The Iron Lady’s Argument Against The TPP

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    The TPP is a treaty that requires Senate ratification, yet it is repeatedly referred to as an international trade deal:

    Simply put, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is a major international trade deal between 12 countries that began negotiations in 2010.​

    Basically, treaties should be agreed upon by two counties. New START is an example although it was a disaster. Breaking a treaty with only one other signatory is hard enough to do because so many people feed on it. Try to imagine breaking a treaty with 11 “partners.”

    More to the point, ratifying a treaty with a bunch of countries smacks of the UN’s ugly hand. I can already smell the UN’s so-called World Court (International Court of Justice) claiming a big chunk of legitimacy from the TPP.


    Where trade promotion authority (TPA) comes into play is as a means of helping to get TPP passed. Those opposed to TPP therefore tend to be opposed to TPA.​

    A TPA (Trade Promotion Authority) fight in the House is misdirection.

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    The Senate passed President Barack Obama's trade authority legislation on Friday. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-KY, who helped pass the legislation, speaks to reporters in the U.S. Capitol following the Republican Senate weekly policy lunch on May 19, 2015. Reuters/Kevin Lamarque

    WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama’s trade agenda legislation passed the Senate, setting up a fight in the House over giving the White House more authority to negotiate new deals. The bill -- called Trade Promotion Authority -- faced staunch opposition from members of the president’s own party, who worked unsuccessfully for weeks to sink the legislation.

    TPA: Senate Passes Obama Trade Agenda Authorization
    By Ginger Gibson on May 22 2015 9:51 PM

    TPA Senate Passes Obama Trade Agenda Authorization

    The House has no constitutional authority ratifying treaties. McConnell & Republicans will sell out this country as quickly as they sold out on the TPA when it comes down to ratifying the TPP. If you like sure things bet on this: McConnell will have no trouble finding enough Democrats to reach the magic number of 67 —— less trouble than Taqiyya the Liar had rounding up more than enough Republicans needed to ratify New START.

    NOTE: Senator Sessions spoke up against the TPP, while ol’ reliable, Senator Hatch, could not betray the country fast enough:


    Senator Sessions’s floor speech against Obamatrade on Friday could go down as one of the most important Senate speeches ever. Already it is getting rave reviews:

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    Unfortunately, Republican Senator Orrin Hatch, floor manager for the bill, prevented Sessions’s amendment from receiving a vote.

    May 23, 2015
    Sen. Sessions explains Obamatrade in key Senate speech
    By Howard Richman

    Blog Sen. Sessions explains Obamatrade in key Senate speech

    This is the clinker that should stop TPP dead in its tracks if it ever gets a fair hearing:

    Some members have objected to fast-track because it doesn’t include provisions to make sure any trade deal, like TPP, passed through it addresses currency manipulation. Currency manipulation has allowed countries to compete unfairly with the U.S. in the global economy. An amendment adding strict and enforceable currency manipulation rules to the bill, offered by Republican Sen. Rob Portman and Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow, was rejected.

    This Is The Difference Between TPP And TPA (Hint: They Are Not The Same Thing)
    Connor D. Wolf
    10:53 PM 05/23/2015

    TPP TPA And How They Are Not At All The Same Thing The Daily Caller

    Currency manipulation is a clever red herring. The true issue is ratifying TPP as the first step to a universal currency. Foreign countries manipulating their currencies against America offers the perfect sales pitch for a universal currency.

    Informed Americans know all of the dangers built into the TPP. So I will turn to Margaret Thatcher defending the Pound and sovereignty. She lays out the best argument anyone could ever make.



    Watch Margaret Thatcher Explain Why the Euro Is a Terrible Idea in 1990
    Her thoughts on giving up the pound for a single European currency? "No. No. No."
    Jordan Weissmann Apr 8, 2013

    Watch Margaret Thatcher Explain Why the Euro Is a Terrible Idea in 1990 - The Atlantic

    Notice that Thatcher defended her country, while our president wants to abandon sovereignty. A universal currency will not happen before he is gone; nevertheless, it follows that he is laying the foundation for handing the dollar to America’s enemies somewhere down the line.

    Finally, withdrawing from the EU is a major political issue in the UK. It is a disgrace that Congress is not debating withdrawing from the United Nations along with all of its destructive treaties sitting on the shelf. In short: There is not a whit of difference between the EU and the UN. It is essential that both abolish national sovereignty for their own survival.
     
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    Critical Alert Jeff Sessions Warns America Against Potentially Disastrous Obama Trade Deal

    “The ‘living agreement’ provision means that participating nations could both add countries to the TPP without Congress’ approval (like China), and could also change any of the terms of the agreement, including in controversial areas such as the entry of foreign workers and foreign employees. Again: these changes would not be subject to congressional approval.

    “This has far-reaching implications: the Congressional Research Service reports that if the United States signs on to an international trade agreement, the implementing legislation of that trade agreement (as a law passed later in time) would supersede conflicting federal, state, and local laws. When this occurs, U.S. workers may be subject to a sudden change in tariffs, regulations, or dispute resolution proceedings in international tribunals outside the U.S.

    “Promoters of TPA should explain why the American people ought to trust the Administration and its foreign partners to revise or rewrite international agreements, or add new members to those agreements, without congressional approval. Does this not represent an abdication of congressional authority?”

    The fourth major point of the Sessions document notes how TPA and the TPP deal it would expedite do not address currency manipulation at all.

    “The biggest open secret in the international market is that other countries are devaluing their currencies to artificially lower the price of their exports while artificially raising the price of our exports to them. The result has been a massive bleeding of domestic manufacturing wealth. In fact, currency manipulation can easily dwarf tariffs in its economic impact,” Sessions wrote.

    Sessions cited how the Obama Treasury Department, in a 2014 biannual report, failed to designate China—which manipulates its currency as determined by any objective standard—as a “currency manipulator,” something Sessions notes that like the George W. Bush administration suggests that the Obama administration “will not stand up to improper currency practices.”
     
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    The third major point of Sessions’ “critical alert” document lays out how passing TPA, and then TPP, means the United States is effectively “ceding sovereign authority to to international powers.” Sessions cites the U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) to make his case, laying out how the so-called “living agreement” inside the TPP deal means that the deal could be changed by other countries and the president without congressional approval whatsoever.
     
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    Nothing new here but the players involved...................the status quo teaming up with Obama to give more power to the executive to create Free Trade Rules at a later date that need no Congressional Approval...................The Rhino's of the GOP in step and key with the administration...............

    Who's pockets will be lined as a result......................which is all it's really about anymore anyway............

    Treaties should be done via the Constitution................or NOT AT ALL...........Through the Ratification process of the Senate...............This worked well for over 200 years until the Ass hats of Free Trade said it was broken.

    Again, Constitution is being pissed on.
     
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    Sessions Announces No Vote On Final Passage Of Fast-Track - News Releases - Senator Jeff Sessions

    “Stubbornly, our political elites have treated trade as a matter of religion. To them, there is no such thing as a bad deal. They know American workers lose jobs when we allow trading partners to cheat. But they insist it is all for the greater good… We have allowed state-dominated and mercantilist trading partners to maintain their varied and elaborate non-tariff barriers, exporting their unemployment to our shores… This is why the American worker keeps ending up on the losing end.”

    “Under fast-track, Congress transfers its most basic legislative powers to the Executive for six years. Any yet-unseen global pacts, no matter how sweeping, are guaranteed a “fast-track” to congressional adoption. No amendments. No ability to strike any offending provision. And no chance to apply either the 60- or 67-vote thresholds used for important legislation and treaties.

    I asked the President how his fast-tracked proposals would impact jobs, wages, and trade deficits. He would not answer. The bill’s promoters also refused to answer when asked whether their proposal would reduce net manufacturing jobs in the United States. That is because they know it will. Like the South Korean trade deal—which doubled our trade deficit after promises of a trade renaissance—this proposal will widen further our trade deficits and eliminate jobs.

    Our country has not been engaged in reciprocal free trade but, as the Chairman Emeritus of Nucor Steel explained, “the enablement of foreign mercantilism” and “unilateral trade disarmament.” We have allowed state-dominated and mercantilist trading partners to maintain their varied and elaborate non-tariff barriers, exporting their unemployment to our shores.
     
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    To eagle1462010: NOT AT ALL —— when it means United Nations treaties. Every one the UN’s unratified treaties sounds good until you see the Devil in the details.

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    To eagle1462010: Senator Sessions is one of the few good ones.
     
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    He is my Senator and always stands tall on the issues..................As he has done again.
     
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    Senate Passes Trade Promotion Authority

    Five Republicans voted no: Susan Collins of Maine, Mike Lee of Utah, Rand Paul of Kentucky,Jeff Sessions of Alabama and Richard C. Shelby of Alabama.

    One Republican senator did not vote: Michael B. Enzi of Wyoming.

    The 14 Democrats who backed the president included Michael Bennet of Colorado, Maria Cantwell of Washington, Benjamin L. Cardin of Maryland, Thomas R. Carper of Delaware,Chris Coons of Delaware, Dianne Feinstein of California, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, Tim Kaine of Virginia, Claire McCaskill of Missouri, Patty Murray of Washington, Bill Nelson of Florida, Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Mark Warner of Virginia and Ron Wyden of Oregon.
     
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    Bone Head has already said it's a No Brainer.............and will push for a quick vote in the House....................

    More Free Trade.............more lost jobs.....................more kick backs by the Political Whores who run this country.

    Hat's off to the Senators from Alabama.............BRAVO ZULU for your effort.............ROLL TIDE!
     
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    To eagle1462010: Like I said:

     

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