The Violence of Conservatism

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    The Violence of Conservatism

    by Jeffrey A. Tucker

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    Ads like this one make me shudder, mainly because I once thought of myself as a conservative (for both good and bad reasons). The ad runs: "3 Conservative Books for $1 each" and examples of such conservative books flash by, all of them screaming for blood, exalting the imperial state, decrying the very basis of civilization (peace), and demanding the jailing of dissidents, and one more: something denouncing Democrats.

    Sean Hannity's Deliver Us From Evil combines chauvinism and sacrilege, PJ O'Rourke's Peace Kills finds humor in slaughter, Ann Coulter's Treason imagines internment as a permanent solution to the problem of political dissent, and there are a hundred other books striking similar things available from the same service.

    All of this can be yours for next-to-nothing down, and only a promise to buy more later should your will to kill fail you as the months pass by.

    So there we have it. The magic of the marketplace, delivering via your computer screen straight to your doorstep, for only a buck, hundreds of pages of the most violent rhetoric put between covers since Progress Publishers collected Stalin's speeches.

    This is conservatism. There's no use in denying it. The war party and American conservatism are interchangeable and inseparable. They are synonyms. The same thing. They co-exist. How many ways can we put it? Militarism and violence is at the core of conservatism...

    The Violence of Conservatism by Jeffrey A. Tucker
     
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    Odd--Obama is sending more troops to Afghanistan. Is that the party of peace? :lol:
     
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    this is from the same kook who didn't know obama and his thugs blamed bush for the economy...
     
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    Hey Yurt...a few simple questions for you...

    1) Whatever the "state" of the economy is at the conclusion of one administration, is it a fair and accurate statement for ANY incoming president to say he's inheriting that "state" or situation?

    2) How many urinal cakes did you have to taste to figure out they weren't real cakes?


    I think it’s just crazy. It's part of that worldview that led us to where we are. Think about it. The United States went and negotiated with and supported Saddam Hussein himself against Iran under this notion that sometimes my enemy is my friend. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. That emboldened Saddam Hussein and allowed him to invade Kuwait. It made us go to war that we did not finish and did not take Saddam Hussein out.
    Former Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Texas) 12/11/06 (The Hill)
     
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    Aside from this article being ancient in political terms, he makes some very valid points. However, he's wrong about this:

    He's sounds like just another Republican who voted for George W. Bush in 2000 expecting a 'true' conservative and got an LBJ-style Democrat. What he is missing is that the country is right-of-center (yes, conservative) and neither the Republican nor the Democratic Parties represent them. I hope he didn't vote for Obama.
     
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    I think you are living in the past...America was founded on liberal tenets...

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    Voter Shift for 2004 to 2008
    Most of the country shifted Democratic, except for Alaska (Palin's home state), Arizona (John McCain's home state), and those parts of the South without a relatively large black population
     
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    Uh, no. Liberals stand for many things like free markets and freedom of speech, but they are anything but Democrats. (Well, there might actually be a few Democrats who are true liberals, but not too many.) The meaning of the word 'Liberal' has been corrupted by contemporary American liberals, so the modern political definition of 'liberal' and what it was at the beginning of the country are diametrically opposed.

    I recommend you update what you think you know about the word 'liberal'.
     
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    Funny enough, he linked LewRockwell.com who is a loud advocate for true/classical liberalism. Yet Bfgrn is a strong advocate of tyranny in terms of economics.
     
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    go debate that point in the other thread ou claimed obama never said that
     
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    *yawn*

    Funny thing. I don't recall any violent conservative protests. On the other hand, I don't recall any NONviolent lefty protests.:eusa_whistle:
     

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