The wall won't work

[buckeye45_73]

I love it when I see this crap. You all know it will work and very effectively

Border Wall Models Thwart US Commandos In Tests

Recent assaults by tactical teams on prototypes of President Donald Trump’s proposed wall with Mexico indicate their imposing heights should stop border crossers, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the rigorous assessment told The Associated Press

The highly trained testers scaled 16 to 20 feet (4.9 to 6.1 meters) unassisted but needed help after that, said the official who described the assaults on the wall prototypes to the AP. Testers also expressed safety concerns about getting down from 30 feet

That fall is a doozey...and they need help to scale to 30 feet as special forces......it's gonna work and that's why people don't like it.

 

[JoeMoma]

A wall is not necessary for border security, but it’s not going to hurt.

 

[nat4900]

I love it when I see this crap. You all know it will work and very effectively

Border Wall Models Thwart US Commandos In Tests

Recent assaults by tactical teams on prototypes of President Donald Trump’s proposed wall with Mexico indicate their imposing heights should stop border crossers, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the rigorous assessment told The Associated Press

The highly trained testers scaled 16 to 20 feet (4.9 to 6.1 meters) unassisted but needed help after that, said the official who described the assaults on the wall prototypes to the AP. Testers also expressed safety concerns about getting down from 30 feet

That fall is a doozey...and they need help to scale to 30 feet as special forces......it's gonna work and that's why people don't like it.

Rare view of tunnels under border wall - YouTube
▶ 4:54
27, 2017 - Uploaded by CNN
CNN's Ed Lavandera gets a rare look at tunnels underneath the wall along the US-Mexico border.

 

[Rocko]

Where in the world has a wall not worked?

 

[nat4900]

Where in the world has a wall not worked?

Egypt and the Gaza Strip........

 

[westwall]

Where in the world has a wall not worked?

Indeed. It seems that every time that a wall has been built, and supported, it has worked. And worked well.

"Belfast is a small city, but it’s demarcated by almost 100 ‘peace walls’ that separate Catholic and Protestant areas. Once serving as peace-keeping measures, they are now, in a post-Good Friday Agreement Northern Ireland, popular tourist locations. Here’s our brief guide to Northern Ireland’s peace lines."

The Story Behind Northern Ireland’s Peace Walls


Now that the walls are coming down, there are those who feel that maybe they shouldn't....

"Last week, Belfast tore down its first peace wall. These brick and wire boundaries were strung across roads, parks and even backyards during the period of the Northern Irish Troubles, in a bid to create manageable barriers between the province’s warring communities. With the walls in place, both sides of Northern Ireland’s sectarian divide found respite from daily tension and violence on their doorstep. Now, 18 years after the Good Friday Agreement that brokered a peace deal for the region, it’s time for these relics of former strife to come down. By 2023, all of Northern Ireland’s 48 peace walls (most of them in Belfast) will be demolished, ushering in a new era in which the province’s communities can live in both proximity and harmony.

That’s the aspiration at least, and a noble one at that. But while it’s true that inter-communal violence has dropped greatly and attitudes shifted in recent decades, the reality that Belfast’s peace walls have both shaped and reflected is complex. The walls don’t just prevent street violence. The practical and psychological barriers they have put up have fostered a sense of stability that, while ultimately untenable, will require delicate renegotiation."
The Complex Process of Demolishing Belfast's 'Peace Walls'

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Why are the Democrats against controlling illegal immigration?

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

What would happen to our country if we gave-up on controlling our immigration?
Is that what the Democrats want to do?

 

[IsaacNewton]

Yes how is anyone going to tunnel under a wall. Or construct a catapult that will shoot canvas over the top that will allow people to go over the top.

Drug cartels have already built tunnels that are 50-100 feet deep that extended a mile or more under the border. What bugwit thinks 'a wall' is going to stop anything. All it will do is drive up the cost of mules that get people across and provide a new market for cartels to provide 'access' across the border. You get two or three ten ton hydraulic rams attached to jaws that open out and you can open that grate looking thing like a can-opener anywhere you like.

Stationary defenses are always overcome. Always. The Maginot Line, The Zeigfreid Line, The Atlantic Wall, The Wall of China. Bank vaults.

All walls do is put a premium on the fee the people that overcome them get paid. A wall won't stop anything on our border.

 

[westwall]

Yes how is anyone going to tunnel under a wall. Or construct a catapult that will shoot canvas over the top that will allow people to go over the top.

Drug cartels have already built tunnels that are 50-100 feet deep that extended a mile or more under the border. What bugwit thinks 'a wall' is going to stop anything. All it will do is drive up the cost of mules that get people across and provide a new market for cartels to provide 'access' across the border. You get two or three ten ton hydraulic rams attached to jaws that open out and you can open that grate looking thing like a can-opener anywhere you like.

Stationary defenses are always overcome. Always. The Maginot Line, The Zeigfreid Line, The Atlantic Wall, The Wall of China. Bank vaults.

All walls do is put a premium on the fee the people that overcome them get paid. A wall won't stop anything on our border.

Actually they will. There are only a few places where tunneling is possible, thus, the walls will constrict the tunnelers to those areas and with a bit of technology in the way of seismic detectors you can track the tunnel building, then when the diggers get close you seal it up with cement and they get to start over. A huge waste of time and money for them, and a nice training and technology development test for us.

 

[Hossfly]

Where in the world has a wall not worked?

Egypt and the Gaza Strip........

Is the Gaza Strip overrun with Mexicans?

 

[dudmuck]

Trump contradicts his own chief of staff.
Kelly says that Trump doesnt want the wall anymore.
Then Trump says he still wants the wall.
Complete clusterfuck.

 

[westwall]

Trump contradicts his own chief of staff.
Kelly says that Trump doesnt want the wall anymore.
Then Trump says he still wants the wall.
Complete clusterfuck.

You progressives lie like it's going out of style. I actually watched the interview live and not one word that you claim is actually factual. You people are truly pathetic. "Fake news all the time!" should be your new motto.

 

[dudmuck]

Trump contradicts his own chief of staff.
Kelly says that Trump doesnt want the wall anymore.
Then Trump says he still wants the wall.
Complete clusterfuck.

NPR links to the fox news article, which has the interview, which must be the one you watched.

When Kelly said the wall was unnecessary, he was speaking to a caucus of Hispanic lawmakers.



You progressives lie like it's going out of style. I actually watched the interview live and not one word that you claim is actually factual. You people are truly pathetic. "Fake news all the time!" should be your new motto.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes how is anyone going to tunnel under a wall. Or construct a catapult that will shoot canvas over the top that will allow people to go over the top.

Drug cartels have already built tunnels that are 50-100 feet deep that extended a mile or more under the border. What bugwit thinks 'a wall' is going to stop anything. All it will do is drive up the cost of mules that get people across and provide a new market for cartels to provide 'access' across the border. You get two or three ten ton hydraulic rams attached to jaws that open out and you can open that grate looking thing like a can-opener anywhere you like.

Stationary defenses are always overcome. Always. The Maginot Line, The Zeigfreid Line, The Atlantic Wall, The Wall of China. Bank vaults.

All walls do is put a premium on the fee the people that overcome them get paid. A wall won't stop anything on our border.

We aren't talking about well equipped armies getting across the wall, numskull. We're talking about ignorant peasants who don't have two nickels to rub together. They won't be using any catapults or digging tunnels two miles long. You just admitted the wall would drive up the cost of crossing the border to astronomical heights. That means the wall is working. How many people are going to cross the border if it costs $50,000?

Case closed.

 

[Bush92]

This will work...

 

[bripat9643]

Where in the world has a wall not worked?

Egypt and the Gaza Strip........

Here's a picture of the wall around Gaza. It works.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Yes how is anyone going to tunnel under a wall. Or construct a catapult that will shoot canvas over the top that will allow people to go over the top.

Drug cartels have already built tunnels that are 50-100 feet deep that extended a mile or more under the border. What bugwit thinks 'a wall' is going to stop anything. All it will do is drive up the cost of mules that get people across and provide a new market for cartels to provide 'access' across the border. You get two or three ten ton hydraulic rams attached to jaws that open out and you can open that grate looking thing like a can-opener anywhere you like.

Stationary defenses are always overcome. Always. The Maginot Line, The Zeigfreid Line, The Atlantic Wall, The Wall of China. Bank vaults.

All walls do is put a premium on the fee the people that overcome them get paid. A wall won't stop anything on our border.

murder laws don't stop people from committing murder, I guess we should do away with them.....some will get through, but a lot less will......then you focus on the tunnels.....and rivers and other areas.

 

[Norman]

Where in the world has a wall not worked?

Egypt and the Gaza Strip........

That's no a wall though, not anymore.

Walls work.

 

[Alexanderful]

I love it when I see this crap. You all know it will work and very effectively

Border Wall Models Thwart US Commandos In Tests

Recent assaults by tactical teams on prototypes of President Donald Trump’s proposed wall with Mexico indicate their imposing heights should stop border crossers, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the rigorous assessment told The Associated Press

The highly trained testers scaled 16 to 20 feet (4.9 to 6.1 meters) unassisted but needed help after that, said the official who described the assaults on the wall prototypes to the AP. Testers also expressed safety concerns about getting down from 30 feet

That fall is a doozey...and they need help to scale to 30 feet as special forces......it's gonna work and that's why people don't like it.

I love it when I see this crap. You all know it will work and very effectively

Border Wall Models Thwart US Commandos In Tests

Recent assaults by tactical teams on prototypes of President Donald Trump’s proposed wall with Mexico indicate their imposing heights should stop border crossers, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the rigorous assessment told The Associated Press

The highly trained testers scaled 16 to 20 feet (4.9 to 6.1 meters) unassisted but needed help after that, said the official who described the assaults on the wall prototypes to the AP. Testers also expressed safety concerns about getting down from 30 feet

That fall is a doozey...and they need help to scale to 30 feet as special forces......it's gonna work and that's why people don't like it.

I'm fine with the wall...it's relatively inexpensive and will improve border security...although not perfectly. But a wall combined with "demand-side" reforms such as mandatory e-verify and stricter fines and inspections on businesses hiring illegals would really do the trick. Bottom line...it should be made nearly impossible for people to build a life in the US without a legal status. Once immigration is controlled we can have meaningful debate over how many immigrants to accept annually.