The real environmental problems.

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    Everyday we have more headlines telling us of catastrophic global warming. Every time you turn around they say this or that is evidence of it, and that this bit of weather here and now is indicative of climate. Yet if any non-believers try and point out that this or that cold weather spell is proof that there is no warming climate, and they will lose their minds trying to attack them.

    Want the truth? Plain and simple there are soon to be 7 billion people on this planet and that is just too many. Thats going to be 7 billion people who will all want a SUV and a big house with a yard and big screen tv's. & billion polluting, 7 billion breathing, 7 billion crapping and all of it will require resources that are getting more scarce by the minute.

    The world cannot support a continued population growth like this, and if they all develop to the level of the First world countries, it will support even less.

    Want to know why they continue on with the warming doom and gloom despite the science failing to make the case day after day? Because if they came out and said we got to have population control they fear the people would call them elitists and shun them. No one would want some governmental decree for controlled birthrates or decisions made on who or what people or nation get the dwindling resources. SO they call it climate change so it can get warm or cold and its still proof, and limit the amount of fossil fuel use by countries that use the most and the least alike. The UN prevents many countries in Africa from making more coal burning electric plants (a resource they have in abundance) and forces them to use alternative sources. Like a solar panel for a hospital serving 100's of miles that only allows them to operate a fridge to store the medicine in OR a incubator but not both.

    They limit us to so much fossil fuel use a year its one thing, but limiting Africa or India which are budding into their own is another. The reality of Kyoto and the accords for reducing greenhouse gas emissions will result in massive deaths in the third world countries and limit their growth and ability to reach 1st world status.

    Claiming CO2 is a climate driver despite the science showing it is an effect of warming, and limiting peoples access to fossil fuels to prevent the natural occurring and important gas for our ecosystem is nothing more than population control.

    And whats the most disturbing about all of this is who exactly is deciding this? Look up The Club of Rome and the Sierra Club, and then look into the UN agenda 21 and global biodiversity project and see if you recognize some of the same concepts and even people involved. Then ask yourself who are they to decide for all of us....
     
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    LOL. Yes, the world's population is well above what it should be. And many scientists have noted that and stated that the affect of climate change will excaberate that problem, and reduce the population in a most unpleasant manner. We are seeing the start of that right now.

    As the far of the rest of your rant goes, you don't post science, because you have none to back up your nonsense. All you have, and all you post is yap-yap.
     
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    Reverend Malthus!....Reverend Thomas Robert Malthus, please call your office! :lmao:
     
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    "... Yes, the world's population is well above what it should be."

    1. John P. Holdren’s advocacy for a global planetary regime to enforce forced abortion, government `seizure of children born out of wedlock, and mandatory bodily implants designed to prevent pregnancy, Obama’s top advisor also called for,”Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods.”
    Holdren added that the sterilant must meet stiff requirements in that it must only affect humans and not livestock.

    “It must be uniformly effective, despite widely varying doses received by individuals, and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals; it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects; and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock,” wrote Holdren with co-authors Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich.

    Holdren notes that the proposal to forcibly mass sterilize the public against their will “seems to horrify people” and yet it doesn’t seem to bother him too much, amidst the myriad of other totalitarian Dr. Strangelove style ideas that are put forward in the book as a way to carry out an aggressive agenda of population reduction.» Obama Science Czar’s Plan To Sterilize Population Through Water Supply Already Happening Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

    2. Paul Ehrlich was John Holdren’s close scientific partner. John Holdren is Obama’s science advisor. Paul Ehrlich proposed mass poisoning of water and food supplies in 1969.

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    SAN FRANCISCO, Nov. 24--A possibility that the Government might have to put sterility drugs in reservoirs and in food shipped to foreign countries to limit human multiplication was envisioned today by a leading crusader on the population problem.
    A STERILITY DRUG IN FOOD IS HINTED - Biologist Stresses Need to Curb Population Growth - Article - NYTimes.com
    Editorials, Columns, Op-Ed, Letters, Opinionator and More Opinion - The New York Times
    Ehrlich 1969 : Wanted To Poison Water And Food Supplies | Real Science
     
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    Wow, what a list of paranoid delusions!!! You seem to have forgotten forced same-sex marriages. :eek:
     
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    Douchebag, you cry for science but only accept science you agree with. Posting science with you is pointless, you don't want science you want to push AGW theory. You are about as scientific as Al Gore's film...

    DO you know who the club of rome are or what they do? How about UN agenda 21 or the global biodiversity project? Do you know anything but Greenpeace propaganda?

    Its complete nincompoops like you who sit there citing greenpeace and posting from the IPCC all the while calling it science, that have no clue what the real problems are.

    You are like mushrooms, all they have to do is feed you shit and keep you in the dark.
     
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    We need to outlaw abortions worldwide!
    And birth control pills as well.
     
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    Personally, I see population value and growth as more symptoms of an underlying problem based more on perception and circumstance than a fundemental problem in and of itself. In fact, from a sheer statistics perspective, the more people we have the greater the value and accomplishments of humanity in general,...all else being equal. It is in those last four qualifying words that we find most of the perceived problems. "all else being equal," is a goal not many work towards. Given an abundance of cheap, clean energy, and no ridiculous pseudo science clap trap about GMO foodstuffs or "natural" vitamins being better for you than "manufactured" vitamins and supplements, our planet could probably handle 10x the current population without critically straining crucial non-energy resources and habitats. Of course, 99% of those people are going to live in environments more like Hong Kong than Fairfield Iowa.

    You hand out foil hats with this conspiracy mongering?
     
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