The US Navy is testing a submarine-hunting drone ship

[blackhawk2415]

Heck yeah! Even though US military spending is pretty ridiculous, but I got to say that a sub hunting drone is pretty awesome. Go USA! Here's a brief excerpt:

"The US Navy is currently testing a robotic ship that would be able to autonomously hunt enemy diesel submarines.

Originally conceived as a DARPA project, the Anti-Submarine Warfare Continuous Trail Unmanned Vessel (ACTUV) is designed to hunt the next generation of nearly silent enemy diesel submarines.

Diesel submarines are quickly proliferating around the world due to their low cost. Russia recently announced that it has launched the world's "quietest submarine."

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[Book of Jeremiah]

If they can detect Akula Class II submarines that would be outstanding. The Akula is a Russian made submarine cannot be detected by our Navy. Which is why the one off the coast of Texas last summer was sitting off the coast for a month and was never detected.

 

[bucs90]

If they can detect Akula Class II submarines that would be outstanding. The Akula is a Russian made submarine cannot be detected by our Navy. Which is why the one off the coast of Texas last summer was sitting off the coast for a month and was never detected.

Wait...what? How did we find out it was there?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I believe it surfaced and the people on shore took a photo of it and asked what is this?

One Texas Senator (may have been Congressman) was very concerned about it and asked specifically why did we not detect that Russian submarine! The answer? We do not have the technology. We used to. The Russian submarines used to be so loud it sounded like a bike with a card in the spokes when it went by - according to sources - then? Then they were able to infiltrate -their spies got our technology and the next thing you know? The Navy was retiring certain programs because they were no longer able to detect the newer Russian Subs.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

If they can detect Akula Class II submarines that would be outstanding. The Akula is a Russian made submarine cannot be detected by our Navy. Which is why the one off the coast of Texas last summer was sitting off the coast for a month and was never detected.

Wait...what? How did we find out it was there?

This is a story about it but not the article I am looking for.

Undetected Russian nuclear sub patrolled Gulf of Mexico RT News
An arch-conservative US website claimed that a Russian nuclear sub has been patrolling the Gulf of Mexico undetected for more than a month. The website laid the alleged blunder by the US Navy at the feet of President Barack Obama.

The Washington Free Beacon website claimed that a Russian Akula-class nuclear sub, loaded with cruise missiles, has been patrolling near the US strategic nuclear submarine base at Kings Bay, Georgia, the home base for eight of America’s nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines.

Armed with various types of torpedoes, including those with nuclear warheads, anti-submarine-warfare missiles and long-range (3,000 kilometers) nuclear cruise missiles, Akula-class subs are capable of destroying both nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The Akula Class Subs off Kings Bay, Georgia happened during Superstorm Sandy. We actually gave them permission to come in and they were within listening range of our own navy port - submarine base in Kings Bay - it was a huge security breach issue - the Akula Class II sub that was off the coast of Texas was sighted from the beach as I recall the story and the photo made it to the newspapers.

 

[WinterBorn]

Submarines have always been notoriously hard to find. Diesel boats are noisy as hell when they are running on the surface, but when they submerge and run on batteries they are all but silent.

I was onboard the USS James Madison, SSBN 627. We were on patrol and heard a lot of surface noise. There was a carrier group running anti-submarine ops above us. We came to periscope depth in the wake of the USS America, snapped a picture of her stern, and slipped under and away. When we got back in to port, the CO mailed the pic to the CO of the America. He had drawn a circle & crosshairs on the pic and on the back it said "Gotcha".

When we came out of the shipyards from a retrofit, we were involved in anti-sub warfare games off Gitmo. We had red flares (for when we were hit), green flares (for when we hit them), and yellow flares for when they requested our position. The first two day run was cut short because we ran out of yellow flares.



What will these drones be able to do that sonobuoys, ships, planes, and helos could not?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Submarines have always been notoriously hard to find. Diesel boats are noisy as hell when they are running on the surface, but when they submerge and run on batteries they are all but silent.

I was onboard the USS James Madison, SSBN 627. We were on patrol and heard a lot of surface noise. There was a carrier group running anti-submarine ops above us. We came to periscope depth in the wake of the USS America, snapped a picture of her stern, and slipped under and away. When we got back in to port, the CO mailed the pic to the CO of the America. He had drawn a circle & crosshairs on the pic and on the back it said "Gotcha".

When we came out of the shipyards from a retrofit, we were involved in anti-sub warfare games off Gitmo. We had red flares (for when we were hit), green flares (for when we hit them), and yellow flares for when they requested our position. The first two day run was cut short because we ran out of yellow flares.



What will these drones be able to do that sonobuoys, ships, planes, and helos could not?

Not the Russian Submarines, Winterborn. They were easily detected by our Navy until their spies were able to access our technology. Which is why the Navy retired at least one program specificly for Russian Subs. If you can no longer detect them - what is the point? The truth is we are wide open. Far more than the American people have been informed about. It's only the grace of God that something hasn't already happened.

 

[Manonthestreet]

....FLeet ASW has degraded at an alarming rate. IS this an admission that LCS is a failure....I think I'd rather have supercomputers on the earphones than a human.

 

[eagle1462010]

Future Maritime Patrol - Part 6 C130J and A400M Options - Think Defence

POD attached variables are increasing in technology.........into all fields of combat including ASW...........they can now literally attach a pod mounted weapon on many types of aircraft and helo's and make them into weapons and intel platforms...............including even commercial airliners if needed............

Diesel boats on batteries as winterborn said are very quiet...........but noisy as hell on diesels....................

My brother flew P3 Orions from Sicily many many years ago...........He used to joke about finding subs in the Med........He said,"you could stick a sonobuoy up a subs ass and still not find them there."

To read about that google bathtub effect in the Med.

 

[eagle1462010]

While I don't agree with they will replace manned submarines.............it shows ASW is growing........as are the undersea networks of finding and killing submarines......................Not that it is easy.......Those are some big ass oceans out there.....................but implementing detection and kill methods in areas via the ocean floor is not that new with tech..................

Carl LaVO Drone carriers likely to replace submarines and obsolete stealth planes

From News Big Future/21 Feb. 2015
Advances in big data and new detection methods are on track to fuse with the anti-access/area denial (A2/AD) ambitions of nations like China and Russia which could force naval planners around the world to go back to the drawing board.
America's superiority in undersea warfare is the product of decades of research and development, a sophisticated defense industrial base, operational experience, and high-fidelity training. This superiority, however, is far from assured. U.S. submarines are the world’s quietest, but new detection techniques are emerging that do not rely on the noise a submarine makes, and that may render traditional manned submarine operations far riskier in the future.
America’s competitors are likely pursuing these technologies while also expanding their own undersea forces. To sustain its undersea advantage well into this century, the U.S. Navy must accelerate innovation in undersea warfare by reconsidering the role of manned submarines and exploiting emerging technologies to field a new “family of undersea systems.
SOSUS, an acronym for Sound Surveillance System, is a chain of underwater listering posts located around the world in places such as the Atlantic Ocean near Greenland, Iceland and the United Kingdom — the GIUK gap, and at various locations in the Pacific Ocean. The United States Navy's initial intent for the system was for tracking Soviet submarines, which had to pass through the gap to attack targets further west. It was later supplemented by mobile assets such as the Surveillance Towed Array Sensor System (SURTASS), and became part of the Integrated Undersea Surveillance System (IUSS).
China is developing their own version of SOSUS with an undersea listening network.
Historical analysis shows that defences against submarines do not have to kill the submarines to be effective. So long as the submarines spend a lot more time to evade then the submarines are not performing their missions.

 

[eagle1462010]

U.S. Navy LCS - Fit For Service Or Incredible Failure - gCaptain

‘Incredible’ Failure
The report is likely to be discussed today at a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee’s seapower panel headed by SenatorJack Reed, a Rhode Island Democrat. Senator John McCain ofArizona, the panel’s top Republican, recounted the ship’s troubles in a speech yesterday on the Senate floor.

“Failure this comprehensive is incredible, even for our broken defense procurement system,” McCain said of a program that received congressional approval to spend more than $12 billion since 2004.

Lieutenant Caroline Hutcheson, a Navy spokeswoman, said in an e-mailed statement that the service was aware the report was coming out and expects “it to cover areas already being collaboratively addressed by the Navy and industry.”

“We continuously refine and test the LCS program to learn the full extent of possibilities for these first-of-a-kind ships,” she said. “We’ve incorporated engineering modifications which improve performance and continue to look at the concept of employment, as exemplified” by a recent war game.

Singapore Deployment
The GAO reviewed the 10-month deployment to Singapore last year of the USS Freedom, a ship built by Bethesda, Maryland-based Lockheed.

Pentagon officials highlighted the Freedom’s visit as a step in the U.S. refocusing on Asia, demonstrating the Defense Department’s commitment to send its best equipment there to reassure allies.

While the deployment provided “important real-world lessons” that “are being used to refine plans for subsequent deployments,” the GAO said, “significant unknowns persist regarding LCS concepts and use.”

The Freedom’s stay was marred by 55 days lost due to mechanical problems with gears, hydraulics, generators and water jets, “which is a significant portion of its” deployment, the agency said.

 

[Dot Com]

Not the Russian Submarines, Winterborn. They were easily detected by our Navy until their spies were able to access our technology. Which is why the Navy retired at least one program specificly for Russian Subs. If you can no longer detect them - what is the point? The truth is we are wide open. Far more than the American people have been informed about. It's only the grace of God that something hasn't already happened.

you serve when, where?

and the "arch conservative, anti Obama" washington free beacon as a source?

 

[Dot Com]

The Akula Class Subs off Kings Bay, Georgia happened during Superstorm Sandy. We actually gave them permission to come in and they were within listening range of our own navy port - submarine base in Kings Bay - it was a huge security breach issue - the Akula Class II sub that was off the coast of Texas was sighted from the beach as I recall the story and the photo made it to the newspapers.

yeah. You gave your hack source in post#5. Save it.