spillmind said:WRONG. for one, the reason repubs took control in 2002 was because of the WAR in iraq, and the post 9/11 paranoia. and big ups to the bush team for EXPLOTING THE CRAP OUT OF 9/11 like they still do today. instead of saying, hey, we have a lot lot of enemies, because of x.y and z, but look what we've done, the bush camp continues to shamelessly use 9/11 as their backdrop pushing a false sense of security, and moreover, trying to distract from a war with no exit stradegy, job growth nil, and innovation crippled.
we taxed ourselves OUT OF DEBT, which somehow, COINCIDENTALLY, MIRACULOUSLY gave us the boom of the 90s.
Wrong, the Republicans gained a majority in Congress in 1994.
Wrong about "taxing ourselves out of debt". First of all, we did not have zero debt during the Clinton years (i.e. the total amount the Federal Government owes to its various lenders). We had achieved a budget surplus (i.e. the Federal Government took in more than it managed to spend). Secondly, the reason why there was a budget surplus was because Congress reduced the tax on Capital Gains. Because of this, investors were more likely to buy and sell shares. This helped push up the Dow Jones Industrial Average, which caused more buying and selling, which increased the revenue to the government in the form of Captial Gains, which erased the budget deficit. So actually THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. By LOWERING taxes, we achieved a budget surplus.
But the Congress still maintained a Republican majority and continue to do so to this day. Furthermore, despite your claims, Clinton was never once elected by a popular majority. He never got more than 48% of the vote. Why? Because in 1992 and in 1996 there were three way races. So most of the country didn't want Clinton in office, either. In fact George W. Bush received more popular votes than Clinton ever did. He won by getting over 49.5% of the popular vote (but over 50% of the electoral votes).spillmind said:yeah, the voters really 'swept' clinton right back into office two years later! call it a short attention span.
Which raises a question, if GWB "stole" the election, why didn't his father do the same in 1992? After all, George H.W. Bush was a sitting president in 1992 and had a lot of connections. Yet, you believe that his son, whose father was then retired from the presidency for over 8 years and was a complete outsider in Washington had somehow gotten his fingers into the workings of the Federal Government right up to the level of the Supreme Court and caused the election of 2000 to go his way. If GWB has that kind of Svengali influence, why then has the Supreme Court voted against several pieces of legislation (e.g. refusing to hear anything about gay marriage) since he's come to office?
spillmind said:the people were really trying to drive home a point that the country is in the shitter. unemployed and uninsured are on the rise, and money keeps pumping into a neverending put in iraq. there are many other reasons, but to keep it so large and still pretty mellow overall should tell you that these people are really serious. and *that* is the america that i love! :usa:
Wrong again....unemployment has been on the decrease and is now less than 5.5%. As for the number of uninsured being on the rise. You can thank lawyers like John Edwards (Kerry's running mate) for that. The reason there are so many uninsured is that the cost of health benefits have sky rocketed, therefore many employees don't offer it any longer. Why have health care benefits' cost skyrocketed? LITIGATION. Because of needless litigation, insurance companies have to pay out multi-million dollar settlements, the cost of which is passed on to the consumer. Also, because doctors are afraid of being sued, they practice CYA (cover your ass) and order unnecessary tests and medical procedures to protect themselves from being sued. In addition the Trial Lawyers Association is one of the biggest contributors to the Democratic Party.
spillmind said:um... there were tons of protestors because he was a 'liberator', and passed incredible legislation like the PATRIOT ACT? where the HELL have i been?!!! :duh3:
you want to talk about track records, let's talk failed business after another, DUI getting, and substance abuse? nuff said.
The president doesn't pass legislation, the Congress does. The President can only veto legislation (read the Constitution). And for your information, the Patriot Act was crafted by Congress and passed nearly unanimously. Senators Clinton, Kennedy and Kerry were among those that voted for it.
As for your charges that GWB was a substance abuser, that is entirely a fabrication of a reporter (who later turned out to have been a felon himself). No police records exist of GWB having been arrested (by the way, no one with a criminal record can hold the office of the Presidency). Of course, you'll probably say that the records were probably destroyed by GWB's father or some other tripe.