The pledge of allegiance was written in English and should always be repeated in English.

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What's this? There is a movement afoot to recite the pledge of allegiance and several different languages now? Need we be reminded that language is the precursor of culture and that culture is the precursor of demographics?

On the face of it it seems innocent but if you look underneath the surface it's one more excuse not to have to learn English when you arrive here to become an American.

Bad idea.

Jo
Get rid of the goddamn thing. No other country does this--and no, we didn't come up with it because we're the most enlightened people on earth. We did it because we're the most tinfoil hat nutters that ever lived. It was created SPECIFICALLY as anti-immigrant propaganda and if all it's going to do is create one more thing to quibble over, ditch it.
When did they make ewe president of the hate America most club?
I love America.

So why fundamentally change it, a stated goal of the Left?
They fail to answer that question every time. They hate this country and democracy, they love socialism and open borders!
You should probably stick to talking about things you know about, instead of making up slop about people you don't know, don't care to understand, and absolutely never listen to.
 
Changing the salute was the turning point, it all went downhill from there...

Bellamy_salute_1.jpg
 
But the pledge of allegiance is what makes America great....

Oh I forgot, America isn't great because Trump said so....
 
I misspoke. Bellamy, who wrote the Pledge in 1892, did not do it in a nationalistic response to immigration; a socialist, he did it to help educate immigrants on the greatness of America. However, it was co-opted by the nationalists a few decades later and has remained an arm twisting rituat to prove your patriotism. Nuh uh.
 
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What's this? There is a movement afoot to recite the pledge of allegiance and several different languages now? Need we be reminded that language is the precursor of culture and that culture is the precursor of demographics?

On the face of it it seems innocent but if you look underneath the surface it's one more excuse not to have to learn English when you arrive here to become an American.

Bad idea.

Jo
Get rid of the goddamn thing. No other country does this--and no, we didn't come up with it because we're the most enlightened people on earth. We did it because we're the most tinfoil hat nutters that ever lived. It was created SPECIFICALLY as anti-immigrant propaganda and if all it's going to do is create one more thing to quibble over, ditch it.
A pledge should be voluntary and only said once in your lifetime

Saying it every day infers it only lasts a day
 
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What's this? There is a movement afoot to recite the pledge of allegiance and several different languages now? Need we be reminded that language is the precursor of culture and that culture is the precursor of demographics?

On the face of it it seems innocent but if you look underneath the surface it's one more excuse not to have to learn English when you arrive here to become an American.

Bad idea.

Jo
Get rid of the goddamn thing. No other country does this--and no, we didn't come up with it because we're the most enlightened people on earth. We did it because we're the most tinfoil hat nutters that ever lived. It was created SPECIFICALLY as anti-immigrant propaganda and if all it's going to do is create one more thing to quibble over, ditch it.
A pledge should be voluntary and only said once in your lifetime

Saying it every day infers it only lasts a day
When do American born citizens say it? The first day of Kindergarten? The day they register to vote? When?
 
If you say a pledge you don’t understand

Is it really a pledge?
 
Get rid of the goddamn thing. No other country does this--and no, we didn't come up with it because we're the most enlightened people on earth. We did it because we're the most tinfoil hat nutters that ever lived. It was created SPECIFICALLY as anti-immigrant propaganda and if all it's going to do is create one more thing to quibble over, ditch it.
When did they make ewe president of the hate America most club?
I love America.

So why fundamentally change it, a stated goal of the Left?
They fail to answer that question every time. They hate this country and democracy, they love socialism and open borders!
You should probably stick to talking about things you know about, instead of making up slop about people you don't know, don't care to understand, and absolutely never listen to.
The first fucking words ewe typed explained all we need to know about your goddamned love for America. You said, and I quote, “ get rid of the goddamned thing.! Fuck you you open borders hate America creep!
 
But the pledge of allegiance is what makes America great....

Oh I forgot, America isn't great because Trump said so....
Cuomo, “America was never that great.” Trump “make America great again.” See the difference asshole?
 
When did they make ewe president of the hate America most club?
I love America.

So why fundamentally change it, a stated goal of the Left?
They fail to answer that question every time. They hate this country and democracy, they love socialism and open borders!
You should probably stick to talking about things you know about, instead of making up slop about people you don't know, don't care to understand, and absolutely never listen to.
The first fucking words ewe typed explained all we need to know about your goddamned love for America. You said, and I quote, “ get rid of the goddamned thing.! Fuck you you open borders hate America creep!
No need to cuss. But you're proving my point.
 
You should not pledge allegiance to a symbol

You should pledge directly to the country. It should be voluntary and said just once
 
To me, what matters most is the fact that the girl put the pledge out there at all. Maybe she didn't know English yet and so if she was only doing what she could, I appreciate the salute that she was respectful enough to give.

God bless you and her always!!!

Holly
 
Tin foil? Really? For anti-immigrant propaganda? Where is it anti-immigrant? Tell me, Oldlady, if you wish to become a citizen in this great country, should you hold allegiance to your former country, over your present?

And you never did answer my questions to you in the other thread as to why you would want to increase food insecurity for those already here, which you have spoken of quite a bit, through your time here.

And quit with the anti-immigrant blubber, we want immigrants that come here the legal way. We are a country of laws. Unless you believe banana republics are better?
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What's this? There is a movement afoot to recite the pledge of allegiance and several different languages now? Need we be reminded that language is the precursor of culture and that culture is the precursor of demographics?

On the face of it it seems innocent but if you look underneath the surface it's one more excuse not to have to learn English when you arrive here to become an American.

Bad idea.

Jo
Get rid of the goddamn thing. No other country does this--and no, we didn't come up with it because we're the most enlightened people on earth. We did it because we're the most tinfoil hat nutters that ever lived. It was created SPECIFICALLY as anti-immigrant propaganda and if all it's going to do is create one more thing to quibble over, ditch it.
 

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