The stupidity of all of this...

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    After we have seen that the govt. response has failed on all levels after Hurricane Katrina an "investigation" is now being planned to see what went wrong. I'll tell you what went wrong. Government is stupid and inefficient and you can't trust them to get anything right. And now to the stupid part. After our govt. has failed politicians will no doubt tell us that we need MORE govt. and not less only making things worse. And the bad thing is most people are stupid enough to believe that they are right and there is about an 80% chance that this disaster will lend itself to the expansion of govt. when that is the last thing it should be doing.
     
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    hmm, I ll give you a German example that I think examplifies
    the problems of a big federal government

    There was a flooding of Hamburg a huge 4 million city in the early70s
    Helmut Schmidt was the mayor of the city.

    He avoided the usual beuraucratic steps and activated
    an effective first response overstepping his powers.

    Because of the crisis all agencies complied. By all accounts
    he did a terrific job and later became chancellor of Germany.

    In the complex government system non action is often rewarded
    over failure. It takes a leader to pull the strings.
     
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    I agree and disagree. I was just reading something you might find interesting:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles_print.php?article_id=4797

    con't 2nd post
     
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    2nd post, con't:

     
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    I think political responsibilty even if it can degenerate in the blame
    game is important to keep government semi efficient.

    If you run a capitalistic company you look at the results.

    The feds, and state messed up, I want pressure on the officials
    so next time we have a more effective system. By all accounts
    No was a failure.

    This is not about party lines.

    The lawlessness is to blame for one one the lawless and on the
    state for failing to position the National Guard. I am convinced
    the govenour of the state has to be taken out of office.

    I am lenient on the city because the size of the catostrophe
    probably was not managable, still I want a review if major
    mistakes were made.

    The policemen that handed in their badge should get no
    retirement and similar benefits.

    Those who dont perform in a crisis a worthless.
     
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    I agree with most of the above. The people will judge the politicians. As for head of FEMA, that is Bush's job, he has the people to evaluate what happened there, if anything.

    I wholeheartedly agree with the police assessment. Granted, I think the police department had issues prior to the flood, seems they were seriously understaffed. It is reasonable to assume they were traumatized by the sheer enormity of what was transpiring, yet they did not rise to the occassion, while many of their fellow officers did.
     
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    Kathianne - excellent article. Unfortunately, certain segments of the population will not agree with it, let alone read it.

    It is much easier to wallow in misery and blame than to do something to further yourself.
     

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