The Saudis Are Not Friends of the West

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  1. Annie
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    I wouldn't pretend to understand the machinations of the regime or country. For the most part it appears that diplomatically they wish to be considered 'moderate' for the ME, conservative regarding religion. They do not treat non-royals well, they use slavery. They are not our friends. Several links at site and there's alot more all over the web by others:

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTU1YWI5NWI4MWMyYmI0ZTdlYzE2YzA1MjI2MzZmZTA=

     
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    Oh HELL no they're not our friends! Our presence there all these years can be summed up with the phrase, "It's ALL about oil". And they screw us on that too...OPEC.
     
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    I agree and the citizens, non-royals, truly hate us. What pisses me off is all the capitulation by the West, whether US or something like Cambridge Press.
     
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    All of those ME countries that claim to be our friends have a ruling class, and the impoverished. The pretend to be our friends so we'll bail them out like we did Kuwait.
     
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    Kuwait then and now makes Saudis look extremists.
     
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    Those so-called "Royal" families are land grabbers anyway. The House of Saud is despised by many other Arabs. The Saudis are mediaevelist Wahabbists. Public executions for breaches of Sharia law.
     
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    No matter how much we try to quantify the behavioristic aspects of the saudis or the mentalistic aspects of islam and how it relates to democracy, we will never be accepted in the few nations that have not jumped on the democratic global bandwagon. Eventually the entire world and every nation will be some sort of democracy but, converting to that form of government in the middle east, is equivalent to oppression, if your an extremist. So alot of the times, democracy is put in place just to do buisness, but the true extremists will never accept anything western other than their money and/or weapons. Why? Because they want to be free to manipulate anyone who can be manipulated. Its theological greed. Wanting god all for yourself and your group, hating those who dont want him so much, and eventually... Killing those who dare to ask you to take the focus off of him for a minute.
     
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    And this surprises you because...? A significant amount of funding for the Sunni insurgents in Iraq comes from Saudi Arabia. The majority of the suicide bombers in Iraq are foreign nationals and most of those from Saudi Arabia. Tis latter being a benefit to the Saudi royal family as it siphons off radicals that would otherwise be blowing themselves up in Riyadh and on the doorsteps of the House of Saud. The radicalism of wahabism lies at the root of Al Qaeda's radicalism.

    Saudi Arabia is playing, and has always played, its own game. And America's unwillingness to give up its dependence on the oil teat have made it a player in that game. In Iraq, we are now seeing the true cost of sitting at the table in that game.
     
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    Where are you getting the stats on the nationality of these homocide bombers ?
     
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    In agreement twice in two weeks? People are gonna talk ya know.
     

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