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An unloaded gub is a club. Might as well have a baseball bat.I've got a stack of bricks in the garage about as useful as an unloaded weapon.
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An unloaded gub is a club. Might as well have a baseball bat.I've got a stack of bricks in the garage about as useful as an unloaded weapon.
There IS no precedent on the issue. The Court hasn't ever ruled on the subject.
Eugene Volokh said:Throughout the Court's history, the Justices have mentioned the Second Amendment, usually in passing, in 27 opinions. In 22 of these 27, the Justices quoted or paraphrased only "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" language, without even mentioning the Militia Clause.
One attorney's opinion. Let's hear another's:
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/beararms/testimon.htm
Here is his list:
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/beararms/testimon.htm#TOC.VI.D
I'm but an amatuer barrister, but I'd say we definitely have precedent.
Volokh has a particular political perspective. Personally, I haven't ever read anything he's written that I've agreed with, but admittedly that's MY opinion, which isn't worth more or less than his.
As you know, I have no horse in the race on this issue. And while there may be dicta in some of the decisions, there is no precedent until the Court rules on the issue directly. Just how it works. Dicta can be used to persuade, but there's no stare decisis.
.... dicta.....stare decisis....????
I'll bet the snowman is duly impressed....
Damn, thats funny...thanks Jill....
Listen, the insecure and frightened can always hug their guns, they can hide in their fall out shelter armed and ready for aliens or whomever is the fear figure of the day, it is control of handguns and a change in attitude that matter here. And maybe a heavy object can kill you but I'd prefer that fight any day. The times they are a changing, as I noted above, attitudes towards smoking have changed, attitudes among the young towards guns will change too. Time is always on the side of sanity. Well, usually always.
http://www.ichv.org/Statistics.htm
FACT: Among 26 industrialized nations, 86% of gun deaths among children under age 15 occurred in the United States.
- Provided by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence
FACT: Taxpayers pay more than 85% of the medical cost for treatment of firearm-related injuries.
- Martin M, et al. "The Cost of Hospitalization for Firearm Injuries." JAMA. Vol 260, November 25, 1998, pp 3048, and Ordog et al. "Hospital Costs of Firearm Injuries." Abstract. Journal of Trauma. February 1995, p1)
You could go look up the words moron, since you clearly don't understand what I was saying. Snowman, however, does. And we've talked about these issues before.
How is that rock you crawled out from under anyway? And do you honestly think your opinion matters? I really don't get all that het up by things people with double digit IQ's say. So keep on trying.
Hey...I admire that fact that you keep coming back for more after you've been burned some many times ....and with some clever retorts yet....meaningless but clever.....
I just figured you're too stupid to realize when you've been getting your butt kicked, so it's kind of amusing to me.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3920
"Douglas Wiebe of the Firearm Injury Center at Penn (FICAP) at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia .... Last month, Wiebe and colleagues found that people who keep guns at home have a 72 per cent greater chance of being killed by firearms compared with those who do not, and are 3.44 times as likely to commit suicide (Annals of Emergency Medicine, vol 41, p 771). A 1997 survey by the CDC that compared the US with 25 other industrialised countries, including the UK and Australia, showed that the number of gun-related homicides in the US per 100,00 children below the age of 15 was 16 times that of all the other countries combined. The proportion of children below 15 who use guns to kill themselves was 11 times higher."
The insecure and frightened whine and complain about guns, but when it comes time to stand and deliver a sound argument against them, they fall way short.Listen, the insecure and frightened can always hug their guns...
Fear of inanimite objects is called hoplophibia. You suffer. Get help.
If only we had, and would ever have, such a thing.Then again, some think guns are unnecessary in a civilised society...
If only we had, and would ever have, such a thing.
Depends on your definition...
Well, if it's one were guns are unnecessary, then its one where government is unnecessary.