Truthmatters
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did the OP note the cheering crowds of residents when the police got their man?
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did the OP note the cheering crowds of residents when the police got their man?
Those are the real but unsung heroes of the event. The gold medal goes to video technology, without which those two would still be laying bombs.[...]
Special credit to the image processing crews & analysts, they must have burned through coffee & pizzas right through from the Marathon to the capture.
Presuming the familar movie situation in which the fugitive is holding a gun to the head of a hostage, your job is to send the police away -- not invite them in and trigger a killing field.It is a bit of a conundrum though. The perpetrator could be hiding anywhere and in fact be holding a family hostage.[...]
Presuming the familar movie situation in which the fugitive is holding a gun to the head of a hostage, your job is to send the police away -- not invite them in and trigger a killing field.It is a bit of a conundrum though. The perpetrator could be hiding anywhere and in fact be holding a family hostage.[...]
Aside from that, imagine you are a former Recon Marine and a well-armed retired cop with years of experience in gang control and you have a huge pet rottweiler. Do you need anyone to examine your home to find out if a terrorist is hiding there? I don't think so.
At the opposite end of that hypothetical extreme is the 80 year-old widow who lives alone, is hard of hearing, hasn't been in her attic or cellar in years, and is oblivious to the manhunt going on.
What position between those two extremes do you occupy?
Presuming the familar movie situation in which the fugitive is holding a gun to the head of a hostage, your job is to send the police away -- not invite them in and trigger a killing field.It is a bit of a conundrum though. The perpetrator could be hiding anywhere and in fact be holding a family hostage.[...]
Aside from that, imagine you are a former Recon Marine and a well-armed retired cop with years of experience in gang control and you have a huge pet rottweiler. Do you need anyone to examine your home to find out if a terrorist is hiding there? I don't think so.
At the opposite end of that hypothetical extreme is the 80 year-old widow who lives alone, is hard of hearing, hasn't been in her attic or cellar in years, and is oblivious to the manhunt going on.
What position between those two extremes do you occupy?
I hope I occupy the one of common sense. A community can either cooperate with the police and let them do their jobs in a highly stressful, extremely potentially dangerous and deadly situation, or they can stick their jaws out and fold their arms and stand on a Constitutional amendment as more important than their neighbor's safety. There is a huge difference between the situation in Watertown and in a neighborhood sweep looking for illegal contraband or some such. In the latter case, no the police don't get in without a warrant. But when my interest in catching a perpetrator such as the Boston bomber is equal to theirs, yeah, I'm gonna help them catch him.
did the OP note the cheering crowds of residents when the police got their man?
Police Officers Search Private Homes in Boston For Bomber & they did not find him. Citizens found him in an area police had already searched. What were the police searching for? Had citizens been told to sweep their own property & check on their neighbors this could have been over in minutes.
Police Officers Search Private Homes in Boston For Bomber & they did not find him. Citizens found him in an area police had already searched. What were the police searching for? Had citizens been told to sweep their own property & check on their neighbors this could have been over in minutes.
Police State in America
God dang you people are stupid. Criminals get away all the time....only to be spotted by a good citizen and then caught by cops.
Why?
There are 800,000 cops in the US vs 300,000,000 residents.
There is less than 1 cop for every 300 residents.
Obviously, there will be a lot of times when the 300 see something that the 1 missed.
grow up. what they did was to protect innocent people. Martial law is something quite different.
If they forced their way into a house without a warrant and without permission, they broke the law.
Has anyone claimed that they did that?
If they forced their way into a house without a warrant and without permission, they broke the law.
Has anyone claimed that they did that?
No.
Well I am glad you would have allowed them to. But the people I know who lived here said no you don't need to come in. I think I would know if there was a terrorist wandering aroung around my house.
One of the most compelling provocations for the American Revolution was the routine practice of British Regulars conducting house-to-house searches of Colonial homes, looking for prohibited weapons and evidence of illegal commerce and tax evasion.Sit down and shut up, prole.
You trying to let the turrists win?
The one that casually walked out of the big bad perimeter while the good guys were dicking around with kicking peoples' doors open at 6 am?
grow up. what they did was to protect innocent people. Martial law is something quite different.
If they forced their way into a house without a warrant and without permission, they broke the law.
Has anyone claimed that they did that?
It's only unjust Martial Law (violation of the Third Amendment) if the people (via their local legislatures) pass a resolution declaring for the Soldiers and Police to leave, which would deny Consent (as stated in the Third Amendment) to the establishment of a police state.
I have thought about it though.
The better question is whether or not the Fourth Amendment has been violated with forced entry by the law enforcement. However, I don't think a jury would ever convict law enforcement officials for violating the Fourth Amendment in this scenario (The Jury is the best judge of the Constitution), so I'll have to say no.
Has anyone claimed that they did that?
Did you not see the SWAT teams going house by house this morning?
Yes, I saw them knocking on doors. I didn't see any doors being broken down, did you?