The Poisoning of Flint, MI.

[Seawytch]

Over the past few weeks, Rachel Maddow has been covering the water situation in Flint, MI.

Snyder admin allowed Flint to drink toxic water despite warnings

Rick Snyder administration in Michigan new about reports of the toxicity of Flint's water while the town continued to drink it, resulting in the lead poisoning of some residents, including children, and even rejected Flint's democratically elected council's vote to change water sources.

Yes, they are videos but I highly recommend watching them. What the governor's office did borders on criminal negligence. They intentionally ignored warnings and tried to discredit those that came forward.

Children of Flint will have permanent damage from the lead poisoning caused by his gross negligence.

 

[washamericom]

first fat ass michael moore, now this... there is no god.

 

[Seawytch]

first fat ass michael moore, now this... there is no god.

You're comparing Michael Moore helping the people of his hometown of Flint to Gov. Snyder who poisoned the people of Flint?

 

[The Rabbi]

Rachel Maddow should be charged with poisoning people with hate. Why anyone listens to that ugly dyke is beyond me.

 

[Seawytch]

Rachel Maddow should be charged with poisoning people with hate. Why anyone listens to that ugly dyke is beyond me.

Such a reasoned and well thought out response.

The governor of the state poisoned the people of Flint. He knew it and didn't stop it. He lied about it, tried to discredit the people that warned him about it...and then had to admit it.

And you make it about Rachel Maddow who did nothing more than report on it.

 

[SwimExpert]

This is really ironic. In a thread talking about lead poisoning the first two respondents are prime suspects of lead poisoning.

Good video Seawytch. Remarkably good clip, chock full of information. You've made one drastic mistake, though. You seem to think that people around here care about facts.

 

[Seawytch]

This is really ironic. In a thread talking about lead poisoning the first two respondents are prime suspects of lead poisoning.

Good video Seawytch. Remarkably good clip, chock full of information. You've made one drastic mistake, though. You seem to think that people around here care about facts.

{Sigh}

Hope springs eternal...especially at Christmas.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

I'm ok with poisoning little children.

 

[The Rabbi]

Rachel Maddow should be charged with poisoning people with hate. Why anyone listens to that ugly dyke is beyond me.

Such a reasoned and well thought out response.

The governor of the state poisoned the people of Flint. He knew it and didn't stop it. He lied about it, tried to discredit the people that warned him about it...and then had to admit it.

And you make it about Rachel Maddow who did nothing more than report on it.

He did no such thing. Except in the minds of people who are very very confused.
Maddow is stirring up the stupid, the ill informed, and the easily led. In other words, people just like you.

 

[Seawytch]

Rachel Maddow should be charged with poisoning people with hate. Why anyone listens to that ugly dyke is beyond me.

Such a reasoned and well thought out response.

The governor of the state poisoned the people of Flint. He knew it and didn't stop it. He lied about it, tried to discredit the people that warned him about it...and then had to admit it.

And you make it about Rachel Maddow who did nothing more than report on it.

He did no such thing. Except in the minds of people who are very very confused.
Maddow is stirring up the stupid, the ill informed, and the easily led. In other words, people just like you.

Then provide evidence to the contrary.

Flint toxic water tragedy points directly to Michigan Gov. Snyder

Virginia Tech researcher accuses state health officials of "hiding" data on Flint's water
Marc Edwards says newly obtained internal documents show Department of Health and Human Services employees tried to hide evidence that matched the increased lead levels in children found by doctors at Hurley Medical Center.

“There are emails that show they reproduced the Hurley analysis very early on, and in a document they said is not to be distributed to the public, they noted they found the same thing as Hurley but they didn’t tell anyone,” says Edwards.[...]

In September, Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha at Hurley Medical Center announced the results of her research – that the percentage of kids with elevated lead levels in Flint nearly doubled after the switch to the Flint River. But state health department officials tried to discredit her – even though we now know their own data agreed with Dr. Hanna-Attisha’s findings. The health department later said their data was in agreement with Hanna-Attisha's.

 

[The Rabbi]

Rachel Maddow should be charged with poisoning people with hate. Why anyone listens to that ugly dyke is beyond me.

Such a reasoned and well thought out response.

The governor of the state poisoned the people of Flint. He knew it and didn't stop it. He lied about it, tried to discredit the people that warned him about it...and then had to admit it.

And you make it about Rachel Maddow who did nothing more than report on it.

He did no such thing. Except in the minds of people who are very very confused.
Maddow is stirring up the stupid, the ill informed, and the easily led. In other words, people just like you.

Then provide evidence to the contrary.

Flint toxic water tragedy points directly to Michigan Gov. Snyder

Virginia Tech researcher accuses state health officials of "hiding" data on Flint's water
Marc Edwards says newly obtained internal documents show Department of Health and Human Services employees tried to hide evidence that matched the increased lead levels in children found by doctors at Hurley Medical Center.

“There are emails that show they reproduced the Hurley analysis very early on, and in a document they said is not to be distributed to the public, they noted they found the same thing as Hurley but they didn’t tell anyone,” says Edwards.[...]

In September, Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha at Hurley Medical Center announced the results of her research – that the percentage of kids with elevated lead levels in Flint nearly doubled after the switch to the Flint River. But state health department officials tried to discredit her – even though we now know their own data agreed with Dr. Hanna-Attisha’s findings. The health department later said their data was in agreement with Hanna-Attisha's.

You need a link to StinkProgress and HuffPoo to complete this collage of propaganda and half truth.

 

[Nyvin]

Rachel Maddow should be charged with poisoning people with hate. Why anyone listens to that ugly dyke is beyond me.

Such a reasoned and well thought out response.

The governor of the state poisoned the people of Flint. He knew it and didn't stop it. He lied about it, tried to discredit the people that warned him about it...and then had to admit it.

And you make it about Rachel Maddow who did nothing more than report on it.

He did no such thing. Except in the minds of people who are very very confused.
Maddow is stirring up the stupid, the ill informed, and the easily led. In other words, people just like you.

Yes he did. His emergency manger overrode the vote last March to stop taking drinking water from the river. The Emergency Manager answers only to Snyder. Snyder is solely responsible. There's no way out of this one.

 

[Seawytch]

Rachel Maddow should be charged with poisoning people with hate. Why anyone listens to that ugly dyke is beyond me.

Such a reasoned and well thought out response.

The governor of the state poisoned the people of Flint. He knew it and didn't stop it. He lied about it, tried to discredit the people that warned him about it...and then had to admit it.

And you make it about Rachel Maddow who did nothing more than report on it.

He did no such thing. Except in the minds of people who are very very confused.
Maddow is stirring up the stupid, the ill informed, and the easily led. In other words, people just like you.

Then provide evidence to the contrary.

Flint toxic water tragedy points directly to Michigan Gov. Snyder

Virginia Tech researcher accuses state health officials of "hiding" data on Flint's water
Marc Edwards says newly obtained internal documents show Department of Health and Human Services employees tried to hide evidence that matched the increased lead levels in children found by doctors at Hurley Medical Center.

“There are emails that show they reproduced the Hurley analysis very early on, and in a document they said is not to be distributed to the public, they noted they found the same thing as Hurley but they didn’t tell anyone,” says Edwards.[...]

In September, Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha at Hurley Medical Center announced the results of her research – that the percentage of kids with elevated lead levels in Flint nearly doubled after the switch to the Flint River. But state health department officials tried to discredit her – even though we now know their own data agreed with Dr. Hanna-Attisha’s findings. The health department later said their data was in agreement with Hanna-Attisha's.

You need a link to StinkProgress and HuffPoo to complete this collage of propaganda and half truth.

Still waiting for your links to the contrary. Come on Rabbi, give us that link that shows that the Governor didn't know he was poisoning the residents of Flint. (new, just released reports, show that the state did know and were warned about it by the EPA)

 

[SwimExpert]

He did no such thing.

Well, there are many 'such things' listed in the post you were responding to, so which thing is the 'no such thing' of which you speak? Let's take them one by one, shall we?

1 - Poisoned the people of Flint

Many state legislators and Flint residents have blamed the state government, in particular Governor Rick Snyder, for the lead poisoning; a state-appointed emergency manager was running Flint when the call was made to save money by changing the water supply. Flint restored its connection to the Detroit water system in mid-October, but the damage is already done to thousands of children. Based on this, and the fact that the city's efforts to restore Detroit water were impeded by the Snyder administration (as explained in the video clip), this would qualify as a true statement.


2 - He knew it and didn't stop it

Through a public records request, Marc Edwards, a civil engineering professor at Virginia Tech, uncovered a July 2015 memo warning of elevated lead levels in Flint kids' blood.


3 - He lied about it, tried to discredit the people that warned him about it...and then had to admit it

Other emails obtained by Edwards indicate that the data had been sent to the director of the DHHS, as well as to the office of Gov. Rick Snyder (R), sometime between July and September.

Snyder may not have done so personally, but he is responsible for his administration, and his administration certainly seems to have done so.


Of course, you're free to disagree with all of this Rabbi. But seeing as there has been ample evidence presented at this point you're going to need to provide something a little more substantive than your standard bitch fit to support your position.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

first fat ass michael moore, now this... there is no god.

You're comparing Michael Moore helping the people of his hometown of Flint to Gov. Snyder who poisoned the people of Flint?

Actually it's a red herring fallacy, a failed attempt to deflect.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Rachel Maddow should be charged with poisoning people with hate. Why anyone listens to that ugly dyke is beyond me.

Another ridiculous attempt to deflect by a ridiculous partisan hack.

 

[NightFox]

Still waiting for your links to the contrary. Come on Rabbi, give us that link that shows that the Governor didn't know he was poisoning the residents of Flint. (new, just released reports, show that the state did know and were warned about it by the EPA)

How do you figure that the Governor was "poisoning the residents of Flint"? Did the Governor put the lead in the water supply or order it to be put there? Did he force the residents to drink the tap water? How about we place the blame where it belongs, on the people that contaminated the water in the first place....

Not to mention the fact that you stated "were warned about it by the EPA", you mean the EPA KNEW about lead contamination in a city water supply and did nothing about it directly, warned the residents or bothered to follow up to make sure it was being handled? If that's the case what the fuck do we pay billions of dollars a year to operate the EPA for ?

 

[The Rabbi]

Rachel Maddow should be charged with poisoning people with hate. Why anyone listens to that ugly dyke is beyond me.

Such a reasoned and well thought out response.

The governor of the state poisoned the people of Flint. He knew it and didn't stop it. He lied about it, tried to discredit the people that warned him about it...and then had to admit it.

And you make it about Rachel Maddow who did nothing more than report on it.

He did no such thing. Except in the minds of people who are very very confused.
Maddow is stirring up the stupid, the ill informed, and the easily led. In other words, people just like you.

Yes he did. His emergency manger overrode the vote last March to stop taking drinking water from the river. The Emergency Manager answers only to Snyder. Snyder is solely responsible. There's no way out of this one.

OK so Snyder had nothing to do with it. Thanks for affirming that.

 

[The Rabbi]

Rachel Maddow should be charged with poisoning people with hate. Why anyone listens to that ugly dyke is beyond me.

Such a reasoned and well thought out response.

The governor of the state poisoned the people of Flint. He knew it and didn't stop it. He lied about it, tried to discredit the people that warned him about it...and then had to admit it.

And you make it about Rachel Maddow who did nothing more than report on it.

He did no such thing. Except in the minds of people who are very very confused.
Maddow is stirring up the stupid, the ill informed, and the easily led. In other words, people just like you.

Then provide evidence to the contrary.

Flint toxic water tragedy points directly to Michigan Gov. Snyder

Virginia Tech researcher accuses state health officials of "hiding" data on Flint's water
Marc Edwards says newly obtained internal documents show Department of Health and Human Services employees tried to hide evidence that matched the increased lead levels in children found by doctors at Hurley Medical Center.

“There are emails that show they reproduced the Hurley analysis very early on, and in a document they said is not to be distributed to the public, they noted they found the same thing as Hurley but they didn’t tell anyone,” says Edwards.[...]

In September, Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha at Hurley Medical Center announced the results of her research – that the percentage of kids with elevated lead levels in Flint nearly doubled after the switch to the Flint River. But state health department officials tried to discredit her – even though we now know their own data agreed with Dr. Hanna-Attisha’s findings. The health department later said their data was in agreement with Hanna-Attisha's.

You need a link to StinkProgress and HuffPoo to complete this collage of propaganda and half truth.

Still waiting for your links to the contrary. Come on Rabbi, give us that link that shows that the Governor didn't know he was poisoning the residents of Flint. (new, just released reports, show that the state did know and were warned about it by the EPA)

No you have to produce evidence the governor knew and ignored it. Go ahead. We'll wait.
Where was Obama in all this? If Katrina was Bush's fault then Flint is obviously Obama's fault.
Obama doesnt care about white people.

 

[The Rabbi]

Rachel Maddow should be charged with poisoning people with hate. Why anyone listens to that ugly dyke is beyond me.

Another ridiculous attempt to deflect by a ridiculous partisan hack.

That fails as mere assertion fallacy.