The Morning After...

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    In December 2003, Plan B, an emergency contraception medication, was approved by a vote of 23 to 4 by the FDA Advisory Committee on Reproductive Health Medications for over the counter sale. Despite this recommendation, the FDA, headed by Scott McClellan. If the last name isn't familiar he's the brother of Puffy McMoonface, a.k.a. Mark McClellan, White House Press Secretary. Instrumental to the denial of Plan B's OTC sale was Dr. W. David Hager, OB/GYN, conservtive Christian and darling of the Bush administration...But more about him later.

    <a href=http://www.go2planb.com/section/about/index.html>Plan B</a> is designed for emergency contraception and <b>IS NOT</b> an abortifacient, despite claims to the contrary by the drugs anti-abortion foes. The drug inhibits ovulation, and if ovulation has already occurred, it prevents the implantation of the fertilized egg in the uterine wall. Since around 50% of fertilized eggs fail to implant anyways, there is really no interuption in the life-cycle as is claimed by anti-abortionists. Their claim that life begins at conception has no scientific or rational merit and may be dismissed.

    Also, easy access to emergency contraception would help reduce the number of abortions over all in that it would not be necessary to seek one as an unplanned pregnacy could be avoided. But a new application for OCT sale certification by Plan B's manufacturer has languished since the <a href=http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050530&s=mcgarvey>FDA missed a deadline</a> for responding to the application in January.

    Back to Dr. Hager...After the advisory committee voted to recommend OTC sale of Plan B, Dr. Hager stated that he produced a "minority report" at the request from "outside the agency" but later stated that he produced the report at the request of an FDA staffer. An FDA spokeswoman stated that there had been no internal request, and he had sent a "private citizen letter" on the matter to Scott McClellan, Puffy McMoonface's brother.

    Dr. Hager made his decision based on his belief that the medication is an abortifacient even though it has no effect on an established pregnancy. His decision is a matter of faith rather fact, and when making decisions affecting human life, fact must trump faith.

    But what of Dr. Hager himself? His books show his view of women to be less than equitable, and men should act as "benevolent authority figures" towards women. In 2002, he spearheaded a campign to block the manufacure and distribution of RU-486 in the US. And, more recently, his former wife of 32 years has come forward with accounts of their marriage. This includes an extramarital affair by Dr. Davis with a friend of his former wife...Videotaping and photographing their sexual activity...Forcible sodomy, yes, in all 50 states, marital rape is a crime.

    With Dr. Hager's political star rising, he stands to be re-nominated for his position on the FDA advisory committee, or even advancement to a position with even more authority over women's health issues. Imagine...a misogynistic, abusive man making policy regarding women's health issues. But this is par for the course for this administration, Condi Rice, despite her failures as NSA was promoted to Secretatry of State...John Negroponte, having no Middle East experience was promoted to Proconsul of Iraq. And after fleeing Iraq like a whipped dog, he is now the National Intelligence Director...John Bolton, with his rabid, reflexive loathing of any challenge to himself or US power, is nominated to be UN Ambassador.

    How much longer will it be before the religious right wing-nuts in this country demand that women be stripped of the franchise and relegated, once more, to the status of chatttel...? Unable to own property...Unable to work outside the home...To be used for no other purpose than to satisfy the desires and silently suffer the abuse of her lord and master? This is the hidden agenda of of the religious far right-wing fringe in this country. But this lunatic fringe is polluting the mainstream ever more...To the point that it is becoming the mainstream.

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    http://www.go2planb.com/section/about/index.html

    http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050530&s=mcgarvey
     
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    Umm.... Unplanned pregnancy can easily be avoided, and without this stupid pill, which should not be made available to the general public just for the hell of it.
     
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    Actually, it has both scientific and rational merit.
     
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    Semantics...An undifferentiated mass of cells is not a living entity, it is simply an undifferentiated mass of cells. To equate it with human life outside the womb is patently ridiculous.
     
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    Birth control has been known to fail...frequently.

    And if you're talking about abstinence, well, that doesn't work too well either.
    <a href=http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/31/news-ireland.php>A Minnesota study and another from the Columbia University Department of Sociology</a> show an alarming increase in unsafe sexual activities in students participating in abstinence only programs.
     
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    Sure it's alive. Even one celled organisms are alive, remember them from high school bio? Just because an organism cannot pay onerous, confiscatory taxes, doesn't mean it's not alive.
     
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    But how do we know that this fertilized egg is one of the 50% that won't implant, as opposed to one of the 50% that will?
     
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    Personally there are too many damned people in the world. So people who are going to have abortions anyway should do so. Hell i wish some other parents would have had abortions instead of pumping them out endlessly to claim more welfare.

    As a moral stance, abortion is wrong. You are killing a human being. As a practical stance, idiots shouldnt be having kids anyway. Tough decision to make.
     
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    You'd think that if birth control were known to fail, and you've taken every precaution, you'd chalk that up to whatever "higher power" you believe in, and allow the pregnancy to go through, rather than stamping it out, just because you want to play, but not pay...
     

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