Mr. Shaman
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- May 4, 2010
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Now as I am not 250 years old, I do not know if this is the same way it always was in our political environment, that this is basically the status quo over 2 and a half centuries of bilateral politics. Maybe the internet has allowed for a more anonymous and vicous type of political commentator to flourish, and this has had an influence on more mainstream media types. Has our political arena gotten meaner? Are we as a people incapable of seeing someone holding a differing opinion than ours as holding a valid, albeit wrong, point?
Good topic!!!
I'd considered starting a similar-one, but it would-have-been (more) an effort to establish a reference-point....when all this "Civil Discourse" started. My background in engineering drives me to find that (most-recent) "default"-point....before a(ny) process goes awry/"belly-up"....in-order-to find/develop the "fix".
Typically, this process "conflicts" with the Sales-And-Marketing folks, who're too-much in a hurry to release that next, New product....rather-than (actually) dealing with field-failures/customer-complaints; i.e. providing customers what they'd paid-for. Sales-And-Marketing people are well-representative of others (within any organization), who find the nuts-and-bolts of "doing the right thing" too-laborious....not sexy-enough to keep them engaged.
It's my contention (from actual-experience/personal reference-point) that Ronald Reagan initiated the present/sophomoric "Civil Discourse"....when he responded "There you go, again.", during his debate with Jimmy Carter.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi9y5-Vo61w[/ame]
Reagan was THE first politician, I'd ever seen....at the Presidential-level....who made every-effort to marginalize his opponent....personally....rather-than (simply) disagree with his opponent's position. Ever since....politicians have (consistently) made every-effort to raise-the-bar, employing that same immature/sophomoric-tactic. More-often-than-not....and, more-recently (relatively-speaking)....that tactic has been employed to disguise/distract-from politicians' inability to think-thru any (actual) problems....let alone, come-up with a solution.
You'd be hard-pressed....to find ANY-other incident (at the Presidential-level), before the Carter/Reagan-debate....where such Reaganesque-tactics were employed. Richard Nixon was not stupid....he was scary....and, more-than-a-little paranoid....but, even HE never stooped to such immature/infantile-tactics!!!!
Sarah Palin is (merely) the most-recent DISTRACTION (Brought to you, by the NeoCons)....much like Ronald Reagan was. Hell, it's already a proven-tactic....for the benefit of those too-damned-lazy to see Politics as nothing-more than entertainment.
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Ya' REALLY want this Country run, like a bu$ine$$?????
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtK_YsVInw8[/ame]
I'd considered starting a similar-one, but it would-have-been (more) an effort to establish a reference-point....when all this "Civil Discourse" started. My background in engineering drives me to find that (most-recent) "default"-point....before a(ny) process goes awry/"belly-up"....in-order-to find/develop the "fix".
Typically, this process "conflicts" with the Sales-And-Marketing folks, who're too-much in a hurry to release that next, New product....rather-than (actually) dealing with field-failures/customer-complaints; i.e. providing customers what they'd paid-for. Sales-And-Marketing people are well-representative of others (within any organization), who find the nuts-and-bolts of "doing the right thing" too-laborious....not sexy-enough to keep them engaged.
It's my contention (from actual-experience/personal reference-point) that Ronald Reagan initiated the present/sophomoric "Civil Discourse"....when he responded "There you go, again.", during his debate with Jimmy Carter.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi9y5-Vo61w[/ame]
Reagan was THE first politician, I'd ever seen....at the Presidential-level....who made every-effort to marginalize his opponent....personally....rather-than (simply) disagree with his opponent's position. Ever since....politicians have (consistently) made every-effort to raise-the-bar, employing that same immature/sophomoric-tactic. More-often-than-not....and, more-recently (relatively-speaking)....that tactic has been employed to disguise/distract-from politicians' inability to think-thru any (actual) problems....let alone, come-up with a solution.
You'd be hard-pressed....to find ANY-other incident (at the Presidential-level), before the Carter/Reagan-debate....where such Reaganesque-tactics were employed. Richard Nixon was not stupid....he was scary....and, more-than-a-little paranoid....but, even HE never stooped to such immature/infantile-tactics!!!!
Sarah Palin is (merely) the most-recent DISTRACTION (Brought to you, by the NeoCons)....much like Ronald Reagan was. Hell, it's already a proven-tactic....for the benefit of those too-damned-lazy to see Politics as nothing-more than entertainment.
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Ya' REALLY want this Country run, like a bu$ine$$?????
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtK_YsVInw8[/ame]
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