The Life Cycle of Liberty

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    Are we not at a time in history where less than 50% of people pay income taxes? are we not at a time in history where more people want the government to provide for them at the expense of others?

    It seems to me that we are nearing the end of our life cycle of liberty.


    One can argue that the first settlers to colonize North America from Europe were fleeing bondage and servitude to a government; that their spiritual faith led them to strike out against overwhelming odds for the very slim chance of being free to live as they chose.

    That spiritual faith led to an act of great courage. The Declaration of Independence was and still is one of the most important historical documents. ordinary men and women fought against perhaps the greatest power of the world and won their freedom at great cost and sacrifice.

    The courage of a few resulted in the liberty of many. The Constitution was meant to establish a government whose sole purpose was to protect the liberty of its citizens.

    None can argue that it was our liberties and freedoms that led this country to abundance. In less than two hundred years we were a world power.

    But as all great nations we slipped into complacency then;

    Apathy

    And we will end up back in bondage. But it will be less overt than the bondage our ancestors were subjected to. We will be held in bondage by a caring, benevolent government that denies us liberty so as to protect us from ourselves. Choice is removed and we are to be happy to pay for the privilege of being protected in all aspects of our lives. "Bad for you" things like soda and alcohol are taxed. All risk will be removed and no one will ever suffer the consequences of their poor decisions. We are forced to buy what the government tells us we must or suffer the economic penalties. a larger and larger share of the fruits of our labor will be usurped by the government to exercise this control and we will be happy to give it to them. We have been taught that we are helpless, incapable of making our own decisions. We have been conditioned to believe that we are free when in fact the very freedoms our ancestors fought to win are being taken from us.
     
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    Ain't that the truth. :clap2:
     
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    Very good post.
     
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    Skull Pilot, please compare federal income taxes in terms of percentages with those in 1920 and 1930 and 1940. I think you are going to be very surprised at what you discover.
     
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    Why don't you enlighten us. If you have a point to make then make it. If you have an argument present it

    Or are you just another of those who would rather have someone else do your work for you?

    Go ahead and tell me we are freer than we were 50 years ago and prove it if you can.

    Right now we have the government pondering an abomination of a law that will force people to buy insurance and not just any insurance but the insurance the government rtells you is "acceptable" or tax and possibly imprison them if they don't. Not only will the government force us to buy something we may not need or want but it will also penalize you if you have too much insurance with a hefty 40% tax.

    We have the government using our tax dollars to bail out the UAW and to prop up a failed AIG while telling us we will be taxed on soda and other foodstuffs the government has deemed bad for us. We have the government dictating what a private company can pay its employees but that's OK because they protecting us because I guess we are just too fucking stupid to look out for ourselves.

    We have the speaker of the house all but admitting there will be a VAT in the future so that the government can relieve us of more of our hard earned money and exercise more control over the people.

    But go ahead and tell me we are freer than we were just a few decades ago.
     
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    I will call out an argument when silly evidence is presented.

    We are not freer to oppress the weaker members of society today. That's a good thing, isn't it?
     
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    Tell me how the government not taking my money to bail out the UAW and AIG and the government not forcing me to buy insurance i don't like is tantamount to oppressing anyone.

    The way I see it the government is oppressing me by reducing my ability to provide financial security to my family by taking a larger and larger share of money I earned to give it to people who did nothing to earn it.

    We are less free to provide for our families because the government is too fucking big.

    And for the most part the sheep in this country don't care (apathy) and what's worse many of them feel they are entitled to the fruits of my labor in the name of "fairness" or "justice"

    So go ahead and follow the herd into bondage and may your chains lay lightly upon you.
     
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    Even worse.
    We are at a time in history where 10% of the population is in control of 90% of the wealth. We are at a point where for the first time in history the standard of living for the working class is actually decreasing while the wealthy accumulate more personal wealth.
    We are at a point in history where basic necessities like housing, education, healthcare are becoming unaffordable for the average worker.
     
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    We are in a time where people are settling for average instead of aspiring to excel.

    Complacency apathy and a sense of entitlement is what's wrong.

    why bother to sacrifice and worker longer and harder than the next guy to get ahead?

    After all the government will guarantee my mortgage. give me health care and take money from other people so that i can have the same i phone that Bill Gates has.
     

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