The Man With The Gun

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  1. Flanders
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    Muslim Violence is Our New Law
    Daniel Greenfield Sunday, September 30, 2012

    Muslim Violence is Our New Law

    The above excerpt reminded me of a scene from the 1963 movie The Balcony that takes place in a whorehouse where ordinary men pay to engage in their fantasies. The “General,” who is a milkman in a general’s uniform, decides he can take the place of the real general who was killed in the revolution raging outside. The chief of police straightens him out with a swift kick in the nuts and words I am paraphrasing: “There is a man with a gun behind everything, and that man is me.”

    Israel’s existence is the excuse Muslims use to kill everyone in their holy war. The thing that troubles me is that Islam’s jihad is being reduced to a conflict between Muslims and Christians irrespective of the other religions Islamic fundamentalists attack. Eleven years ago the Taliban in Afghanistan not only had a gun —— they had dynamite when they attacked Buddhism:


    July 10, 2011
    Is The Fate of the Infidels Tied to the Buddhas?
    By Janet Levy

    Articles: Is The Fate of the Infidels Tied to the Buddhas?

    With a little imagination one can say destroying statues, temples, etc. is only a strict interpretation of the doctrine of Separation of Church and State. I assume the American Left does not want images of Buddha on government buildings or on public lands in this country. After all, what’s good for Jerusalem Slim should be good for Boo. (I believe Hussein and the America Left granted Moe a waiver.)

    The beginning

    Since the day organized religion was invented every priesthood worked to make their religion the one true religion. That never-ending “competition” put the human race on a fast track to hell the day the one God notion ejaculated organized religion as it is practiced today. From the beginning the elimination of every other religion took priority over forcing everybody to believe in God. Basically, religious fanatics hate alien religious fanatics more than they hate atheists. In today’s world Muslims and Communists are the only priesthoods who proselytize with guns.

    Incidentally, people who believe in God, but not religion, do not give a rat’s ass what others believe. Did you ever hear of an individual who believed in God beating up someone because they adhered to a religion? How many times has the world seen fanatical believers in one religion trying to wipe out, or convert by force, believers in another religion.

    Today’s Muslims reaffirm my long-held view. Individuals were spiritually better-off when there were a bunch of gods; each one specializing in a different realm of piety —— the same as specialists in medicine and law. There are more benefits to be realized from tolerating a plethora of gods as opposed to putting all of our nuts in one squirrel cage.

    Assuming the tools for self-defense, rapid communications, etc., would be in the same place today had the one God idea been completed rejected down through the ages, I wonder what the world would be like in the 21st century?

    One thing cannot be denied. Societal insistence on a belief in one God rewarded ambition and ambitious government since its inception. In the modern world ambition replaced achievement. More importantly, a one government world is the evolutionary consequence of a one God universe.

    The major problem with a one government world is that it will probably be a Socialist/Communist totalitarian government, or an equally totalitarian Supreme Deity theocracy. Until then, freedom-loving people still have the option of calling upon the much praised, always ignored, wisdom of the ancients who had a top God right along with a bunch of lesser gods. That’s probably the model for our own president and members of Congress.

    NOTE: Hinduism teaches a belief in a Supreme Being of many forms and natures, but it falls short of endorsing the ancient belief in numerous gods who spent all of their time aggravating the boss if I remember Roman and Greek mythology accurately.

    Alas, the one God crowd controlling governments won’t hear of multiple gods. It’s all or nothing for them, and what is worse from their point of view is that the multiple-god system of religion would most certainly unleash the forces of cynicism. God forbid a cynical distrust of priests and politicians be encouraged.

    Let’s say there really are supernatural forces concerned with the individual’s spiritual well-being in the next world. A quick look at the past two thousand years should tell everyone the workload is just too much for one God. I know this is so because even the Pope has trouble getting through to the boss. For as long as I can remember, every time it was reported “Pope Prays For Peace” I knew a lot of people were about to die somewhere in the world.

    On the other hand, Muslim extremists bent on killing infidels appear to have a direct line to their guy —— they thank Allah for answering their prayers after every successful act of terrorism. (I have to admit God is Good —— to terrorists.)

    Roman Catholicism does have saints on the payroll to handle minor requests, but if it’s a serious matter you have to get in touch with God. At least with an army of equal gods on call there is a good chance your special favorite will be available to hear your request in times of personal distress.

    As it stands now, if you want your prayers to be heard where it counts you are expected to go through a middleman to reach God’s ear before your petition is considered. God’s earthly gatekeepers will never admit it at a prayer meeting, but they frown upon direct personal contact with the CEO whenever that contact is too far removed from the collection plate.

    Of course, the salespeople merchandising assorted gods would still expect a small donation. Nevertheless, a bit of healthy competition in the hereafter marketplace should keep donations, and political power, at reasonably low levels; benefits not to be taken lightly.

    The ideal is for every god to stay out of government altogether; however, being part realist and part cynic the best I can expect is severely restricted religious participation in the mundane affairs of severely limited government. A thousand or so full-fledged gods cutting up the take doesn’t leave much room for mischief caused by the one God sharpshooters splitting the pot, and the soul pool, among themselves.

    Even though I have a hankering for more gods, I’m convinced that all of those one God religions is a negative thing. The followers of every supreme God always end up trying to assert their own guy’s Right to occupy the apex unchallenged. And now we have to contend with the Socialist priesthood pushing their God of economic morality in addition to the zealots of every other one and only True God strangling mankind. God! —— Will humanity never see an end to religious meddling?

    Having said the above, I have to admit it is possible for every person in the world to belong to one of the traditional organized religions. Every religion except socialism would gladly embrace everyone. However, socialism’s true believers must feed on the labors of others without giving anything of value in return; so there must always be a large percentage of the population excluded from joining the congregation.

    Throughout history, the hierarchies of organized religion took all the best of it because they, too, lived on the labors of their flocks. In return for a church’s riches priesthoods offered the laity God, and a better life in the hereafter. As socialism gains political influence through taxation its liberal priests must finally be exposed as the frauds they are because they cannot offer eternal life to the people who do the work. Indeed, Socialists dare not bestow church membership on the working class because it is absolutely impossible for everyone to live well on tax dollars. Somebody has to do the work and that somebody is NOT going to be a Socialist priest.

    Of course, socialism’s advocates try to cover all bases by claiming:


    Or so the Socialist B.S. goes. The precise translation of that little gem means if you are a tax dollar rich Socialist you are entitled to all you can get, but if you work your ass off struggling to remain one jump ahead of abject poverty and the man with the gun that’s all you need.

    In truth, one God religions sell eternal salvation to the workers while socialism promotes tax slavery without offering any spiritual reward; leading to the obvious conclusion —— socialism is one sorry-ass religion when you get right down to it.
     
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    There is one, one God religion that offers eternity as a gift.
    And maybe if we invited that one God BACK to America we may become blessed again. Like we were before we ushered Him out.
     
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    To The Irish Ram: A religion (clerics) offers eternity! That’s a new one on me. I thought God made the offer.

    To The Irish Ram: Now I’m really puzzled. Which one are you inviting to return? God or religion? I know that in 1966 Time Magazine asked:

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    I had not heard that religion was ill.
     
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    LMAO!

    Thomas Jefferson mocked the bible, George Washington seldom even attended worship services, Adams and Jefferson openly put down the new testament and Madison said we would be better off without religion in the government. They owned slaves. Just when is it you think we became such a "down on your knees" society?

    After the civil war while the nation was devastated from the massive losses, dead soldiers from nearly every family, the religious zealots demanded that "in god we trust" be imprinted on our coins. During the cold war in the 1950's "McCarthyites" managed to place "under god" in our pledge of allegiance...also a time when most were afraid of possible annialation by the Soviets.

    All religion is fear based because most humans cannot accept their mortality...especially the unintelligent, the brainwashed and those who at "tetched" in the head.
     
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    Speaking of pressing and urgent matter regarding religion?

    If the Hulk got into a fight with the GOD Mercury which one would win?
     
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    To Cammmpbell: The Founding Fathers had no use for organized religion, while they clearly believed in a Supreme Being of some kind.

    Also note that “under god” does not mean under religion.


    To editec: Mercury. But then he’d have to fight Mighty Mouse for the championship.
     
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    So the picture of the Continental Congress on their knees is just a bunch of men looking for a contact lens?
     
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