The scandal over Health Secretary Tom Price's private charter flights

[Harry Dresden]

What a damn phony Tom Price is.

The scandal over Health Secretary Tom Price's private charter flights, explained

Tom Price, President Trump’s Health and Human Services secretary, entered his office under a cloud of ethics questions, dogged by a string of eyebrow-raising investments into pharmaceutical companies during his time as a Congress member.

Now the Georgia Republican is enduring a new round of inquiries about his unprecedented use of private jets for official travel since he joined the Cabinet.

According to a series of reports from Politico, Price has traveled by private plane at least two dozen times as HHS secretary, racking up a bill of $300,000. This was a sharp departure from his predecessors under the Obama administration, Politico noted, who usually flew commercial. Ethics experts have questioned the propriety of such trips.

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My, what a damn phony YOU are.


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What an idiot you are.

This fails as a red herring fallacy.

The thread is about Price and yet another scandal in the scandal-ridden Trump ‘administration.’

jones calling you an idiot....how does that make you feel west?....do you think he will reply to whatever you say?....

 

[westwall]

What a damn phony Tom Price is.

The scandal over Health Secretary Tom Price's private charter flights, explained

Tom Price, President Trump’s Health and Human Services secretary, entered his office under a cloud of ethics questions, dogged by a string of eyebrow-raising investments into pharmaceutical companies during his time as a Congress member.

Now the Georgia Republican is enduring a new round of inquiries about his unprecedented use of private jets for official travel since he joined the Cabinet.

According to a series of reports from Politico, Price has traveled by private plane at least two dozen times as HHS secretary, racking up a bill of $300,000. This was a sharp departure from his predecessors under the Obama administration, Politico noted, who usually flew commercial. Ethics experts have questioned the propriety of such trips.

<more>

My, what a damn phony YOU are.


The high price of impatience: Michelle jets off to Hawaii with the kids for 17 day vacation before the President can leave ... at a cost of $100,000 to the taxpayer

Read more: Obama family jet off to Hawaii separately at a cost of $100,000 to the taxpayer | Daily Mail Online
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You guys can't bring up Presidential travel anymore. You know that, right?

Trump is on track to spend $1 Billion on flying around, should he last all 4 years.

The point was it was unnecessary, and it happened a lot. Furthermore, the military jets are quite costly to fly. I would make a bet that flying charter is cheaper. And by quite a bit.

 

[JimBowie1958]

 

[theDoctorisIn]

What a damn phony Tom Price is.

The scandal over Health Secretary Tom Price's private charter flights, explained

Tom Price, President Trump’s Health and Human Services secretary, entered his office under a cloud of ethics questions, dogged by a string of eyebrow-raising investments into pharmaceutical companies during his time as a Congress member.

Now the Georgia Republican is enduring a new round of inquiries about his unprecedented use of private jets for official travel since he joined the Cabinet.

According to a series of reports from Politico, Price has traveled by private plane at least two dozen times as HHS secretary, racking up a bill of $300,000. This was a sharp departure from his predecessors under the Obama administration, Politico noted, who usually flew commercial. Ethics experts have questioned the propriety of such trips.

<more>

My, what a damn phony YOU are.


The high price of impatience: Michelle jets off to Hawaii with the kids for 17 day vacation before the President can leave ... at a cost of $100,000 to the taxpayer

Read more: Obama family jet off to Hawaii separately at a cost of $100,000 to the taxpayer | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

You guys can't bring up Presidential travel anymore. You know that, right?

Trump is on track to spend $1 Billion on flying around, should he last all 4 years.

The point was it was unnecessary, and it happened a lot. Furthermore, the military jets are quite costly to fly. I would make a bet that flying charter is cheaper. And by quite a bit.

It's been procedure for the Speaker to fly Air Force since 9/11. They're 3rd in succession.

As a side note, the C-20B is just a Gulfstream III. Factor in that the crew is military, and there's a lot less overhead, and it's almost certainly cheaper than renting the same jet from a commercial charter.

You should feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, btw. I accept that you have much more experience with this sort of thing.

 

[Political Junky]

What a damn phony Tom Price is.

The scandal over Health Secretary Tom Price's private charter flights, explained

Tom Price, President Trump’s Health and Human Services secretary, entered his office under a cloud of ethics questions, dogged by a string of eyebrow-raising investments into pharmaceutical companies during his time as a Congress member.

Now the Georgia Republican is enduring a new round of inquiries about his unprecedented use of private jets for official travel since he joined the Cabinet.

According to a series of reports from Politico, Price has traveled by private plane at least two dozen times as HHS secretary, racking up a bill of $300,000. This was a sharp departure from his predecessors under the Obama administration, Politico noted, who usually flew commercial. Ethics experts have questioned the propriety of such trips.

<more>

My, what a damn phony YOU are.


The high price of impatience: Michelle jets off to Hawaii with the kids for 17 day vacation before the President can leave ... at a cost of $100,000 to the taxpayer

Read more: Obama family jet off to Hawaii separately at a cost of $100,000 to the taxpayer | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

You guys can't bring up Presidential travel anymore. You know that, right?

Trump is on track to spend $1 Billion on flying around, should he last all 4 years.

The point was it was unnecessary, and it happened a lot. Furthermore, the military jets are quite costly to fly. I would make a bet that flying charter is cheaper. And by quite a bit.

As are Trump's trips to his resorts.

 

[westwall]

What a damn phony Tom Price is.

The scandal over Health Secretary Tom Price's private charter flights, explained

Tom Price, President Trump’s Health and Human Services secretary, entered his office under a cloud of ethics questions, dogged by a string of eyebrow-raising investments into pharmaceutical companies during his time as a Congress member.

Now the Georgia Republican is enduring a new round of inquiries about his unprecedented use of private jets for official travel since he joined the Cabinet.

According to a series of reports from Politico, Price has traveled by private plane at least two dozen times as HHS secretary, racking up a bill of $300,000. This was a sharp departure from his predecessors under the Obama administration, Politico noted, who usually flew commercial. Ethics experts have questioned the propriety of such trips.

<more>

My, what a damn phony YOU are.


The high price of impatience: Michelle jets off to Hawaii with the kids for 17 day vacation before the President can leave ... at a cost of $100,000 to the taxpayer

Read more: Obama family jet off to Hawaii separately at a cost of $100,000 to the taxpayer | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

You guys can't bring up Presidential travel anymore. You know that, right?

Trump is on track to spend $1 Billion on flying around, should he last all 4 years.

The point was it was unnecessary, and it happened a lot. Furthermore, the military jets are quite costly to fly. I would make a bet that flying charter is cheaper. And by quite a bit.

It's been procedure for the Speaker to fly Air Force since 9/11. They're 3rd in succession.

As a side note, the C-20B is just a Gulfstream III. Factor in that the crew is military, and there's a lot less overhead, and it's almost certainly cheaper than renting the same jet from a commercial charter.

You should feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, btw. I accept that you have much more experience with this sort of thing.

The G III is FAR more expensive to fly than the newer G IV and V. They are maintenance hogs. Fuel consumption is much higher as well, IIRC they burn 20-25% (Rolls Royce Spey engines are thirsty and LOUD!) more than the G IV. The G V is even more frugal, quieter too. But, nancy demanded she fly on the 757. Not a cheap flight at all.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

What a damn phony Tom Price is.

The scandal over Health Secretary Tom Price's private charter flights, explained

Tom Price, President Trump’s Health and Human Services secretary, entered his office under a cloud of ethics questions, dogged by a string of eyebrow-raising investments into pharmaceutical companies during his time as a Congress member.

Now the Georgia Republican is enduring a new round of inquiries about his unprecedented use of private jets for official travel since he joined the Cabinet.

According to a series of reports from Politico, Price has traveled by private plane at least two dozen times as HHS secretary, racking up a bill of $300,000. This was a sharp departure from his predecessors under the Obama administration, Politico noted, who usually flew commercial. Ethics experts have questioned the propriety of such trips.

<more>

My, what a damn phony YOU are.


The high price of impatience: Michelle jets off to Hawaii with the kids for 17 day vacation before the President can leave ... at a cost of $100,000 to the taxpayer

Read more: Obama family jet off to Hawaii separately at a cost of $100,000 to the taxpayer | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

You guys can't bring up Presidential travel anymore. You know that, right?

Trump is on track to spend $1 Billion on flying around, should he last all 4 years.

The point was it was unnecessary, and it happened a lot. Furthermore, the military jets are quite costly to fly. I would make a bet that flying charter is cheaper. And by quite a bit.

It's been procedure for the Speaker to fly Air Force since 9/11. They're 3rd in succession.

As a side note, the C-20B is just a Gulfstream III. Factor in that the crew is military, and there's a lot less overhead, and it's almost certainly cheaper than renting the same jet from a commercial charter.

You should feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, btw. I accept that you have much more experience with this sort of thing.

The G III is FAR more expensive to fly than the newer G IV and V. They are maintenance hogs. Fuel consumption is much higher as well, IIRC they burn 20-25% (Rolls Royce Spey engines are thirsty and LOUD!) more than the G IV. The G V is even more frugal, quieter too. But, nancy demanded she fly on the 757. Not a cheap flight at all.

Well, to be honest, some of the C-20Bs are G IVs, too. I picked the lower number because I don't really know what I'm talking about.

But the whole thing about Pelosi "demanding" the C-32, that's not really true. As far as I've been able to find, she's only ever flown on the C-32 once, when it was the only plane available.

 

[Political Junky]

Pelosi requested nothing .. the government decided which was safer for the Speaker, just as they decide for Ryan.

 

[westwall]

My, what a damn phony YOU are.


The high price of impatience: Michelle jets off to Hawaii with the kids for 17 day vacation before the President can leave ... at a cost of $100,000 to the taxpayer

Read more: Obama family jet off to Hawaii separately at a cost of $100,000 to the taxpayer | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

You guys can't bring up Presidential travel anymore. You know that, right?

Trump is on track to spend $1 Billion on flying around, should he last all 4 years.

The point was it was unnecessary, and it happened a lot. Furthermore, the military jets are quite costly to fly. I would make a bet that flying charter is cheaper. And by quite a bit.

It's been procedure for the Speaker to fly Air Force since 9/11. They're 3rd in succession.

As a side note, the C-20B is just a Gulfstream III. Factor in that the crew is military, and there's a lot less overhead, and it's almost certainly cheaper than renting the same jet from a commercial charter.

You should feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, btw. I accept that you have much more experience with this sort of thing.

The G III is FAR more expensive to fly than the newer G IV and V. They are maintenance hogs. Fuel consumption is much higher as well, IIRC they burn 20-25% (Rolls Royce Spey engines are thirsty and LOUD!) more than the G IV. The G V is even more frugal, quieter too. But, nancy demanded she fly on the 757. Not a cheap flight at all.

Well, to be honest, some of the C-20Bs are G IVs, too. I picked the lower number because I don't really know what I'm talking about.

But the whole thing about Pelosi "demanding" the C-32, that's not really true. As far as I've been able to find, she's only ever flown on the C-32 once, when it was the only plane available.

"Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has obtained new documents from the United States Air Force detailing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s repeated use of United States Air Force aircraft. According to the documents, obtained by Judicial Watch through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), Pelosi used Air Force aircraft on 85 flights from March 2009 through June 2010. Members of Pelosi’s family were guests on at least two flights.

Among the highlights from the documents, obtained pursuant to a FOIA request filed on January 25, 2009:

• Pelosi used the Air Force aircraft for a total of 85 trips, covering 206,264 miles, from March 2, 2009 through June 7, 2010. Pelosi, her guests and Air Force personnel logged a total of 428.6 hours on these flights.
• Members of Pelosi’s family were guests on at least two flights. On June 20, 2009, Speaker Pelosi’s daughter, son-in-law and two grandsons joined a flight from Andrews Air Force Base to San Francisco International Air Port. That flight included $143 in on-flight expenses for food and other items. On July 2, 2010, Pelosi took her grandson on a flight from Andrews Air Force Base to Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield, California, which is northeast of San Francisco.

According to previous documents uncovered by Judicial Watch, the Speaker’s military travel cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 over a two-year period — $101,429.14 of which was for in-flight expenses, including food and alcohol. For example, purchases for one Pelosi-led congressional delegation traveling from Washington, DC, through Tel Aviv, Israel to Baghdad, Iraq May 15-20, 2008 included: Johnny Walker Red scotch, Grey Goose vodka, E&J brandy, Bailey’s Irish Crème, Maker’s Mark whiskey, Courvoisier cognac, Bacardi Light rum, Jim Beam whiskey, Beefeater gin, Dewar’s scotch, Bombay Sapphire gin, Jack Daniels whiskey, Corona beer and several bottles of wine."

Judicial Watch Uncovers New Documents Detailing Pelosi's Use of Air Force Aircraft - Judicial Watch

 

[westwall]

Pelosi requested nothing .. the government decided which was safer for the Speaker, just as they decide for Ryan.

Might want to check your facts there.

 

[jon_berzerk]

^^^unlikely^^^

 

[Rambunctious]

By the way, Air Force transportation has been a perk of the Speakership since 9/11. Paul Ryan takes that jet every weekend, too

She is not speaker any longer Doc...

 

[theDoctorisIn]

By the way, Air Force transportation has been a perk of the Speakership since 9/11. Paul Ryan takes that jet every weekend, too

She is not speaker any longer Doc...

She doesn't fly on Air Force jets anymore, either.

 

[Rambunctious]

She doesn't fly on Air Force jets anymore, either

That's good because this is a bit over the top;

 

[Political Junky]

She doesn't fly on Air Force jets anymore, either

That's good because this is a bit over the top;

^^ 5th Grader messing around.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Nancy Pelosi flies federal jets back and forth to her district every weekend. Don't bring Price up without bringing Pelosi up or you just look like a political hypocritical hack.

Nancy Pelosi flies on government jets. Tom Price charters bizjets.

There's quite a cost difference there.

But it's funny that you bring up Pelosi, since Tom Price seemed to agree with you quite publicly, back in the day.

By the way, Air Force transportation has been a perk of the Speakership since 9/11. Paul Ryan takes that jet every weekend, too.

The main issue with Pelousy was that she wanted a bigger jet that could fly all the way without a refueling stop.

 

[Political Junky]

And Now Here's A Picture Of Paul Ryan's Plane

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And Now Here's A Picture Of Paul Ryan's Plane

Nice tray!

Epic Fail!