The Tenth Amendment and the word “expressly”

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  1. C_Clayton_Jones
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    Actually not.

    Again, the Court has been consistent when addressing 10th Amendment claims: that the states are subordinate to acts of Congress and the rulings of Federal courts, which is also consistent with the doctrine of inalienable rights – rights that can be neither taken nor bestowed by any government, constitution, or man, including state governments.

    It is inconsistent to assume that the Federal government alone is prohibited from violating citizens' rights, while at the same time allowing the states to do just that.

    Inalienable rights are indeed inalienable – immune from attack by all governments: Federal, state, and local.
     
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    I am well aware of all this.

    Was there a point you wanted to make ?
     
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    Nobody assumed anything.

    You are clearly part of the clique on this board that likes to make things up to argue against.
     
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    Nobody said anything about ignoring Federal laws.

    That is why we have the SCOTUS.

    This discussion is about the omission of a word.
     
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    Then why did you bother to post the thread ?

    This solves nothing, except in your own mind.
     
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    I pointed it out.

    There is clearly a message in what Madison posted. There is nothing ambiguous about his statement about the powers going the federal government.

    At the same time, I am very aware that the country is not currently there. It didn't start out from the beginning.

    However, once Roosevelt got his way, the flood gates opened.....

    We are there...I've never argued that wasn't the case.

    But Madison's message can't be misconstrued.

    Combined with the 10th, there is nothing ambiguous about it.
     
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    If you want to debate Marshall, start another thread.

    Rosen...the guy who supported Kagen ? That Rosen ?

    No thanks.

    Like I said, if you want to debate Marshall (in general), start another thread.

    For now, it is quite clear to me that expressly has no meaning here.

    The rest of my post stands.

    Justices still claim there is a limit to what the Federal Government can do.
     
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    If you like talking to yourself, you can keep at it.

    I'll make those claims and if you don't like them, you can say so.

    Taking license to attack in a thread like this will only get you silence.

    If having all 10 threads all posted by you and pretty much only addressed by your buddies is your goal.....then apparently you are there.
     
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    You're pulling the same thing with Clayton you pulled with Dante.

    you're trolling while acting as if you have points to make
     
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    there you go again...

    you troll and then accuse people of making up things to argue about.

    do you have any friends or acquaintances out there in the real world that actually listen or talk to you?
     
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