on a cross?
I don't think that is what is meant by the term "trinity". Think about it. How is a man,a physical living presence, the same as written words on paper? They are not, no matter how you try to argue.
Jesus has risen. He defeated hell and the grave, A. I do not use the word trinity. I believe the Word of God - Hear O Israel the LORD thy God is One. 1 x 1 x 1 = 1. Not 3. In Genesis 1:26 we see God the Father, God the Word (Jesus Christ is the Word) and God the Holy Spirit. Let US make man in OUR IMAGE and after OUR LIKENESS...
Do you know why God wanted to create us in His image and after His likeness? Because He desired to have fellowship with us - to walk with us and to have a relationship with us. Do you have any idea how wonderfully you were created? And for what purpose? Now you do!
God created you for Himself! How beautiful is that, A? Is there anything more wonderful than that? No. There isn't.
When God spoke..................He spoke the Word. Jesus Christ is the Word. Jesus Christ is the Word of God. Which is what makes the King James Bible unique from all other books. You see the King James Bible is more than a book. It is a living Word that when heard and mixed with faith - produces life! Life in Christ! The Word of God is powerful. The spoken Word of God tramples demons, principalities, powers, it defeats the rulers of darkness of this world, spiritual wickedness in high places - the Spoken Word is the Sword of the Spirit written about in Ephesians 6:17. The Word of God has the power to bring deliverance, healing, Salvation to the listener. What other Book do you know of that can do that? Do you understand that this is why Satan and his workers despise the King James Bible so much? It is the very power of God!
OP STATED: "God's Word shall endure for ever."
I ask: Then why do you and your religion change that word and ideology through the NT reinvention and opposition to the word?
If that word say beware of the first fallen messiah (lucifer) placed as a god, why would you ignore the word and warning to bow down to that son of perdition?
I don't have to read further then your first sentence because
1) that did not answer the question like you promised it would and
2) your created figure WAS SELF TESTIFIED, all your claims have been based on your own NT instead of history= self testified.
3) one of the contradictions and lies found in the NT is exactly that quote about self testifying.
"If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true."
Rome was allowing you to see their christ was a farce because they shared with you that very same
Self testimony.
"He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were
willing for a season to rejoice in his light."
Shimon told you it's because he was the Sun, the cult were sun worshipers which made it easy to converge with the other sun cults. Dictionary:
Lucifer
[See here etymology of "Lucifer": "[ the morning star, a fallen rebel archangel, THE Devil, fr. OE. fr. Latin, the morning star, fr. Lucifer light-bearing, fr. luc light + -fer -ferous--more at LIGHT]" (Webster's, p.677)