The "IRS Scandal" Is More Right Wing Propaganda, Bush Shook Down Liberal Groups

[Yurt]

in black label's world, obama is innocent of anything, but bush is completely guilty

makes no sense how you can hold obama innocent, and bush guilty for doing what you claim is the same thing

Actually..if you folks were so upset about this stuff..why weren't you complaining when it was ongoing during the Bush administration.

Eh?

apples/oranges

 

[Yurt]

When did Bush do something like this?

Sen. Carl Levin (D., Mich.) repeatedly pressed the Internal Revenue Service to investigate the tax-exempt status of specific conservative nonprofit organizations in letters to then-IRS commissioner Doug Shulman and director Lois Lerner in 2012.

Levin said he was concerned nonprofit organizations were abusing their tax-exempt status and engaging in partisan politics and requested information from the IRS on 12 organizations.

“Organizations are using Internal Revenue Code section 501(c)(4) to gain tax exempt status while engaging in partisan political campaigns,” wrote Levin in one letter on July 27, 2012. “Making the problem worse is that the IRS knows there is a problem because of the public nature of the activity but has failed to address it.”

He asked whether the 12 organizations “applied for [tax-exempt status]; and if so … received the described exemption for political activity from the IRS.”

Levin’s list contained nine conservative groups, including Club for Growth, Americans for Tax Reform, and Americans for Prosperity. It also included two liberal groups and one centrist group.

Carl Levin pressured IRS to investigate nonprofits | Washington Free Beacon

You actually read what you post?

Doug Shulman and Lois Lerner are Bush appointees.

do you actually read what you post? the person putting pressure on them was a dem, not a bush appointee. funny how you "missed" that.

 

[asterism]

When did Bush do something like this?

Sen. Carl Levin (D., Mich.) repeatedly pressed the Internal Revenue Service to investigate the tax-exempt status of specific conservative nonprofit organizations in letters to then-IRS commissioner Doug Shulman and director Lois Lerner in 2012.

Levin said he was concerned nonprofit organizations were abusing their tax-exempt status and engaging in partisan politics and requested information from the IRS on 12 organizations.

“Organizations are using Internal Revenue Code section 501(c)(4) to gain tax exempt status while engaging in partisan political campaigns,” wrote Levin in one letter on July 27, 2012. “Making the problem worse is that the IRS knows there is a problem because of the public nature of the activity but has failed to address it.”

He asked whether the 12 organizations “applied for [tax-exempt status]; and if so … received the described exemption for political activity from the IRS.”

Levin’s list contained nine conservative groups, including Club for Growth, Americans for Tax Reform, and Americans for Prosperity. It also included two liberal groups and one centrist group.

Carl Levin pressured IRS to investigate nonprofits | Washington Free Beacon

You actually read what you post?

Doug Shulman and Lois Lerner are Bush appointees.

Bush appointees that Obama kept, overseeing a department that acted on a DEMOCRAT's request.

 

[whitehall]

LBJ might well have committed the same crimes as Nixon but I don't recall anyone giving Nixon a pass because of it.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Will the right wing machine tell the truth? Of course not, they are too busy spreading their propaganda,..

When the IRS targeted liberals - Salon.com

The fact, if true, that the IRS has been doing this for years does not make it any less reprehensible, it just makes all the people who defend it even more wrong.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Doesn't matter who does it. It's wrong. Brown_Noser needs to stfu. I love how liberals continue to justify their behavior off of the actions taken by the previous administration! "Bush did it, so therefore we can do it too!"

No. When anyone does it, it's wrong. Period.

What myself, and everyone else in sanity land are doing is laughing our asses off that those on the far right are politicizing and throwing a pissy fit, trying to throw mud in the faces of Obama and the democrats, when the R's did the exact same things X1000, and they remain completely silent,...

The ACLU is the far right?

Dennis Kucinch is far right?

Tell me something, how can you claim to be sane while claiming that everyone who is saying this is wrong is far right?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

in black label's world, obama is innocent of anything, but bush is completely guilty

makes no sense how you can hold obama innocent, and bush guilty for doing what you claim is the same thing

Actually..if you folks were so upset about this stuff..why weren't you complaining when it was ongoing during the Bush administration.

Eh?

I wasn't complaining about the government and being accused of being an anarchist when Bush was president? Do you actually want to go with that?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

It has become more clear from the Inspector General's findings that the IRS was not being ordered and was not encouraged by the White House to do what they did.

Abuses by the IRS have a long history in America. When the NAACP criticized President Bush a few years ago, they got unnecessarily harassed by the IRS as well. Same with that liberal church.

I think this happens because subordinates of either political stripe sometimes let power go to their heads, and they make foolish decisions because of it.

As for this being an Obama scandal, we just haven't gotten any actual proof that this had anything to do with the White House.

In Nixon's days and in a few administrations before his, the White House actually ordered the IRS to go after people, which is far worse than what we're seeing in this instance.

I believe this administration will fire the wrongdoers here and set the example that we would expect any administration to. It will never stop this President's haters from hating him and jumping to conclusions, but that's always the case with blindly partisan demagogues, no matter their party affiliation.

The problem with Republicans is that every little instance of wrongdoing is always CODE RED!! After awhile, you just have to learn to get the full picture and figure out what degree of attention the story really deserves, and this one is not as big a deal as they set it up to be earlier in the week.

The problem with you is that everything is a minor mistake which can easily be fixed with an apology.

 

[Ernie S.]

Bush did it, well I guess this is the inevitable response. Even if it were proven, which it never was, that leftist groups were unfairly targeted, does that make what happened acceptable in your mind?

No, there were never any proof that the Bush administration illegally used the power of the IRS to harass and scrutinize their opponents. However, there is a preponderance of evidence, including an admission and apology, that the IRS under Obama-appointed leadership did specifically target and harass conservative, Jewish, pro-life, Catholic, and Tea Party organizations.

Now think real hard, concentrate, and think is there a difference?

Of course it's proven. And it sets a precedence.

One which you folks want stopped once you are out of power.

#1. Show your proof.
#2. The word you were looking for was precedent.

 

[RoadVirus]

Will the right wing machine tell the truth? Of course not, they are too busy spreading their propaganda,..

When the IRS targeted liberals - Salon.com

Propaganda, huh? It's not propaganda when the IRS admitted doing what they did!

 

[Black_Label]

Will the right wing machine tell the truth? Of course not, they are too busy spreading their propaganda,..

When the IRS targeted liberals - Salon.com

Propaganda, huh? It's not propaganda when the IRS admitted doing what they did!

Why are you defending massive shakedowns under W? I'm sure you will be trashing Bush and the right wing machine for not reporting it as well. I'd hate to think you are nothing but a partisan hack,...

 

[Google]

Bush did it, well I guess this is the inevitable response. Even if it were proven, which it never was, that leftist groups were unfairly targeted, does that make what happened acceptable in your mind?

No, there were never any proof that the Bush administration illegally used the power of the IRS to harass and scrutinize their opponents. However, there is a preponderance of evidence, including an admission and apology, that the IRS under Obama-appointed leadership did specifically target and harass conservative, Jewish, pro-life, Catholic, and Tea Party organizations.

Now think real hard, concentrate, and think is there a difference?

Of course it's proven. And it sets a precedence.

One which you folks want stopped once you are out of power.

Where is the proof again?

 

[Google]

Will the right wing machine tell the truth? Of course not, they are too busy spreading their propaganda,..

When the IRS targeted liberals - Salon.com

Propaganda, huh? It's not propaganda when the IRS admitted doing what they did!

Why are you defending massive shakedowns under W? I'm sure you will be trashing Bush and the right wing machine for not reporting it as well. I'd hate to think you are nothing but a partisan hack,...

You can not possibly be this fucking stupid, can you?

 

[Black_Label]

Propaganda, huh? It's not propaganda when the IRS admitted doing what they did!

Why are you defending massive shakedowns under W? I'm sure you will be trashing Bush and the right wing machine for not reporting it as well. I'd hate to think you are nothing but a partisan hack,...

You can not possibly be this fucking stupid, can you?

That's what I think every time I see one of your, or other one of your fellow right wing nutjob's posts,..

 

[Katzndogz]

So far 500 targets to be silenced by the IRS have been identified.

 

[BlindBoo]

Bush did it, well I guess this is the inevitable response. Even if it were proven, which it never was, that leftist groups were unfairly targeted, does that make what happened acceptable in your mind?

No, there were never any proof that the Bush administration illegally used the power of the IRS to harass and scrutinize their opponents. However, there is a preponderance of evidence, including an admission and apology, that the IRS under Obama-appointed leadership did specifically target and harass conservative, Jewish, pro-life, Catholic, and Tea Party organizations.

Now think real hard, concentrate, and think is there a difference?

Name the head of the IRS that President Obama appointed that this happened under.

Fact is both parties try and use or persuade the IRS to target individuals and groups who oppose their particualor politcal perspective.

 

[Trajan]

Will the right wing machine tell the truth? Of course not, they are too busy spreading their propaganda,..

When the IRS targeted liberals - Salon.com

sup·po·si·tion
/ˌsəpəˈziSHən/
Noun
An uncertain belief.
Synonyms
assumption - presumption - surmise - guess - conjecture


timing is everything, but several of those I remember and this was not the first time say, the naacp was asked to demonstrate its status regards its taxes...did you know that? I could go on, but, hey, BOOOOOOOOSSSHHHHHHH

 

[Trajan]

Bush did it, well I guess this is the inevitable response. Even if it were proven, which it never was, that leftist groups were unfairly targeted, does that make what happened acceptable in your mind?

No, there were never any proof that the Bush administration illegally used the power of the IRS to harass and scrutinize their opponents. However, there is a preponderance of evidence, including an admission and apology, that the IRS under Obama-appointed leadership did specifically target and harass conservative, Jewish, pro-life, Catholic, and Tea Party organizations.

Now think real hard, concentrate, and think is there a difference?

Name the head of the IRS that President Obama appointed that this happened under.

dude, don;'t even go there Tenet got ZERO cover for being a Clinton holdover....

Fact is both parties try and use or persuade the IRS to target individuals and groups who oppose their particualor politcal perspective.

sure , but then theres degree, ala Nixon and Kennedy setting the bar.....well, until now...

 

[Kondor3]

The IRS Scandal is more right-wing propaganda?

Golly-gosh gee willickers, Emmy Lou... quick... somebody tell the President.

I mean... he just spoke out against it - vehemently - somebody should've let him know... ;-)

And... and... and... do ya mean that that poor man... that IRS Director guy... lost his job over nuthin'???!!!

Oh, the injustice of it all... ohhhhhh, the humanity... ;-)

The ship isn't sinking just yet but it's taken-on a nasty 15-degree list to port...

Oh... and the band-leader is breakin' out his best music for the occasion... I saw sumfin' about 'Nearer My God to Thee'...

 

[BlindBoo]

Bush did it, well I guess this is the inevitable response. Even if it were proven, which it never was, that leftist groups were unfairly targeted, does that make what happened acceptable in your mind?

No, there were never any proof that the Bush administration illegally used the power of the IRS to harass and scrutinize their opponents. However, there is a preponderance of evidence, including an admission and apology, that the IRS under Obama-appointed leadership did specifically target and harass conservative, Jewish, pro-life, Catholic, and Tea Party organizations.

Now think real hard, concentrate, and think is there a difference?

dude, don;'t even go there Tenet got ZERO cover for being a Clinton holdover....

Fact is both parties try and use or persuade the IRS to target individuals and groups who oppose their particualor politcal perspective.

sure , but then theres degree, ala Nixon and Kennedy setting the bar.....well, until now...

Hey man, I'm just pointing out the inaccuracy in Googles post.

From what I heard last night, the direct supervisor of the guys who did this shit told them it was wrong and to stop it, but they continued to do it behind her back for another three months before she was able to put an end to it. Hearsay I know.......