The Last Temptation - How American Evangelicals Sold Their Collective Souls For Politics

[Leo123]

form your own opinions & stop being intimidated by my opinions, which is what you imply.

Be a man & not some fucking pussy .........

I did form my own opinion and posted it WITH quotes ( my post 245) directly from the Mueller report from YOUR PDF link!! So far you have 0 to say in rebuttal except to call me a 'fucking pussy.' I guess that's supposed to somehow intimidate me and make you look superior. Actually it does the opposite.

sorry BUT you do not even know how to navigate PDF page numbers so ............

You can't answer my post #245. (Yes that is the actual number of my post) There is no 'alternate' page number like like the shit you posted. You can't answer my questions about the exact verbiage of the very link you provided. You denigrate me because I misunderstood that you were not referring to the actual Mueller report page numbers and insulted me for not knowing which page numbers to which you were referring.

I went to those pages, posted quotes from YOUR link and so far you haven't the balls to refute what I posted other than beating on your drum about page numbers. The Mueller report is based on speculation and the media. Read it for YOURSELF! You fucking Dufus.

 

[bodecea]

Making up a name for someone who is Pro-Life and opposed to Gay Marriage and calling them "Dominionists" and "enemies of the people" just because they oppose Gay Marriage like Obama did in 2012, really isn't a help and seems sort of divisive.

Former President Obama (Scourge of the CRCs) opposed Gay Marriage in 2012? Why do you lie so glibly? Is it part of the CRC agenda?

Obama SAID he opposed Gay Marriage in 2012.

He lied.

His two HAND PICKED Supreme Court justices both voted in favor of the Abomination.

He did? In 2012? Prove it. (I know you won't be able to.....)

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Both of his hand picked, pro-Gay Marriage Supreme Court justices were in office before 2012.

The intent was there, they wouldn't have been chosen if they were in favor of the family.

To believe that Obama didn't vet those two broads before they were appointed, and to think he didn't know what their views were and how they would vote strains credibility.

"broads"? Oh fun. Misogyny to go with your lying about Former President Obama.

 

[caddo kid]

form your own opinions & stop being intimidated by my opinions, which is what you imply.

Be a man & not some fucking pussy .........

I did form my own opinion and posted it WITH quotes ( my post 245) directly from the Mueller report from YOUR PDF link!! So far you have 0 to say in rebuttal except to call me a 'fucking pussy.' I guess that's supposed to somehow intimidate me and make you look superior. Actually it does the opposite.

sorry BUT you do not even know how to navigate PDF page numbers so ............

You can't answer my post #245. (Yes that is the actual number of my post) There is no 'alternate' page number like like the shit you posted. You can't answer my questions about the exact verbiage of the very link you provided. You denigrate me because I misunderstood that you were not referring to the actual Mueller report page numbers and insulted me for not knowing which page numbers to which you were referring.

I went to those pages, posted quotes from YOUR link and so far you haven't the balls to refute what I posted other than beating on your drum about page numbers. The Mueller report is based on speculation and the media. Read it for YOURSELF! You fucking Dufus.

sorry but I cannot help U if you cannot read & U R stupid; that must B you're problem?

certainly is not my problem .............

 

[Dr Grump]

Mind you evangelical Christians made their own bed. Now it's time to lie in it.

 

[Leo123]

sorry but I cannot help U if you cannot read & U R stupid; that must B you're problem?

certainly is not my problem .............

Well, I know how to spell 'you are' and 'be' which is more than I can say for you. Your 'problem' (and you DO have one) is that you post bullshit and then can't back it up. You post a link and lie about it's contents and, when called on it, you regress to calling people 'stupid.'

 

[Polishprince]

Former President Obama (Scourge of the CRCs) opposed Gay Marriage in 2012? Why do you lie so glibly? Is it part of the CRC agenda?

Obama SAID he opposed Gay Marriage in 2012.

He lied.

His two HAND PICKED Supreme Court justices both voted in favor of the Abomination.

He did? In 2012? Prove it. (I know you won't be able to.....)

\


Both of his hand picked, pro-Gay Marriage Supreme Court justices were in office before 2012.

The intent was there, they wouldn't have been chosen if they were in favor of the family.

To believe that Obama didn't vet those two broads before they were appointed, and to think he didn't know what their views were and how they would vote strains credibility.

"broads"? Oh fun. Misogyny to go with your lying about Former President Obama.

Since when is the word "broad" misogynist? Are Dean Martin, Burt Lancaster and Sammy Davis all "misogynists" in you small mind?

 

[Polishprince]

Former President Obama (Scourge of the CRCs) opposed Gay Marriage in 2012? Why do you lie so glibly? Is it part of the CRC agenda?

Obama SAID he opposed Gay Marriage in 2012.

He lied.

His two HAND PICKED Supreme Court justices both voted in favor of the Abomination.

He did? In 2012? Prove it. (I know you won't be able to.....)

\


Both of his hand picked, pro-Gay Marriage Supreme Court justices were in office before 2012.

The intent was there, they wouldn't have been chosen if they were in favor of the family.

To believe that Obama didn't vet those two broads before they were appointed, and to think he didn't know what their views were and how they would vote strains credibility.

"broads"? Oh fun. Misogyny to go with your lying about Former President Obama.

So its your contention that Kagan and Sotomayor, HAND PICKED by Obama, weren't vetted before their names were put up?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Last Temptation - The Atlantic - Pocket

One of the most extraordinary things about our current politics—really, one of the most extraordinary developments of recent political history—is the loyal adherence of religious conservatives to Donald Trump. The president won four-fifths of the votes of white evangelical Christians. This was a higher level of support than either Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush, an outspoken evangelical himself, ever received.

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

In January, following reports that Trump had referred to Haiti and African nations as “shithole countries,” Pastor Robert Jeffress came quickly to his defense. “Apart from the vocabulary attributed to him,” Jeffress wrote, “President Trump is right on target in his sentiment.” After reports emerged that Trump’s lawyer paid hush money to the porn star Stormy Daniels to cover up their alleged sexual encounter, Graham vouched for Trump’s “concern for Christian values.” Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, argued that Trump should be given a “mulligan” for his past infidelity. One can only imagine the explosion of outrage if President Barack Obama had been credibly accused of similar offenses.

The moral convictions of many evangelical leaders have become a function of their partisan identification. This is not mere gullibility; it is utter corruption. Blinded by political tribalism and hatred for their political opponents, these leaders can’t see how they are undermining the causes to which they once dedicated their lives. Little remains of a distinctly Christian public witness.

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The GOP, the party that claimed Jesus for themselves & for a nation, have now ultimately defiled Christianity & Jesus, relegating their claimed 'savior' to nothing more than a political tool in their efforts to attain & retain political power.

And Jesus said to the evangelicals, "I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Meanwhile, the democrat Party is free to worship in the Church of Satan

The Democrats do not claim to be the (political) arbiters of Christianity as the GOP claim.

Stick that up your ass & smoke it.

Come to me my demonic democrat worshipers

 

[bodecea]

Obama SAID he opposed Gay Marriage in 2012.

He lied.

His two HAND PICKED Supreme Court justices both voted in favor of the Abomination.

He did? In 2012? Prove it. (I know you won't be able to.....)

\


Both of his hand picked, pro-Gay Marriage Supreme Court justices were in office before 2012.

The intent was there, they wouldn't have been chosen if they were in favor of the family.

To believe that Obama didn't vet those two broads before they were appointed, and to think he didn't know what their views were and how they would vote strains credibility.

"broads"? Oh fun. Misogyny to go with your lying about Former President Obama.

Since when is the word "broad" misogynist? Are Dean Martin, Burt Lancaster and Sammy Davis all "misogynists" in you small mind?

Yes, they were products of their time.....if you don't know "broad" is misogynist.....that explains a GREAT deal.

 

[Leo123]

Yes, they were products of their time.....if you don't know "broad" is misogynist.....that explains a GREAT deal.

Yeah it means the guy hasn't lost his balls yet.

 

[bodecea]

Yes, they were products of their time.....if you don't know "broad" is misogynist.....that explains a GREAT deal.

Yeah it means the guy hasn't lost his balls yet.

That's right out of the INCEL play book.

 

[Mac1958]

They've made their priorities pretty clear, that's for sure, and the Big Fella doesn't appear to be #1.

Yeah ... Progressives and Democrats calling open season on Christians probably had nothing to do with it ya fucking retard.

So you're a Christian, then?
.

 

[SweetSue92]

I think the premise of the article attached in the OP is about how the GOP has perverted religion, or more specifically Christianity, to attain & maintain political power in the US.

I'm not so sure it has any other overriding message but hey ..........

No, it is now and has always been an attempt to shame Christians into not voting at all.
It is now and has always been an illegitimate attack based on a complete lack of knowledge.

This is it, right here. The liberals want Christians just to disappear from the political scene and let them run it.

That's why they are fighting Trump even on things they themselves supported for a hundred generations like the border wall and immigration compliance. They want to frustrate Christians to just give up on running this nation so they can do it unimpeded.

If you desire some 'political Satan' to represent Christ & Christianity in your politics then Trump is your guy.

If you want to be HONEST about politics in America then take religion & Christianity OUT of your fake shit & make politics about politics.

What do you not get about that?

Until Republicans turn into racist criminal thugs at every level of support and at every economic level like Democrats have don’t complain about Republicans claiming Christianity.

Honestly, I do not "worry" about Republicans.

As The Bible has taught US all, I feel sorry for them & their erroneous & terrible ways.

They will all rot in Hell & that is not my concern.

One pretty sure way to know one is not a Christian?

They proclaim a whole bunch of people they do not know will "rot in Hell".

 

[SweetSue92]

The Last Temptation - The Atlantic - Pocket

One of the most extraordinary things about our current politics—really, one of the most extraordinary developments of recent political history—is the loyal adherence of religious conservatives to Donald Trump. The president won four-fifths of the votes of white evangelical Christians. This was a higher level of support than either Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush, an outspoken evangelical himself, ever received.

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

In January, following reports that Trump had referred to Haiti and African nations as “shithole countries,” Pastor Robert Jeffress came quickly to his defense. “Apart from the vocabulary attributed to him,” Jeffress wrote, “President Trump is right on target in his sentiment.” After reports emerged that Trump’s lawyer paid hush money to the porn star Stormy Daniels to cover up their alleged sexual encounter, Graham vouched for Trump’s “concern for Christian values.” Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, argued that Trump should be given a “mulligan” for his past infidelity. One can only imagine the explosion of outrage if President Barack Obama had been credibly accused of similar offenses.

The moral convictions of many evangelical leaders have become a function of their partisan identification. This is not mere gullibility; it is utter corruption. Blinded by political tribalism and hatred for their political opponents, these leaders can’t see how they are undermining the causes to which they once dedicated their lives. Little remains of a distinctly Christian public witness.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The GOP, the party that claimed Jesus for themselves & for a nation, have now ultimately defiled Christianity & Jesus, relegating their claimed 'savior' to nothing more than a political tool in their efforts to attain & retain political power.

And Jesus said to the evangelicals, "I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Meanwhile, the democrat Party is free to worship in the Church of Satan

The Democrats do not claim to be the (political) arbiters of Christianity as the GOP claim.

Stick that up your ass & smoke it.

You did one better: you put yourself on the Judgment Throne of God.

Leftists have gotten very good at this: they are the new Church Ladies of the uptight Victorian Age we're living in.

 

[SweetSue92]

He did? In 2012? Prove it. (I know you won't be able to.....)

\


Both of his hand picked, pro-Gay Marriage Supreme Court justices were in office before 2012.

The intent was there, they wouldn't have been chosen if they were in favor of the family.

To believe that Obama didn't vet those two broads before they were appointed, and to think he didn't know what their views were and how they would vote strains credibility.

"broads"? Oh fun. Misogyny to go with your lying about Former President Obama.

Since when is the word "broad" misogynist? Are Dean Martin, Burt Lancaster and Sammy Davis all "misogynists" in you small mind?

Yes, they were products of their time.....if you don't know "broad" is misogynist.....that explains a GREAT deal.

That's a perfect example of political correctness

Who cares

 

[Wyatt earp]

They've made their priorities pretty clear, that's for sure, and the Big Fella doesn't appear to be #1.

Yeah ... Progressives and Democrats calling open season on Christians probably had nothing to do with it ya fucking retard.

So you're a Christian, then?
.

Michael?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Making up a name for someone who is Pro-Life and opposed to Gay Marriage and calling them "Dominionists" and "enemies of the people" just because they oppose Gay Marriage like Obama did in 2012, really isn't a help and seems sort of divisive.

Former President Obama (Scourge of the CRCs) opposed Gay Marriage in 2012? Why do you lie so glibly? Is it part of the CRC agenda?

Obama SAID he opposed Gay Marriage in 2012.

He lied.

His two HAND PICKED Supreme Court justices both voted in favor of the Abomination.

He did? In 2012? Prove it. (I know you won't be able to.....)

\


Both of his hand picked, pro-Gay Marriage Supreme Court justices were in office before 2012.

The intent was there, they wouldn't have been chosen if they were in favor of the family.

You claim that Former President Obama was against gay marriage in 2012. Prove it.

 

[hadit]

Thank you for being Exhibit A. Your beautiful language and demonstration of Christian kindness are underwhelming.

that guy is a fucking ass hole in sheep's clothing ....... but hey; let's mix US some politics & religion

It’s funny how filthy, disgusting degenerates hate Christianity as it establishes boundaries, decency, moral standards and keeps a society honest...All things the filthy fucks on the Left hate as they seek some weird free for all LibTardia where anything goes.
It’s almost as if you lowlife pukes don’t know this nation was framed and built on Christian principles.

So, you obviously did not read the article.

You sit there behind your keyboard, an 'arm chair Christian' and proceed to preach to US about "decency, moral standards" and keeping society "honest" when Evangelicals helped to elect a moral pervert & a liar.

I guess you want your cake & to eat it too? LOFL

If you represent what is Christian in America then your faith, if you ever had an ounce, is deader than Hell.

And should Evangelicals vote as a bloc and demand that any candidate that wants their support has to be vetted by the church?

well, I suppose if you desire to pervert politics with religion, or if you desire to pervert religion with politics, then that is the way U wanna go.

But that is U; not me............

Do you see what you are saying? On the one hand, you slam Evangelicals for NOT mixing religion with politics, while on the other, you say it would be perverting religion should they do so. Are you totally oblivious to your rank contradictions or are you just trolling and saying whatever you think sounds good at the time?

I'm testing your stance. You decry Evangelicals voting for someone you do not like, and you attempt to use their faith as the reason you oppose them doing so. So, the natural next step is to see your reaction should they do as you appear to be demanding, ie, insist that any candidate that wants their vote be vetted by and adhere to the precepts of Christianity.

I believe that you, and others like you, would not applaud them for insisting politicians must follow Christ's commands to get their vote, but would instead immediately begin hyperventilating about how they absolutely must not do so.

IOW, you're only upset with Evangelicals who voted for Trump. Evangelicals who voted for Hillary, an equally corrupt and contemptible politician, escape your wrath. Do not think that went unnoticed.

 

[hadit]

I think the premise of the article attached in the OP is about how the GOP has perverted religion, or more specifically Christianity, to attain & maintain political power in the US.

I'm not so sure it has any other overriding message but hey ..........

No, it is now and has always been an attempt to shame Christians into not voting at all.
It is now and has always been an illegitimate attack based on a complete lack of knowledge.

This is it, right here. The liberals want Christians just to disappear from the political scene and let them run it.

That's why they are fighting Trump even on things they themselves supported for a hundred generations like the border wall and immigration compliance. They want to frustrate Christians to just give up on running this nation so they can do it unimpeded.

If you desire some 'political Satan' to represent Christ & Christianity in your politics then Trump is your guy.

If you want to be HONEST about politics in America then take religion & Christianity OUT of your fake shit & make politics about politics.

What do you not get about that?

Until Republicans turn into racist criminal thugs at every level of support and at every economic level like Democrats have don’t complain about Republicans claiming Christianity.

Honestly, I do not "worry" about Republicans.

As The Bible has taught US all, I feel sorry for them & their erroneous & terrible ways.

They will all rot in Hell & that is not my concern.

Perverting religion with politics much?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The Last Temptation - The Atlantic - Pocket

One of the most extraordinary things about our current politics—really, one of the most extraordinary developments of recent political history—is the loyal adherence of religious conservatives to Donald Trump. The president won four-fifths of the votes of white evangelical Christians. This was a higher level of support than either Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush, an outspoken evangelical himself, ever received.

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

In January, following reports that Trump had referred to Haiti and African nations as “shithole countries,” Pastor Robert Jeffress came quickly to his defense. “Apart from the vocabulary attributed to him,” Jeffress wrote, “President Trump is right on target in his sentiment.” After reports emerged that Trump’s lawyer paid hush money to the porn star Stormy Daniels to cover up their alleged sexual encounter, Graham vouched for Trump’s “concern for Christian values.” Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, argued that Trump should be given a “mulligan” for his past infidelity. One can only imagine the explosion of outrage if President Barack Obama had been credibly accused of similar offenses.

The moral convictions of many evangelical leaders have become a function of their partisan identification. This is not mere gullibility; it is utter corruption. Blinded by political tribalism and hatred for their political opponents, these leaders can’t see how they are undermining the causes to which they once dedicated their lives. Little remains of a distinctly Christian public witness.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The GOP, the party that claimed Jesus for themselves & for a nation, have now ultimately defiled Christianity & Jesus, relegating their claimed 'savior' to nothing more than a political tool in their efforts to attain & retain political power.

And Jesus said to the evangelicals, "I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Jesus is no respecter of persons. He will be saying those words to billions indiscriminately.