The progressive war on Christmas/Christianity

[koshergrl]

Indians used the swastika, too.

So I'm sure you feel very comfortable with that.

You have my permission to top your tree with a swastika.

 

[Locke11_21]

Oh well. Too bad the attempts at enforcing holiday PCness are less and less ssuccessful each year. You can't force lockstep conformity. Those days are gone.

It is time to acknowwledge indiviidual freedoms and begin to live in the 21st Century. And hurry up.....you are 12 years late.

Regards from Rosie

It is most ironic to hear someone like you bloviate about individual freedom, yet forms of life such as yourself support Obamacare, forcing companies against their wills to pay for contraceptives. Forcing people into a horrific ponzi scheme of a healthcare system against their will.

How about trying to silence opposing points of view via the "Fairness Doctrine", it is the left-wing side that tries to find the slightest thing Rush Limbaugh says about a complete and total waste to society (Sandra Fluk) to use as a rallying point to have him removed from the air, yet people with your political views have trashed Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann and others far, far worse.

As for religion, it is your side that is forcing Islam upon America, in our schools, while it was your side that is constantly attacking Christianity. For crying out loud, anyone hear of the latest with Fort Hood terrorist Nadal Hassan?? Geez, if the shooter was a white conservative Christian, your side wouldn't stop the coverage until the needle was pulled out of his arm. So, please don't tell me about individual freedom, when it is your side that is telling justices they can't have the 10 Commandments in their office, nor can football players at high schools have kneel down prayers to God before a football game. And just remember, it is your side that breaks off crosses from soldiers tombs, yeah, how about your vision of individual liberty?

You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to individual freedom. Perhaps the next available flight for you to the tyrannical-communist nation of your choice would remedy the situation, given this is the ideology you embrace.

 

[Political Junky]

Indians used the swastika, too.

So I'm sure you feel very comfortable with that.

You have my permission to top your tree with a swastika.

Swastika - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The swastika (&#21328 (Sanskrit: स्वस्ति&#2325 is an equilateral cross with four arms bent at 90 degrees.
The earliest archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates back to the Indus Valley Civilization of present day Pakistan/Ancient India as well as Classical Antiquity. Swastikas have also been used in various other ancient civilizations around the world. It remains widely used in Indian religions, specifically in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, primarily as a tantric symbol to evoke shakti or the sacred symbol of auspiciousness. The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix. The swastika literally means "to be good". Or another translation can be made: "swa" is "higher self", "asti" meaning "being", and "ka" as a suffix, so the translation can be interpreted as "being with higher self".
In East Asia, the swastika is a Chinese character, defined by Kangxi Dictionary, published in 1716, as "synonym of myriad, used mostly in Buddhist classic texts",[1] by extension, the word later evolved to represent eternity and Buddhism.
The symbol has a long history in Europe reaching back to antiquity. In modern times, following a brief surge of popularity as a good luck symbol in Western culture, a swastika was adopted as a symbol of the Nazi Party of Germany in 1920, who used the swastika as a symbol of the Aryan race. After Adolf Hitler came to power in 1933, a right-facing and rotated swastika was incorporated into the Nazi party flag, which was made the state flag of Germany during Nazism. Hence, the swastika has become strongly associated with Nazism and related ideologies such as fascism and white supremacism in the Western world, and is now largely stigmatized there due to the changed connotations of the symbol. Notably, it has been outlawed in Germany and other countries if used as a symbol of Nazism. Many modern political extremists and Neo-Nazi groups such as the Russian National Unity use stylized swastikas or similar symbols.

 

[Old Rocks]

Nazis hated Christianity too.

Go figure. Another similarity.

Not surprising, since Nazis were progressives.

The Straight Dope: Was Hitler a Christian?

In a speech at Koblenz, August 26, 1934, Hitler said: "National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary it stands on the ground of a real Christianity . . . For their interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against a Bolshevist culture, against atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for a consciousness of a community in our national life . . . These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles!"

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When all is said and done, Krueger says that anecdotal evidence from those close to him near the end of his life suggests that he was a at least a deist, if not a theist. Krueger concludes: "So here's what evidence we have. There is a certain worldview, Nazism. Its leader, Hitler, professes on many occasions to be religious, and he often states that he's doing the will of god. The majority of his followers are openly religious. There is no evidence anywhere that this leader ever professed to anyone that he is an atheist. He and his followers actively campaign against atheism, even to the point of physical force, and this leader allies himself with religious organizations and churches. This is the evidence. So where does atheism fit in?" As Krueger notes, there seems to be no real evidence that Hitler was an atheist. On the other hand, since one could never be sure when he was speaking his real thoughts and when he was simply riling up the masses, it's difficult to say for certain.

No, the Nazis were hardly Progressives. In fact, they wrapped themselves in a religious mantle, along with the flag. Now who today wraps themselves in that religioius mantle and the flag?

 

[Old Rocks]

Oh well. Too bad the attempts at enforcing holiday PCness are less and less ssuccessful each year. You can't force lockstep conformity. Those days are gone.

It is time to acknowwledge indiviidual freedoms and begin to live in the 21st Century. And hurry up.....you are 12 years late.

Regards from Rosie

It is most ironic to hear someone like you bloviate about individual freedom, yet forms of life such as yourself support Obamacare, forcing companies against their wills to pay for contraceptives. Forcing people into a horrific ponzi scheme of a healthcare system against their will.

How about trying to silence opposing points of view via the "Fairness Doctrine", it is the left-wing side that tries to find the slightest thing Rush Limbaugh says about a complete and total waste to society (Sandra Fluk) to use as a rallying point to have him removed from the air, yet people with your political views have trashed Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann and others far, far worse.

As for religion, it is your side that is forcing Islam upon America, in our schools, while it was your side that is constantly attacking Christianity. For crying out loud, anyone hear of the latest with Fort Hood terrorist Nadal Hassan?? Geez, if the shooter was a white conservative Christian, your side wouldn't stop the coverage until the needle was pulled out of his arm. So, please don't tell me about individual freedom, when it is your side that is telling justices they can't have the 10 Commandments in their office, nor can football players at high schools have kneel down prayers to God before a football game. And just remember, it is your side that breaks off crosses from soldiers tombs, yeah, how about your vision of individual liberty?

You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to individual freedom. Perhaps the next available flight for you to the tyrannical-communist nation of your choice would remedy the situation, given this is the ideology you embrace.

My, my, the very definiton of bloviation

 

[ABikerSailor]

Has anyone noticed all the Christmas decorations, the Christmas tree a Rockefeller Center?

Yeah................and did anyone else notice that the tree which was killed so that it could sit at the center of the Rockefeller Center was one of the only trees to survive hurricane Sandy?

Nice.................find a survivor of the storm, kill it, and then use it to celebrate a season of peace and goodwill.

Wouldn't the goodwill have been to let the tree live and pick another from somewhere else, rather than try to create a myth?

 

[Old Rocks]

The Obamas have Christmas trees in the White House. What's up with that?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUHc-hdAjLI&feature=player_embedded]Mao Ornament - YouTube[/ame]



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All about the Christmas tree: Pagan origins, Christian adaptation and secular status


The Prophet Jeremiah condemned as Pagan the ancient Middle Eastern practice of cutting down trees, bringing them into the home and decorating them. Of course, these were not really Christmas trees, because Jesus was not born until centuries later, and the use of Christmas trees was not introduced for many centuries after his birth. Apparently, in Jeremiah's time the "heathen" would cut down trees, carve or decorate them in the form of a god or goddess, and overlay it with precious metals. Some Christians currently feel that this Pagan practice was similar enough to our present use of Christmas trees that this passage from Jeremiah can be used to condemn both:

Jeremiah 10:2-4: "Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not." (King James Version).

 

[Grandma]

Has anyone noticed all the Christmas decorations, the Christmas tree a Rockefeller Center?

Yeah................and did anyone else notice that the tree which was killed so that it could sit at the center of the Rockefeller Center was one of the only trees to survive hurricane Sandy?

Nice.................find a survivor of the storm, kill it, and then use it to celebrate a season of peace and goodwill.

Wouldn't the goodwill have been to let the tree live and pick another from somewhere else, rather than try to create a myth?

A pagan Yule tradition.

Funny how these christian soldiers claiming they're being attacked stole everything they have from other religions. Their day in the sun is ending, their attempts to ram their dogma disguised as faith are ending, their false prophets are no longer relevant.

 

[RosieS]

Oh well. Too bad the attempts at enforcing holiday PCness are less and less ssuccessful each year. You can't force lockstep conformity. Those days are gone.

It is time to acknowwledge indiviidual freedoms and begin to live in the 21st Century. And hurry up.....you are 12 years late.

Regards from Rosie

It is most ironic to hear someone like you bloviate about individual freedom, yet forms of life such as yourself support Obamacare, forcing companies against their wills to pay for contraceptives. Forcing people into a horrific ponzi scheme of a healthcare system against their will.

How about trying to silence opposing points of view via the "Fairness Doctrine", it is the left-wing side that tries to find the slightest thing Rush Limbaugh says about a complete and total waste to society (Sandra Fluk) to use as a rallying point to have him removed from the air, yet people with your political views have trashed Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann and others far, far worse.

As for religion, it is your side that is forcing Islam upon America, in our schools, while it was your side that is constantly attacking Christianity. For crying out loud, anyone hear of the latest with Fort Hood terrorist Nadal Hassan?? Geez, if the shooter was a white conservative Christian, your side wouldn't stop the coverage until the needle was pulled out of his arm. So, please don't tell me about individual freedom, when it is your side that is telling justices they can't have the 10 Commandments in their office, nor can football players at high schools have kneel down prayers to God before a football game. And just remember, it is your side that breaks off crosses from soldiers tombs, yeah, how about your vision of individual liberty?

You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to individual freedom. Perhaps the next available flight for you to the tyrannical-communist nation of your choice would remedy the situation, given this is the ideology you embrace.

Haters must hate. Is this hatred in your Bible, your Ten Commandments, your pulpit? If not...it is not your Christianity that is the problem but your lack thereof.

Vile words on the lips are evidence of evil in the heart. You kiss your partner with those lips?

Regards from Rosie

 

[jillian]

wow... i guess the annual wingnut whine about the war on christmas was delayed this year because of the continuing whine about benghazi.

 

[jillian]

Nazis hated Christianity too.

Go figure. Another similarity.

Not surprising, since Nazis were progressives.

no allie... hitler used christianity as a means of consolidating his support.

it doesn't really matter what he actually believed himself... what matters is that he played on people's religious beliefs to get them in the fold ...

you know... like the right does here.

 

[Stephanie]

Has anyone noticed all the Christmas decorations, the Christmas tree a Rockefeller Center?

Yeah................and did anyone else notice that the tree which was killed so that it could sit at the center of the Rockefeller Center was one of the only trees to survive hurricane Sandy?

Nice.................find a survivor of the storm, kill it, and then use it to celebrate a season of peace and goodwill.

Wouldn't the goodwill have been to let the tree live and pick another from somewhere else, rather than try to create a myth?

the tree was KILLED?
GOOD GRIEF

 

[J.E.D]

 

[strollingbones]

seems christians have pretty much trashed christmas with black friday and all the shopping.....

seems no one wants to discuss that....


btw beck is an admitted liar.......keep following him

 

[koshergrl]

Nazis hated Christianity too.

Go figure. Another similarity.

Not surprising, since Nazis were progressives.

The Straight Dope: Was Hitler a Christian?

In a speech at Koblenz, August 26, 1934, Hitler said: "National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary it stands on the ground of a real Christianity . . . For their interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against a Bolshevist culture, against atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for a consciousness of a community in our national life . . . These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles!"

.........................................................................................

When all is said and done, Krueger says that anecdotal evidence from those close to him near the end of his life suggests that he was a at least a deist, if not a theist. Krueger concludes: "So here's what evidence we have. There is a certain worldview, Nazism. Its leader, Hitler, professes on many occasions to be religious, and he often states that he's doing the will of god. The majority of his followers are openly religious. There is no evidence anywhere that this leader ever professed to anyone that he is an atheist. He and his followers actively campaign against atheism, even to the point of physical force, and this leader allies himself with religious organizations and churches. This is the evidence. So where does atheism fit in?" As Krueger notes, there seems to be no real evidence that Hitler was an atheist. On the other hand, since one could never be sure when he was speaking his real thoughts and when he was simply riling up the masses, it's difficult to say for certain.

No, the Nazis were hardly Progressives. In fact, they wrapped themselves in a religious mantle, along with the flag. Now who today wraps themselves in that religioius mantle and the flag?

They were into neo-paganism, and hated the church.

So stop lying. You guys are the exact same people who ushered in and legalized nazi atrocities in the name of science, for all the same reasons you retards chip away at individual freedoms, while worshiping pseudo science that says that abortion and euthanasia will result in a kinder, gentler world.

Sick fucks.

 

[koshergrl]

seems christians have pretty much trashed christmas with black friday and all the shopping.....

seems no one wants to discuss that....


btw beck is an admitted liar.......keep following him

Yeah, cuz black friday is a christian construct.

 

[Connery]

seems christians have pretty much trashed christmas with black friday and all the shopping.....

seems no one wants to discuss that....

I would like to discuss it. It seems the term "Black Friday" originated in Philadelphia(1966) by the police department due to the shopping, traffic and craziness that ensued the day after Thanksgiving. My understanding is that shopping is done by many people of varying religious beliefs and commitment to those beliefs.

 

[koshergrl]

Nazis hated Christianity too.

Go figure. Another similarity.

Not surprising, since Nazis were progressives.

no allie... hitler used christianity as a means of consolidating his support.

it doesn't really matter what he actually believed himself... what matters is that he played on people's religious beliefs to get them in the fold ...

you know... like the right does here.

Sure, jillian. Keep supporting progressive anti-semite ideology. That's worked out so well for the Jewish people in the past.

 

[konradv]

Who had 11/30/12 in the poll about when the righties would start their Xmas whine. Happy Holidays.

 

[Sallow]

What war?

Christianity is one of the bloodiest religions, bar none.

And their followers are still welcome to practice their arcane and mythical rituals without molestation.

It's when they force their magical beliefs on others..do they run into problems.

This isn't 1933 Germany. You guys don't have a government willing to kill your enemies in ovens any more.

Deal