The true enemy of the Israeli people.

[RodISHI]

So you find Christian evangelism, Rabbi's teaching the Torah, and Islamic terror of Mullah's and Imam's comparable.

If they are zealots. All of them desire war. And all of them think it's justified because theirs is the "correct" magical belief system. So yes. Very comparable.

Wrong but you are too ignorant to understand that. Killing in the name of God is "the destroyer" spoken of in Revelation. Shooting some dickhead that breaks into your home and lands on top of you saying he is going to rape you and is a threat to your family is self defense. Too bad you do not know or recognize the difference.

When evangelical warhawks and extremist Jews order families to be killed, those families lack the capability to shoot them like a "dickhead" in defense.

It is your claim so back it up.

 

[louie888]

Shooting some dickhead that breaks into your home and lands on top of you saying he is going to rape you and is a threat to your family is self defense.

Exactly! The Palestinians have been defending themselves as best they can for the last several decades.

 

[RodISHI]

Shooting some dickhead that breaks into your home and lands on top of you saying he is going to rape you and is a threat to your family is self defense.

Exactly! The Palestinians have been defending themselves as best they can for the last several decades.

I have neighbors like Palestinians. See I bought the land from the owner (a preacher of all things) and they merely made up between themselves 'quit claim' and erroneous deeds. I could legally throw their asses off of my land but there are other crooks that have prevented me from doing that for the moment. I offered these common thieves who have threatened and even shot at me a small piece of land with a legitimate deed but they were unwilling to accept that as they truly believe that they will prevail even though the law won't allow them to prevail.

 

[louie888]

..."Lies are their way of life, deciet is their principle....

Again... great point!

 

[TheOldSchool]

So you find Christian evangelism, Rabbi's teaching the Torah, and Islamic terror of Mullah's and Imam's comparable.

If they are zealots. All of them desire war. And all of them think it's justified because theirs is the "correct" magical belief system. So yes. Very comparable.

Wrong but you are too ignorant to understand that. Killing in the name of God is "the destroyer" spoken of in Revelation. Shooting some dickhead that breaks into your home and lands on top of you saying he is going to rape you and is a threat to your family is self defense. Too bad you do not know or recognize the difference.

When evangelical warhawks and extremist Jews order families to be killed, those families lack the capability to shoot them like a "dickhead" in defense.

It is your claim so back it up.

I have 70 years of U.S., Israeli, and Muslim Middle East policy to back me up.

 

[RodISHI]

So you find Christian evangelism, Rabbi's teaching the Torah, and Islamic terror of Mullah's and Imam's comparable.

If they are zealots. All of them desire war. And all of them think it's justified because theirs is the "correct" magical belief system. So yes. Very comparable.

Wrong but you are too ignorant to understand that. Killing in the name of God is "the destroyer" spoken of in Revelation. Shooting some dickhead that breaks into your home and lands on top of you saying he is going to rape you and is a threat to your family is self defense. Too bad you do not know or recognize the difference.

When evangelical warhawks and extremist Jews order families to be killed, those families lack the capability to shoot them like a "dickhead" in defense.

It is your claim so back it up.

I have 70 years of U.S., Israeli, and Muslim Middle East policy to back me up.

Looks like you haven't learned a whole hell of a lot in your seventy years.

 

[TheOldSchool]

If they are zealots. All of them desire war. And all of them think it's justified because theirs is the "correct" magical belief system. So yes. Very comparable.

Wrong but you are too ignorant to understand that. Killing in the name of God is "the destroyer" spoken of in Revelation. Shooting some dickhead that breaks into your home and lands on top of you saying he is going to rape you and is a threat to your family is self defense. Too bad you do not know or recognize the difference.

When evangelical warhawks and extremist Jews order families to be killed, those families lack the capability to shoot them like a "dickhead" in defense.

It is your claim so back it up.

I have 70 years of U.S., Israeli, and Muslim Middle East policy to back me up.

Looks like you haven't learned a whole hell of a lot in your seventy years.

More than you. I learned that their policies have failed to work or solve anything for 70 years. At this pace, it will take you around 200 more years to realize it.

 

[RodISHI]

Wrong but you are too ignorant to understand that. Killing in the name of God is "the destroyer" spoken of in Revelation. Shooting some dickhead that breaks into your home and lands on top of you saying he is going to rape you and is a threat to your family is self defense. Too bad you do not know or recognize the difference.

When evangelical warhawks and extremist Jews order families to be killed, those families lack the capability to shoot them like a "dickhead" in defense.

It is your claim so back it up.

I have 70 years of U.S., Israeli, and Muslim Middle East policy to back me up.

Looks like you haven't learned a whole hell of a lot in your seventy years.

More than you. I learned that their policies have failed to work or solve anything for 70 years. At this pace, it will take you around 200 more years to realize it.

Again you haven't learned much in that seventy years.

 

[Hollie]

Shooting some dickhead that breaks into your home and lands on top of you saying he is going to rape you and is a threat to your family is self defense.

Exactly! The Palestinians have been defending themselves as best they can for the last several decades.

Oh yeah. The Death Cultists grooming their children to strap a bond to their bodies and walk into a crowd of people or step into a bus and explode in a bright orange flash with shrapnel flying through the air at high speed is defending youself.

Only in the diseased mind of the retrogrades.

 

[louie888]

Shooting some dickhead that breaks into your home and lands on top of you saying he is going to rape you and is a threat to your family is self defense.

Exactly! The Palestinians have been defending themselves as best they can for the last several decades.

Oh yeah. The Death Cultists grooming their children to strap a bond to their bodies and walk into a crowd of people or step into a bus and explode in a bright orange flash with shrapnel flying through the air at high speed is defending youself.

Only in the diseased mind of the retrogrades.

Only in your conspiracy theory riddled mind.

 

[Hollie]

Shooting some dickhead that breaks into your home and lands on top of you saying he is going to rape you and is a threat to your family is self defense.

Exactly! The Palestinians have been defending themselves as best they can for the last several decades.

Oh yeah. The Death Cultists grooming their children to strap a bond to their bodies and walk into a crowd of people or step into a bus and explode in a bright orange flash with shrapnel flying through the air at high speed is defending youself.

Only in the diseased mind of the retrogrades.

Only in your conspiracy theory riddled mind.

Oh, my. You're angry. You can sidestep and evade as you usually do but arab-Moslem terrorists have an undeniable history of grooming their children to be explosive delivery devices. Conspiracy theories won't help you here. The most base aspect of human behavior is to willingly and relentlessly indoctrinate children with the notion that carnal rewards await for those who commit suicide / mass murder in the name of a desert arab.

 

[aris2chat]

I, like hundreds of thousands of Israelis, felt appalled and disgusted by the op-ed published on "Ha'aretz" website, a couple of days ago.

The writer, Yossi Klein, used one of the most basic rights given to us, the freedom of speech, and delivered an article filled with hate, generalization and political-incorrectness. Unfortunately, it's not a rare event when public figures and people of culture, from different side of the ideological map, fall into the clutches of demonization. This time, the direct target of said demonizatrion was the religious Zionism.

Under the title of "Our Righteous Elite", Mr Klein spills his heart regarding what he believes, is the source of all wrong- religious Israeli Jews. He spares no words and sugarcoat nothing when saying, out for everyone to read, that religious Israeli Jews are worse than Hezbollah. Yes, the same Hezbollah that is responsible for killing many Israelis, Syrians, Europeans and Lebanese. The same Heazbollah that backs up Assad Regime and turned entire Lebanese cities into a battlefield, is less dangerous to the everyday Israelis than the horror that is the knitted Kippah.

"Yes, the natinalist religious citizens are dangerous. More dangerous than the Palestinian ramming-attackers, girls with scissors, more dangerous than Hezbollah. Arabs are legitimate target. Not so the religious Zionists.What is it that they want? to take over the state and make it Arab-rein. They know it's too soon to be so up-front. They will deny it if you ask, but don't believe them. Their National-religion is radical nationality, covered with the righteousness of fearing God."

He keeps saying that- "They will support delusional media laws, thieving gas organizations, teethless supreme court. They wrap the prime minister and his government around their fingers. They wink when speaking of democracy, but left speechless when reminded of the existance of human rights."

Sparing no words he continues, "Lies are their way of life, deciet is their principle. Democracy and human rights converted to Judaism long ago. Now say- rights for Jews alone."

He later concludes, "Is their any point of dialogue? No, it's too late now. There could have been, if their patriotism was to be separated from their Judaism. There is no bridge that can bring us together now."

Those were harsh words, dipped with poison and Sin'at Chinam, what we call- baseless hate. Ask any common Israeli, they could not deny the great contribution given to us be religious Zionists. They well pay their duties, come first in culture, science, important discoveries. They'll be the firsts to speak against injustice.

Yes they're more dangerous to the 'enlightened' and 'liberal' Israelis than the enemies from north and south. Ro'i Klein, an Israeli commander who jumped on a grenade to save the lives of fellow soldiers, is more dangerous than Hezbollah. Daphna Meir, a religious Zionists, mother of five adopted children, who fought for understanding between religious and secular women and was killed by a Palestinian teen, is more dangerous than Hezbollah.

This kind of hate, mixed with disinformation and prejudice, is something I don't understand. I just as well don't understand those who automatically call all liberal Israelis "traitors" or "Those who forgot the meaning of being Jews". Those who incite against homosexuals, or try to fight of women's rights in the army. All those type of conversations do not help the Israeli people in anyway. We need to ask ourselves, how did we get here?

3 years before the Nazis rose to power, a Jewish phylosopher wrote a book about "Self Jewish hatred" ("Der jüdische Selbsthaß"). About autoantisemitism and rift between Jews. Sad that this book is still relevant today, when we read articles like the one of Yossi Klein. We should say thank you we didn't reach bloodshed, but is it how Israelis supposed to behave?

No. The true enemy of the Jewish people is what is known as "baseless hate". It is something I want to believe we can cure ourselves from. Starting by using words which are less hateful and more reaching.

I hope it's not too late for us.

Well I suppose everybody is entitled to their own opinion of anything.

There are of course 3 or 4 flavors of Jews these days --

- the ultra Orthodox

- the Conservative

- the Reform

- the uninterested in Religion who are merely culturally Jewish.

It's rather hard to pour all these into one bucket and expect to say anything intelligent about any and all of them.

Jews are really no different than Catholics or than Eastern Orthodox or even than many of the Protestant Evangelical's.

It is really the moosleem threat to the world and their foul perverted doctrines of 72 virgins for acts of mass murder that is the worst threat, actually.

Currently with moosleem attention on Europe that is somewhat of a relief on Israelis -- the silver lining to a very dark ominous cloud -- the moosleems.

Just curious if anyone knows what those '72 virgins' represent or a clue of how Muhammad got that idea?

Where did the Notion of 72 Virgins in Islamic Paradise Come from?

72 Virgins - WikiIslam

 

[RodISHI]

I, like hundreds of thousands of Israelis, felt appalled and disgusted by the op-ed published on "Ha'aretz" website, a couple of days ago.

The writer, Yossi Klein, used one of the most basic rights given to us, the freedom of speech, and delivered an article filled with hate, generalization and political-incorrectness. Unfortunately, it's not a rare event when public figures and people of culture, from different side of the ideological map, fall into the clutches of demonization. This time, the direct target of said demonizatrion was the religious Zionism.

Under the title of "Our Righteous Elite", Mr Klein spills his heart regarding what he believes, is the source of all wrong- religious Israeli Jews. He spares no words and sugarcoat nothing when saying, out for everyone to read, that religious Israeli Jews are worse than Hezbollah. Yes, the same Hezbollah that is responsible for killing many Israelis, Syrians, Europeans and Lebanese. The same Heazbollah that backs up Assad Regime and turned entire Lebanese cities into a battlefield, is less dangerous to the everyday Israelis than the horror that is the knitted Kippah.

"Yes, the natinalist religious citizens are dangerous. More dangerous than the Palestinian ramming-attackers, girls with scissors, more dangerous than Hezbollah. Arabs are legitimate target. Not so the religious Zionists.What is it that they want? to take over the state and make it Arab-rein. They know it's too soon to be so up-front. They will deny it if you ask, but don't believe them. Their National-religion is radical nationality, covered with the righteousness of fearing God."

He keeps saying that- "They will support delusional media laws, thieving gas organizations, teethless supreme court. They wrap the prime minister and his government around their fingers. They wink when speaking of democracy, but left speechless when reminded of the existance of human rights."

Sparing no words he continues, "Lies are their way of life, deciet is their principle. Democracy and human rights converted to Judaism long ago. Now say- rights for Jews alone."

He later concludes, "Is their any point of dialogue? No, it's too late now. There could have been, if their patriotism was to be separated from their Judaism. There is no bridge that can bring us together now."

Those were harsh words, dipped with poison and Sin'at Chinam, what we call- baseless hate. Ask any common Israeli, they could not deny the great contribution given to us be religious Zionists. They well pay their duties, come first in culture, science, important discoveries. They'll be the firsts to speak against injustice.

Yes they're more dangerous to the 'enlightened' and 'liberal' Israelis than the enemies from north and south. Ro'i Klein, an Israeli commander who jumped on a grenade to save the lives of fellow soldiers, is more dangerous than Hezbollah. Daphna Meir, a religious Zionists, mother of five adopted children, who fought for understanding between religious and secular women and was killed by a Palestinian teen, is more dangerous than Hezbollah.

This kind of hate, mixed with disinformation and prejudice, is something I don't understand. I just as well don't understand those who automatically call all liberal Israelis "traitors" or "Those who forgot the meaning of being Jews". Those who incite against homosexuals, or try to fight of women's rights in the army. All those type of conversations do not help the Israeli people in anyway. We need to ask ourselves, how did we get here?

3 years before the Nazis rose to power, a Jewish phylosopher wrote a book about "Self Jewish hatred" ("Der jüdische Selbsthaß"). About autoantisemitism and rift between Jews. Sad that this book is still relevant today, when we read articles like the one of Yossi Klein. We should say thank you we didn't reach bloodshed, but is it how Israelis supposed to behave?

No. The true enemy of the Jewish people is what is known as "baseless hate". It is something I want to believe we can cure ourselves from. Starting by using words which are less hateful and more reaching.

I hope it's not too late for us.

Well I suppose everybody is entitled to their own opinion of anything.

There are of course 3 or 4 flavors of Jews these days --

- the ultra Orthodox

- the Conservative

- the Reform

- the uninterested in Religion who are merely culturally Jewish.

It's rather hard to pour all these into one bucket and expect to say anything intelligent about any and all of them.

Jews are really no different than Catholics or than Eastern Orthodox or even than many of the Protestant Evangelical's.

It is really the moosleem threat to the world and their foul perverted doctrines of 72 virgins for acts of mass murder that is the worst threat, actually.

Currently with moosleem attention on Europe that is somewhat of a relief on Israelis -- the silver lining to a very dark ominous cloud -- the moosleems.

Just curious if anyone knows what those '72 virgins' represent or a clue of how Muhammad got that idea?

Where did the Notion of 72 Virgins in Islamic Paradise Come from?

72 Virgins - WikiIslam

Reading all of that makes me think that they may get some viagra during their next trip through hell.

 

[aris2chat]

I, like hundreds of thousands of Israelis, felt appalled and disgusted by the op-ed published on "Ha'aretz" website, a couple of days ago.

The writer, Yossi Klein, used one of the most basic rights given to us, the freedom of speech, and delivered an article filled with hate, generalization and political-incorrectness. Unfortunately, it's not a rare event when public figures and people of culture, from different side of the ideological map, fall into the clutches of demonization. This time, the direct target of said demonizatrion was the religious Zionism.

Under the title of "Our Righteous Elite", Mr Klein spills his heart regarding what he believes, is the source of all wrong- religious Israeli Jews. He spares no words and sugarcoat nothing when saying, out for everyone to read, that religious Israeli Jews are worse than Hezbollah. Yes, the same Hezbollah that is responsible for killing many Israelis, Syrians, Europeans and Lebanese. The same Heazbollah that backs up Assad Regime and turned entire Lebanese cities into a battlefield, is less dangerous to the everyday Israelis than the horror that is the knitted Kippah.

"Yes, the natinalist religious citizens are dangerous. More dangerous than the Palestinian ramming-attackers, girls with scissors, more dangerous than Hezbollah. Arabs are legitimate target. Not so the religious Zionists.What is it that they want? to take over the state and make it Arab-rein. They know it's too soon to be so up-front. They will deny it if you ask, but don't believe them. Their National-religion is radical nationality, covered with the righteousness of fearing God."

He keeps saying that- "They will support delusional media laws, thieving gas organizations, teethless supreme court. They wrap the prime minister and his government around their fingers. They wink when speaking of democracy, but left speechless when reminded of the existance of human rights."

Sparing no words he continues, "Lies are their way of life, deciet is their principle. Democracy and human rights converted to Judaism long ago. Now say- rights for Jews alone."

He later concludes, "Is their any point of dialogue? No, it's too late now. There could have been, if their patriotism was to be separated from their Judaism. There is no bridge that can bring us together now."

Those were harsh words, dipped with poison and Sin'at Chinam, what we call- baseless hate. Ask any common Israeli, they could not deny the great contribution given to us be religious Zionists. They well pay their duties, come first in culture, science, important discoveries. They'll be the firsts to speak against injustice.

Yes they're more dangerous to the 'enlightened' and 'liberal' Israelis than the enemies from north and south. Ro'i Klein, an Israeli commander who jumped on a grenade to save the lives of fellow soldiers, is more dangerous than Hezbollah. Daphna Meir, a religious Zionists, mother of five adopted children, who fought for understanding between religious and secular women and was killed by a Palestinian teen, is more dangerous than Hezbollah.

This kind of hate, mixed with disinformation and prejudice, is something I don't understand. I just as well don't understand those who automatically call all liberal Israelis "traitors" or "Those who forgot the meaning of being Jews". Those who incite against homosexuals, or try to fight of women's rights in the army. All those type of conversations do not help the Israeli people in anyway. We need to ask ourselves, how did we get here?

3 years before the Nazis rose to power, a Jewish phylosopher wrote a book about "Self Jewish hatred" ("Der jüdische Selbsthaß"). About autoantisemitism and rift between Jews. Sad that this book is still relevant today, when we read articles like the one of Yossi Klein. We should say thank you we didn't reach bloodshed, but is it how Israelis supposed to behave?

No. The true enemy of the Jewish people is what is known as "baseless hate". It is something I want to believe we can cure ourselves from. Starting by using words which are less hateful and more reaching.

I hope it's not too late for us.

Well I suppose everybody is entitled to their own opinion of anything.

There are of course 3 or 4 flavors of Jews these days --

- the ultra Orthodox

- the Conservative

- the Reform

- the uninterested in Religion who are merely culturally Jewish.

It's rather hard to pour all these into one bucket and expect to say anything intelligent about any and all of them.

Jews are really no different than Catholics or than Eastern Orthodox or even than many of the Protestant Evangelical's.

It is really the moosleem threat to the world and their foul perverted doctrines of 72 virgins for acts of mass murder that is the worst threat, actually.

Currently with moosleem attention on Europe that is somewhat of a relief on Israelis -- the silver lining to a very dark ominous cloud -- the moosleems.

Just curious if anyone knows what those '72 virgins' represent or a clue of how Muhammad got that idea?

Where did the Notion of 72 Virgins in Islamic Paradise Come from?

72 Virgins - WikiIslam

Reading all of that makes me think that they may get some viagra during their next trip through hell.

There is a local plant,zallouh, that acts like a natural viagra. I've heard it works very well. No personal knowledge

Some use lizard, ground to a powder, so I have heard

 

[Hossfly]

I, like hundreds of thousands of Israelis, felt appalled and disgusted by the op-ed published on "Ha'aretz" website, a couple of days ago.

The writer, Yossi Klein, used one of the most basic rights given to us, the freedom of speech, and delivered an article filled with hate, generalization and political-incorrectness. Unfortunately, it's not a rare event when public figures and people of culture, from different side of the ideological map, fall into the clutches of demonization. This time, the direct target of said demonizatrion was the religious Zionism.

Under the title of "Our Righteous Elite", Mr Klein spills his heart regarding what he believes, is the source of all wrong- religious Israeli Jews. He spares no words and sugarcoat nothing when saying, out for everyone to read, that religious Israeli Jews are worse than Hezbollah. Yes, the same Hezbollah that is responsible for killing many Israelis, Syrians, Europeans and Lebanese. The same Heazbollah that backs up Assad Regime and turned entire Lebanese cities into a battlefield, is less dangerous to the everyday Israelis than the horror that is the knitted Kippah.

"Yes, the natinalist religious citizens are dangerous. More dangerous than the Palestinian ramming-attackers, girls with scissors, more dangerous than Hezbollah. Arabs are legitimate target. Not so the religious Zionists.What is it that they want? to take over the state and make it Arab-rein. They know it's too soon to be so up-front. They will deny it if you ask, but don't believe them. Their National-religion is radical nationality, covered with the righteousness of fearing God."

He keeps saying that- "They will support delusional media laws, thieving gas organizations, teethless supreme court. They wrap the prime minister and his government around their fingers. They wink when speaking of democracy, but left speechless when reminded of the existance of human rights."

Sparing no words he continues, "Lies are their way of life, deciet is their principle. Democracy and human rights converted to Judaism long ago. Now say- rights for Jews alone."

He later concludes, "Is their any point of dialogue? No, it's too late now. There could have been, if their patriotism was to be separated from their Judaism. There is no bridge that can bring us together now."

Those were harsh words, dipped with poison and Sin'at Chinam, what we call- baseless hate. Ask any common Israeli, they could not deny the great contribution given to us be religious Zionists. They well pay their duties, come first in culture, science, important discoveries. They'll be the firsts to speak against injustice.

Yes they're more dangerous to the 'enlightened' and 'liberal' Israelis than the enemies from north and south. Ro'i Klein, an Israeli commander who jumped on a grenade to save the lives of fellow soldiers, is more dangerous than Hezbollah. Daphna Meir, a religious Zionists, mother of five adopted children, who fought for understanding between religious and secular women and was killed by a Palestinian teen, is more dangerous than Hezbollah.

This kind of hate, mixed with disinformation and prejudice, is something I don't understand. I just as well don't understand those who automatically call all liberal Israelis "traitors" or "Those who forgot the meaning of being Jews". Those who incite against homosexuals, or try to fight of women's rights in the army. All those type of conversations do not help the Israeli people in anyway. We need to ask ourselves, how did we get here?

3 years before the Nazis rose to power, a Jewish phylosopher wrote a book about "Self Jewish hatred" ("Der jüdische Selbsthaß"). About autoantisemitism and rift between Jews. Sad that this book is still relevant today, when we read articles like the one of Yossi Klein. We should say thank you we didn't reach bloodshed, but is it how Israelis supposed to behave?

No. The true enemy of the Jewish people is what is known as "baseless hate". It is something I want to believe we can cure ourselves from. Starting by using words which are less hateful and more reaching.

I hope it's not too late for us.

Well I suppose everybody is entitled to their own opinion of anything.

There are of course 3 or 4 flavors of Jews these days --

- the ultra Orthodox

- the Conservative

- the Reform

- the uninterested in Religion who are merely culturally Jewish.

It's rather hard to pour all these into one bucket and expect to say anything intelligent about any and all of them.

Jews are really no different than Catholics or than Eastern Orthodox or even than many of the Protestant Evangelical's.

It is really the moosleem threat to the world and their foul perverted doctrines of 72 virgins for acts of mass murder that is the worst threat, actually.

Currently with moosleem attention on Europe that is somewhat of a relief on Israelis -- the silver lining to a very dark ominous cloud -- the moosleems.

Just curious if anyone knows what those '72 virgins' represent or a clue of how Muhammad got that idea?

Where did the Notion of 72 Virgins in Islamic Paradise Come from?

72 Virgins - WikiIslam

Reading all of that makes me think that they may get some viagra during their next trip through hell.

A fellow could make a killing black marketing Viagra in Paradise.

 

[RodISHI]

I, like hundreds of thousands of Israelis, felt appalled and disgusted by the op-ed published on "Ha'aretz" website, a couple of days ago.

The writer, Yossi Klein, used one of the most basic rights given to us, the freedom of speech, and delivered an article filled with hate, generalization and political-incorrectness. Unfortunately, it's not a rare event when public figures and people of culture, from different side of the ideological map, fall into the clutches of demonization. This time, the direct target of said demonizatrion was the religious Zionism.

Under the title of "Our Righteous Elite", Mr Klein spills his heart regarding what he believes, is the source of all wrong- religious Israeli Jews. He spares no words and sugarcoat nothing when saying, out for everyone to read, that religious Israeli Jews are worse than Hezbollah. Yes, the same Hezbollah that is responsible for killing many Israelis, Syrians, Europeans and Lebanese. The same Heazbollah that backs up Assad Regime and turned entire Lebanese cities into a battlefield, is less dangerous to the everyday Israelis than the horror that is the knitted Kippah.

"Yes, the natinalist religious citizens are dangerous. More dangerous than the Palestinian ramming-attackers, girls with scissors, more dangerous than Hezbollah. Arabs are legitimate target. Not so the religious Zionists.What is it that they want? to take over the state and make it Arab-rein. They know it's too soon to be so up-front. They will deny it if you ask, but don't believe them. Their National-religion is radical nationality, covered with the righteousness of fearing God."

He keeps saying that- "They will support delusional media laws, thieving gas organizations, teethless supreme court. They wrap the prime minister and his government around their fingers. They wink when speaking of democracy, but left speechless when reminded of the existance of human rights."

Sparing no words he continues, "Lies are their way of life, deciet is their principle. Democracy and human rights converted to Judaism long ago. Now say- rights for Jews alone."

He later concludes, "Is their any point of dialogue? No, it's too late now. There could have been, if their patriotism was to be separated from their Judaism. There is no bridge that can bring us together now."

Those were harsh words, dipped with poison and Sin'at Chinam, what we call- baseless hate. Ask any common Israeli, they could not deny the great contribution given to us be religious Zionists. They well pay their duties, come first in culture, science, important discoveries. They'll be the firsts to speak against injustice.

Yes they're more dangerous to the 'enlightened' and 'liberal' Israelis than the enemies from north and south. Ro'i Klein, an Israeli commander who jumped on a grenade to save the lives of fellow soldiers, is more dangerous than Hezbollah. Daphna Meir, a religious Zionists, mother of five adopted children, who fought for understanding between religious and secular women and was killed by a Palestinian teen, is more dangerous than Hezbollah.

This kind of hate, mixed with disinformation and prejudice, is something I don't understand. I just as well don't understand those who automatically call all liberal Israelis "traitors" or "Those who forgot the meaning of being Jews". Those who incite against homosexuals, or try to fight of women's rights in the army. All those type of conversations do not help the Israeli people in anyway. We need to ask ourselves, how did we get here?

3 years before the Nazis rose to power, a Jewish phylosopher wrote a book about "Self Jewish hatred" ("Der jüdische Selbsthaß"). About autoantisemitism and rift between Jews. Sad that this book is still relevant today, when we read articles like the one of Yossi Klein. We should say thank you we didn't reach bloodshed, but is it how Israelis supposed to behave?

No. The true enemy of the Jewish people is what is known as "baseless hate". It is something I want to believe we can cure ourselves from. Starting by using words which are less hateful and more reaching.

I hope it's not too late for us.

Well I suppose everybody is entitled to their own opinion of anything.

There are of course 3 or 4 flavors of Jews these days --

- the ultra Orthodox

- the Conservative

- the Reform

- the uninterested in Religion who are merely culturally Jewish.

It's rather hard to pour all these into one bucket and expect to say anything intelligent about any and all of them.

Jews are really no different than Catholics or than Eastern Orthodox or even than many of the Protestant Evangelical's.

It is really the moosleem threat to the world and their foul perverted doctrines of 72 virgins for acts of mass murder that is the worst threat, actually.

Currently with moosleem attention on Europe that is somewhat of a relief on Israelis -- the silver lining to a very dark ominous cloud -- the moosleems.

Just curious if anyone knows what those '72 virgins' represent or a clue of how Muhammad got that idea?

Where did the Notion of 72 Virgins in Islamic Paradise Come from?

72 Virgins - WikiIslam

Reading all of that makes me think that they may get some viagra during their next trip through hell.

A fellow could make a killing black marketing Viagra in Paradise.

They do haven't you seen all those advertisements over the years on the net? It all happens right here where son of 'adam' and son of Man lives.

 

[Humanity]

I, like hundreds of thousands of Israelis, felt appalled and disgusted by the op-ed published on "Ha'aretz" website, a couple of days ago.

The writer, Yossi Klein, used one of the most basic rights given to us, the freedom of speech, and delivered an article filled with hate, generalization and political-incorrectness. Unfortunately, it's not a rare event when public figures and people of culture, from different side of the ideological map, fall into the clutches of demonization. This time, the direct target of said demonizatrion was the religious Zionism.

Under the title of "Our Righteous Elite", Mr Klein spills his heart regarding what he believes, is the source of all wrong- religious Israeli Jews. He spares no words and sugarcoat nothing when saying, out for everyone to read, that religious Israeli Jews are worse than Hezbollah. Yes, the same Hezbollah that is responsible for killing many Israelis, Syrians, Europeans and Lebanese. The same Heazbollah that backs up Assad Regime and turned entire Lebanese cities into a battlefield, is less dangerous to the everyday Israelis than the horror that is the knitted Kippah.

"Yes, the natinalist religious citizens are dangerous. More dangerous than the Palestinian ramming-attackers, girls with scissors, more dangerous than Hezbollah. Arabs are legitimate target. Not so the religious Zionists.What is it that they want? to take over the state and make it Arab-rein. They know it's too soon to be so up-front. They will deny it if you ask, but don't believe them. Their National-religion is radical nationality, covered with the righteousness of fearing God."

He keeps saying that- "They will support delusional media laws, thieving gas organizations, teethless supreme court. They wrap the prime minister and his government around their fingers. They wink when speaking of democracy, but left speechless when reminded of the existance of human rights."

Sparing no words he continues, "Lies are their way of life, deciet is their principle. Democracy and human rights converted to Judaism long ago. Now say- rights for Jews alone."

He later concludes, "Is their any point of dialogue? No, it's too late now. There could have been, if their patriotism was to be separated from their Judaism. There is no bridge that can bring us together now."

Those were harsh words, dipped with poison and Sin'at Chinam, what we call- baseless hate. Ask any common Israeli, they could not deny the great contribution given to us be religious Zionists. They well pay their duties, come first in culture, science, important discoveries. They'll be the firsts to speak against injustice.

Yes they're more dangerous to the 'enlightened' and 'liberal' Israelis than the enemies from north and south. Ro'i Klein, an Israeli commander who jumped on a grenade to save the lives of fellow soldiers, is more dangerous than Hezbollah. Daphna Meir, a religious Zionists, mother of five adopted children, who fought for understanding between religious and secular women and was killed by a Palestinian teen, is more dangerous than Hezbollah.

This kind of hate, mixed with disinformation and prejudice, is something I don't understand. I just as well don't understand those who automatically call all liberal Israelis "traitors" or "Those who forgot the meaning of being Jews". Those who incite against homosexuals, or try to fight of women's rights in the army. All those type of conversations do not help the Israeli people in anyway. We need to ask ourselves, how did we get here?

3 years before the Nazis rose to power, a Jewish phylosopher wrote a book about "Self Jewish hatred" ("Der jüdische Selbsthaß"). About autoantisemitism and rift between Jews. Sad that this book is still relevant today, when we read articles like the one of Yossi Klein. We should say thank you we didn't reach bloodshed, but is it how Israelis supposed to behave?

No. The true enemy of the Jewish people is what is known as "baseless hate". It is something I want to believe we can cure ourselves from. Starting by using words which are less hateful and more reaching.

I hope it's not too late for us.

Well I suppose everybody is entitled to their own opinion of anything.

There are of course 3 or 4 flavors of Jews these days --

- the ultra Orthodox

- the Conservative

- the Reform

- the uninterested in Religion who are merely culturally Jewish.

It's rather hard to pour all these into one bucket and expect to say anything intelligent about any and all of them.

Jews are really no different than Catholics or than Eastern Orthodox or even than many of the Protestant Evangelical's.

It is really the moosleem threat to the world and their foul perverted doctrines of 72 virgins for acts of mass murder that is the worst threat, actually.

Currently with moosleem attention on Europe that is somewhat of a relief on Israelis -- the silver lining to a very dark ominous cloud -- the moosleems.

Just curious if anyone knows what those '72 virgins' represent or a clue of how Muhammad got that idea?

Where did the Notion of 72 Virgins in Islamic Paradise Come from?

72 Virgins - WikiIslam

Both links are inaccurate and sensationalise the notion of "virgins"...

In the first link there is so much contradiction, that even contradicts the second link!!!

Utter nonsense and propaganda...

And anyone who believes this to be "72 virgins" is simply retarded!

 

[RodISHI]

I, like hundreds of thousands of Israelis, felt appalled and disgusted by the op-ed published on "Ha'aretz" website, a couple of days ago.

The writer, Yossi Klein, used one of the most basic rights given to us, the freedom of speech, and delivered an article filled with hate, generalization and political-incorrectness. Unfortunately, it's not a rare event when public figures and people of culture, from different side of the ideological map, fall into the clutches of demonization. This time, the direct target of said demonizatrion was the religious Zionism.

Under the title of "Our Righteous Elite", Mr Klein spills his heart regarding what he believes, is the source of all wrong- religious Israeli Jews. He spares no words and sugarcoat nothing when saying, out for everyone to read, that religious Israeli Jews are worse than Hezbollah. Yes, the same Hezbollah that is responsible for killing many Israelis, Syrians, Europeans and Lebanese. The same Heazbollah that backs up Assad Regime and turned entire Lebanese cities into a battlefield, is less dangerous to the everyday Israelis than the horror that is the knitted Kippah.

"Yes, the natinalist religious citizens are dangerous. More dangerous than the Palestinian ramming-attackers, girls with scissors, more dangerous than Hezbollah. Arabs are legitimate target. Not so the religious Zionists.What is it that they want? to take over the state and make it Arab-rein. They know it's too soon to be so up-front. They will deny it if you ask, but don't believe them. Their National-religion is radical nationality, covered with the righteousness of fearing God."

He keeps saying that- "They will support delusional media laws, thieving gas organizations, teethless supreme court. They wrap the prime minister and his government around their fingers. They wink when speaking of democracy, but left speechless when reminded of the existance of human rights."

Sparing no words he continues, "Lies are their way of life, deciet is their principle. Democracy and human rights converted to Judaism long ago. Now say- rights for Jews alone."

He later concludes, "Is their any point of dialogue? No, it's too late now. There could have been, if their patriotism was to be separated from their Judaism. There is no bridge that can bring us together now."

Those were harsh words, dipped with poison and Sin'at Chinam, what we call- baseless hate. Ask any common Israeli, they could not deny the great contribution given to us be religious Zionists. They well pay their duties, come first in culture, science, important discoveries. They'll be the firsts to speak against injustice.

Yes they're more dangerous to the 'enlightened' and 'liberal' Israelis than the enemies from north and south. Ro'i Klein, an Israeli commander who jumped on a grenade to save the lives of fellow soldiers, is more dangerous than Hezbollah. Daphna Meir, a religious Zionists, mother of five adopted children, who fought for understanding between religious and secular women and was killed by a Palestinian teen, is more dangerous than Hezbollah.

This kind of hate, mixed with disinformation and prejudice, is something I don't understand. I just as well don't understand those who automatically call all liberal Israelis "traitors" or "Those who forgot the meaning of being Jews". Those who incite against homosexuals, or try to fight of women's rights in the army. All those type of conversations do not help the Israeli people in anyway. We need to ask ourselves, how did we get here?

3 years before the Nazis rose to power, a Jewish phylosopher wrote a book about "Self Jewish hatred" ("Der jüdische Selbsthaß"). About autoantisemitism and rift between Jews. Sad that this book is still relevant today, when we read articles like the one of Yossi Klein. We should say thank you we didn't reach bloodshed, but is it how Israelis supposed to behave?

No. The true enemy of the Jewish people is what is known as "baseless hate". It is something I want to believe we can cure ourselves from. Starting by using words which are less hateful and more reaching.

I hope it's not too late for us.

Well I suppose everybody is entitled to their own opinion of anything.

There are of course 3 or 4 flavors of Jews these days --

- the ultra Orthodox

- the Conservative

- the Reform

- the uninterested in Religion who are merely culturally Jewish.

It's rather hard to pour all these into one bucket and expect to say anything intelligent about any and all of them.

Jews are really no different than Catholics or than Eastern Orthodox or even than many of the Protestant Evangelical's.

It is really the moosleem threat to the world and their foul perverted doctrines of 72 virgins for acts of mass murder that is the worst threat, actually.

Currently with moosleem attention on Europe that is somewhat of a relief on Israelis -- the silver lining to a very dark ominous cloud -- the moosleems.

Just curious if anyone knows what those '72 virgins' represent or a clue of how Muhammad got that idea?

Where did the Notion of 72 Virgins in Islamic Paradise Come from?

72 Virgins - WikiIslam

Both links are inaccurate and sensationalise the notion of "virgins"...

In the first link there is so much contradiction, that even contradicts the second link!!!

Utter nonsense and propaganda...

And anyone who believes this to be "72 virgins" is simply retarded!

So do you have any ideas to know where the idea came from as it is translated? Do you think the translation is screwed up or what?

 

[aris2chat]

I, like hundreds of thousands of Israelis, felt appalled and disgusted by the op-ed published on "Ha'aretz" website, a couple of days ago.

The writer, Yossi Klein, used one of the most basic rights given to us, the freedom of speech, and delivered an article filled with hate, generalization and political-incorrectness. Unfortunately, it's not a rare event when public figures and people of culture, from different side of the ideological map, fall into the clutches of demonization. This time, the direct target of said demonizatrion was the religious Zionism.

Under the title of "Our Righteous Elite", Mr Klein spills his heart regarding what he believes, is the source of all wrong- religious Israeli Jews. He spares no words and sugarcoat nothing when saying, out for everyone to read, that religious Israeli Jews are worse than Hezbollah. Yes, the same Hezbollah that is responsible for killing many Israelis, Syrians, Europeans and Lebanese. The same Heazbollah that backs up Assad Regime and turned entire Lebanese cities into a battlefield, is less dangerous to the everyday Israelis than the horror that is the knitted Kippah.

"Yes, the natinalist religious citizens are dangerous. More dangerous than the Palestinian ramming-attackers, girls with scissors, more dangerous than Hezbollah. Arabs are legitimate target. Not so the religious Zionists.What is it that they want? to take over the state and make it Arab-rein. They know it's too soon to be so up-front. They will deny it if you ask, but don't believe them. Their National-religion is radical nationality, covered with the righteousness of fearing God."

He keeps saying that- "They will support delusional media laws, thieving gas organizations, teethless supreme court. They wrap the prime minister and his government around their fingers. They wink when speaking of democracy, but left speechless when reminded of the existance of human rights."

Sparing no words he continues, "Lies are their way of life, deciet is their principle. Democracy and human rights converted to Judaism long ago. Now say- rights for Jews alone."

He later concludes, "Is their any point of dialogue? No, it's too late now. There could have been, if their patriotism was to be separated from their Judaism. There is no bridge that can bring us together now."

Those were harsh words, dipped with poison and Sin'at Chinam, what we call- baseless hate. Ask any common Israeli, they could not deny the great contribution given to us be religious Zionists. They well pay their duties, come first in culture, science, important discoveries. They'll be the firsts to speak against injustice.

Yes they're more dangerous to the 'enlightened' and 'liberal' Israelis than the enemies from north and south. Ro'i Klein, an Israeli commander who jumped on a grenade to save the lives of fellow soldiers, is more dangerous than Hezbollah. Daphna Meir, a religious Zionists, mother of five adopted children, who fought for understanding between religious and secular women and was killed by a Palestinian teen, is more dangerous than Hezbollah.

This kind of hate, mixed with disinformation and prejudice, is something I don't understand. I just as well don't understand those who automatically call all liberal Israelis "traitors" or "Those who forgot the meaning of being Jews". Those who incite against homosexuals, or try to fight of women's rights in the army. All those type of conversations do not help the Israeli people in anyway. We need to ask ourselves, how did we get here?

3 years before the Nazis rose to power, a Jewish phylosopher wrote a book about "Self Jewish hatred" ("Der jüdische Selbsthaß"). About autoantisemitism and rift between Jews. Sad that this book is still relevant today, when we read articles like the one of Yossi Klein. We should say thank you we didn't reach bloodshed, but is it how Israelis supposed to behave?

No. The true enemy of the Jewish people is what is known as "baseless hate". It is something I want to believe we can cure ourselves from. Starting by using words which are less hateful and more reaching.

I hope it's not too late for us.

Well I suppose everybody is entitled to their own opinion of anything.

There are of course 3 or 4 flavors of Jews these days --

- the ultra Orthodox

- the Conservative

- the Reform

- the uninterested in Religion who are merely culturally Jewish.

It's rather hard to pour all these into one bucket and expect to say anything intelligent about any and all of them.

Jews are really no different than Catholics or than Eastern Orthodox or even than many of the Protestant Evangelical's.

It is really the moosleem threat to the world and their foul perverted doctrines of 72 virgins for acts of mass murder that is the worst threat, actually.

Currently with moosleem attention on Europe that is somewhat of a relief on Israelis -- the silver lining to a very dark ominous cloud -- the moosleems.

Just curious if anyone knows what those '72 virgins' represent or a clue of how Muhammad got that idea?

Where did the Notion of 72 Virgins in Islamic Paradise Come from?

72 Virgins - WikiIslam

Both links are inaccurate and sensationalise the notion of "virgins"...

In the first link there is so much contradiction, that even contradicts the second link!!!

Utter nonsense and propaganda...

And anyone who believes this to be "72 virgins" is simply retarded!

Seventy-Two Virgins/Houris | Controversial Islam
Seventy-Two Virgins/Houris
Although there have been great many controversies about Islam on Usenet, there ... Shiah, have expressed some grave doubts about throughout Islamic history.
The Houris: Islam's 'Sexual Superwomen' | Frontpage Mag
www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/.../houris-islams-sexual-superwomen-raymond-ibrahim
Nov 24, 2016 - Muslim men die for them, Muslim women are jealous of them. ... problem is that Islam—from its history and doctrines, to the exhortation of its leaders, ... For an idea of how pervasive the Houri is inIslam, consider its impact on ...
Houri - Wikipedia
Houri - Wikipedia
In Islamic mythology, the houris or ḥūr or ḥūrīyah (Arabic: حورية ) are commonly translated as ..... This interpretation of kawa'ib overlooks the purely derivative origin of the above popular usage—which is based on the tropical connotation of ...
Houris, Heavenly Maidens in Islam - Muslim Hope
Houris, Heavenly Maidens in Islam
Muslim men who die as martyrs (fighting in battle or other deaths) are promised 72 (or sometimes 73) beautiful, black-eyed perpetual virgins as wives in heaven.


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[aris2chat]

I, like hundreds of thousands of Israelis, felt appalled and disgusted by the op-ed published on "Ha'aretz" website, a couple of days ago.

The writer, Yossi Klein, used one of the most basic rights given to us, the freedom of speech, and delivered an article filled with hate, generalization and political-incorrectness. Unfortunately, it's not a rare event when public figures and people of culture, from different side of the ideological map, fall into the clutches of demonization. This time, the direct target of said demonizatrion was the religious Zionism.

Under the title of "Our Righteous Elite", Mr Klein spills his heart regarding what he believes, is the source of all wrong- religious Israeli Jews. He spares no words and sugarcoat nothing when saying, out for everyone to read, that religious Israeli Jews are worse than Hezbollah. Yes, the same Hezbollah that is responsible for killing many Israelis, Syrians, Europeans and Lebanese. The same Heazbollah that backs up Assad Regime and turned entire Lebanese cities into a battlefield, is less dangerous to the everyday Israelis than the horror that is the knitted Kippah.

"Yes, the natinalist religious citizens are dangerous. More dangerous than the Palestinian ramming-attackers, girls with scissors, more dangerous than Hezbollah. Arabs are legitimate target. Not so the religious Zionists.What is it that they want? to take over the state and make it Arab-rein. They know it's too soon to be so up-front. They will deny it if you ask, but don't believe them. Their National-religion is radical nationality, covered with the righteousness of fearing God."

He keeps saying that- "They will support delusional media laws, thieving gas organizations, teethless supreme court. They wrap the prime minister and his government around their fingers. They wink when speaking of democracy, but left speechless when reminded of the existance of human rights."

Sparing no words he continues, "Lies are their way of life, deciet is their principle. Democracy and human rights converted to Judaism long ago. Now say- rights for Jews alone."

He later concludes, "Is their any point of dialogue? No, it's too late now. There could have been, if their patriotism was to be separated from their Judaism. There is no bridge that can bring us together now."

Those were harsh words, dipped with poison and Sin'at Chinam, what we call- baseless hate. Ask any common Israeli, they could not deny the great contribution given to us be religious Zionists. They well pay their duties, come first in culture, science, important discoveries. They'll be the firsts to speak against injustice.

Yes they're more dangerous to the 'enlightened' and 'liberal' Israelis than the enemies from north and south. Ro'i Klein, an Israeli commander who jumped on a grenade to save the lives of fellow soldiers, is more dangerous than Hezbollah. Daphna Meir, a religious Zionists, mother of five adopted children, who fought for understanding between religious and secular women and was killed by a Palestinian teen, is more dangerous than Hezbollah.

This kind of hate, mixed with disinformation and prejudice, is something I don't understand. I just as well don't understand those who automatically call all liberal Israelis "traitors" or "Those who forgot the meaning of being Jews". Those who incite against homosexuals, or try to fight of women's rights in the army. All those type of conversations do not help the Israeli people in anyway. We need to ask ourselves, how did we get here?

3 years before the Nazis rose to power, a Jewish phylosopher wrote a book about "Self Jewish hatred" ("Der jüdische Selbsthaß"). About autoantisemitism and rift between Jews. Sad that this book is still relevant today, when we read articles like the one of Yossi Klein. We should say thank you we didn't reach bloodshed, but is it how Israelis supposed to behave?

No. The true enemy of the Jewish people is what is known as "baseless hate". It is something I want to believe we can cure ourselves from. Starting by using words which are less hateful and more reaching.

I hope it's not too late for us.

Well I suppose everybody is entitled to their own opinion of anything.

There are of course 3 or 4 flavors of Jews these days --

- the ultra Orthodox

- the Conservative

- the Reform

- the uninterested in Religion who are merely culturally Jewish.

It's rather hard to pour all these into one bucket and expect to say anything intelligent about any and all of them.

Jews are really no different than Catholics or than Eastern Orthodox or even than many of the Protestant Evangelical's.

It is really the moosleem threat to the world and their foul perverted doctrines of 72 virgins for acts of mass murder that is the worst threat, actually.

Currently with moosleem attention on Europe that is somewhat of a relief on Israelis -- the silver lining to a very dark ominous cloud -- the moosleems.

Just curious if anyone knows what those '72 virgins' represent or a clue of how Muhammad got that idea?

Where did the Notion of 72 Virgins in Islamic Paradise Come from?

72 Virgins - WikiIslam

Both links are inaccurate and sensationalise the notion of "virgins"...

In the first link there is so much contradiction, that even contradicts the second link!!!

Utter nonsense and propaganda...

And anyone who believes this to be "72 virgins" is simply retarded!

So do you have any ideas to know where the idea came from as it is translated? Do you think the translation is screwed up or what?

the raisin theory was debunk more than a decade ago