CDZ The Hidden History of the La Raza or Chicano Movement

[JimBowie1958]

Lets get the basics out of the way. Chicano used to mean primarily poor Mestizos and were looked down upon by most Mexicans. The word Chicano was appropriated to basically mean all Hispanics in the student movements of the 1970s that spawned MECHa, the Raza Unida Party, the Brown Berets, and the general la Raza movement.

The movement focused primarily on Chicano Nationalism, but as white liberals began to assert that this was too narrow, the Chicano leadership shifted to the generic use of la Raza instead.
Aztlan
The Brown Berets are Chicano Revolutionary Nationalists. The basic premise of Chicano
Revolutionary Nationalism is this: the empowerment of our communities, the belief in self
determination, and to fight for our national liberation from foreign oppressors.

Chicana/os, as Natives of this land, have the responsibility and the obligation to fight towards and
proactively prepare for the day that our liberation will come. Everything we do and every resource
must be committed to achieving that goal.

Is it wrong to believe in something for ourselves? We have heard time and again well meaning
activists decry the idea of Nationalism claiming that it is an evil thing. This they base off of writings of bourgeoisie White Middle Class Leftists who compare Nationalism with Hitler's Nazism, Russo's
Fascism, and America's Patriotism. Why is it though that for the White Left, and their supporters in Raza circles, they are supportive of the Cuban Revolution, the Palestinian Struggle, the IRA's fight against British Colonialism, Venezuela's Socialist Reforms, and countless other Nationalist struggles around the world, yet when Chicanos say “We want liberation too” they will immediately denounce it as something bad. They tell us “Why can't you just be human?” “Why not just be an internationalist?” What we want to know is what makes every other struggle valid and ours not?

It is arrogant and hypocritical when bourgeoisie White Leftists try to dictate to us what is a valid
struggle and they convince Chicanos to follow their thinking. ...

White Leftists, regardless of how sympathetic they are to our struggle, still enjoy White privilege and
they are innately scared to think of what would happen to them if they can no longer control the world. It is why they still cling to American exceptionalism and they will denounce anything that is not according to their liking or created and controlled by them. We cannot depend on bourgeoisie White Leftists to fight our battles or be fully supportive of our end goal because the Chicano liberation of Aztlan would have such a powerful effect that it would change the entire world! It would destabilize the White power structure and bring it crashing down in every continent it has it's tentacles.

So the Chicano leadership shifted tactics and play nice as 'la Raza' promoters, but even many Hispanics took issue with that phrase as well. Immigration and the SPLC
The Chicano movement embraced the ideology of Mexican intellectual Jose Vasconcelos, who wrote that the joining of the indigenous people of Latin America and the Spanish conquistadors was producing “la raza cosmica,” the cosmic race. As Chicano nationalism surged in the 1960s, the movement embraced it. Scholars Guillermo Lux and Maurilio E. Vigil wrote: “Vasoncelos developed a systematic theory which argued that climatic and geographic conditions and mixture of Spanish and Indian races created a superior race.”61

“La raza” was a source of pride for many Latinos, the most militant of whom adopted the motto: “Por la raza todo, fuera de la raza nada” — “For the race, everything, outside the race, nothing.” But it drew resistance from many leaders who sought a place for their people within the broader American society. Cesar Chavez was one of the most outspoken critics.

“I hear about la raza more and more,” Chavez told biographer Peter Matthiessen. “Some people don’t look at it as racism, but when you say ‘la raza,’ you are saying an anti-gringo thing, and our fear is that it won’t stop there. Today it’s anti-gringo, tomorrow it will be anti-Negro, and the day after it will be anti-Filipino, anti-Puerto Rican. And then it will be anti-poor-Mexican, and anti-darker-skinned Mexican.”62

U.S. Rep. Henry Gonzalez (D-Texas), a liberal Democrat, attacked the formation of the Chicano Movement party, La Raza Unida, as “reverse racism…. as evil as the deadly hatred of the Nazis.” Denouncing what he called “the politics of race,” he said.” “Only one thing counts to them, la raza above all.”63

In recent years, as the NCLR has gained prominence in the political mainstream, its name has caused strains even within the organization. While some Mexican-Americans say they have adopted the term “la raza” without embracing its militant connotations, others have been uncomfortable with an organization whose very name emphasizes racial identity.

Janet Murguia acknowledged the difficulty in 2008 to columnist Ruben Navarrette, Jr., who criticized the name as “a musty throwback to the 1960s.”64

“We take a lot of heat for our name,” Murguia said, acknowledging that there had been discussions about changing it. “But historically I think it’s something that our community feels wedded to.”

Now who was this Jose Vasconcelos?
If you think nationalist Mexican chauvinism sounds fascist, you’re right. Infact, it is rooted in classic fascism. It springs from the mind of Jose Vasconcelos, a genuine Mexican Nazi propagandist who was on the payroll of Nazi Germany. During World War II, Vasconcelos was the editor of
"Timon", a German magazine promoting the Nazi agenda. Vasconcelos, a philosopher who loathed people of “anglosajon,” African and Jewish descent (among others), dreamed of forging a master “fifth race" of Spaniards (with maybe a hint of Amerindian, which Vasconcelosgrudgingly allows for tactical reasons) to defeat the hated “English” inNorth America, thereby claiming its rightful place at the top of humanity. Not surprisingly, Vasconcelos fit his own definition of perfection perfectly. Vasconcelos, 1882-1959, who once ran for the Mexican presidency, was
an influential education reformer and the author of La Raza Cosmica (TheCosmic Race; 1925) published in the very same year and under fascist influences as Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler.
In it, Vasconcelos foresaw his fifth race arising from superior Mexican racial elements—after having
mitigated African and dysgenicMexican traits. While apologistshave attempted to spin the book into a paean of tolerance throughracial diversity, in fact, it’s the opposite. Vasconcelos was a fascist, but he had to find a way to play the hand he’d been dealt—which was a very mestizo people. Vasconcelos turns tolerance and racial diversity on its head, by defining which racial elementshould dominate a master race of “cosmic” Mexicans. He choseSpaniards. Vasconcelos’ “La Raza,”theory is the Mexican equivalent of the Nazi “Aryan” theory. Vasconceloselevates other Latin Americans if they are predominately Spaniard—in thesame way that Nazis included various non-Germans as “Aryan” if predominately Germanic. Despite its inherent racism, his tract has escaped real criticism in the United States because of an environment of identity politics which permits “protected groups” like “Hispanics” to shield La Raza Cosmica from public scrutiny, even though it is seminal to
the racist nature of Mexican-American organizations like La MEChA, agroup which uses the slogan “For the Race, everything, outside the Race, nothing,” rabidly anti-Semitic websites like
Voz de Atzlan (Atzlan is the name for a race-based “Bronze Nation” comprising Mexico and much or all the rest of the Americas), and of course, La Raza, the largest Hispanic ethnic lobby in the United States.

Now think what you want about how deeply connected all these separate organizations are to one another, but consider two points here that are critical to get he full importance of the la Raza movement. 1. Is that they focus their efforts solely on their own ethnicity and refuse to help needy people of other ethnicities even in their own community. and 2, they have NEVER RENOUNCED the El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan, published in 1968.

Some of the highlights of that document never renounced by an la Raza organization unless they lose their right to use that label.

In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal "gringo" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlán from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny.

We are free and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our hearts. Aztlán belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent. Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner "gabacho" who exploits our riches and destroys our culture. With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlán.

This is not about a struggle for civil rights. The La Raza movement is at its roots fascistic, racist, and it is a stealth movement to reconquer all of North America for the Bronze peoples, i.e. THE RACE and there is no room for whites or blacks on that Bronze Continent.

 

[Asclepias]

Lets get the basics out of the way. Chicano used to mean primarily poor Mestizos and were looked down upon by most Mexicans. The word Chicano was appropriated to basically mean all Hispanics in the student movements of the 1970s that spawned MECHa, the Raza Unida Party, the Brown Berets, and the general la Raza movement.

The movement focused primarily on Chicano Nationalism, but as white liberals began to assert that this was too narrow, the Chicano leadership shifted to the generic use of la Raza instead.
Aztlan
The Brown Berets are Chicano Revolutionary Nationalists. The basic premise of Chicano
Revolutionary Nationalism is this: the empowerment of our communities, the belief in self
determination, and to fight for our national liberation from foreign oppressors.

Chicana/os, as Natives of this land, have the responsibility and the obligation to fight towards and
proactively prepare for the day that our liberation will come. Everything we do and every resource
must be committed to achieving that goal.

Is it wrong to believe in something for ourselves? We have heard time and again well meaning
activists decry the idea of Nationalism claiming that it is an evil thing. This they base off of writings of bourgeoisie White Middle Class Leftists who compare Nationalism with Hitler's Nazism, Russo's
Fascism, and America's Patriotism. Why is it though that for the White Left, and their supporters in Raza circles, they are supportive of the Cuban Revolution, the Palestinian Struggle, the IRA's fight against British Colonialism, Venezuela's Socialist Reforms, and countless other Nationalist struggles around the world, yet when Chicanos say “We want liberation too” they will immediately denounce it as something bad. They tell us “Why can't you just be human?” “Why not just be an internationalist?” What we want to know is what makes every other struggle valid and ours not?

It is arrogant and hypocritical when bourgeoisie White Leftists try to dictate to us what is a valid
struggle and they convince Chicanos to follow their thinking. ...

White Leftists, regardless of how sympathetic they are to our struggle, still enjoy White privilege and
they are innately scared to think of what would happen to them if they can no longer control the world. It is why they still cling to American exceptionalism and they will denounce anything that is not according to their liking or created and controlled by them. We cannot depend on bourgeoisie White Leftists to fight our battles or be fully supportive of our end goal because the Chicano liberation of Aztlan would have such a powerful effect that it would change the entire world! It would destabilize the White power structure and bring it crashing down in every continent it has it's tentacles.

So the Chicano leadership shifted tactics and play nice as 'la Raza' promoters, but even many Hispanics took issue with that phrase as well. Immigration and the SPLC
The Chicano movement embraced the ideology of Mexican intellectual Jose Vasconcelos, who wrote that the joining of the indigenous people of Latin America and the Spanish conquistadors was producing “la raza cosmica,” the cosmic race. As Chicano nationalism surged in the 1960s, the movement embraced it. Scholars Guillermo Lux and Maurilio E. Vigil wrote: “Vasoncelos developed a systematic theory which argued that climatic and geographic conditions and mixture of Spanish and Indian races created a superior race.”61

“La raza” was a source of pride for many Latinos, the most militant of whom adopted the motto: “Por la raza todo, fuera de la raza nada” — “For the race, everything, outside the race, nothing.” But it drew resistance from many leaders who sought a place for their people within the broader American society. Cesar Chavez was one of the most outspoken critics.

“I hear about la raza more and more,” Chavez told biographer Peter Matthiessen. “Some people don’t look at it as racism, but when you say ‘la raza,’ you are saying an anti-gringo thing, and our fear is that it won’t stop there. Today it’s anti-gringo, tomorrow it will be anti-Negro, and the day after it will be anti-Filipino, anti-Puerto Rican. And then it will be anti-poor-Mexican, and anti-darker-skinned Mexican.”62

U.S. Rep. Henry Gonzalez (D-Texas), a liberal Democrat, attacked the formation of the Chicano Movement party, La Raza Unida, as “reverse racism…. as evil as the deadly hatred of the Nazis.” Denouncing what he called “the politics of race,” he said.” “Only one thing counts to them, la raza above all.”63

In recent years, as the NCLR has gained prominence in the political mainstream, its name has caused strains even within the organization. While some Mexican-Americans say they have adopted the term “la raza” without embracing its militant connotations, others have been uncomfortable with an organization whose very name emphasizes racial identity.

Janet Murguia acknowledged the difficulty in 2008 to columnist Ruben Navarrette, Jr., who criticized the name as “a musty throwback to the 1960s.”64

“We take a lot of heat for our name,” Murguia said, acknowledging that there had been discussions about changing it. “But historically I think it’s something that our community feels wedded to.”

Now who was this Jose Vasconcelos?
If you think nationalist Mexican chauvinism sounds fascist, you’re right. Infact, it is rooted in classic fascism. It springs from the mind of Jose Vasconcelos, a genuine Mexican Nazi propagandist who was on the payroll of Nazi Germany. During World War II, Vasconcelos was the editor of
"Timon", a German magazine promoting the Nazi agenda. Vasconcelos, a philosopher who loathed people of “anglosajon,” African and Jewish descent (among others), dreamed of forging a master “fifth race" of Spaniards (with maybe a hint of Amerindian, which Vasconcelosgrudgingly allows for tactical reasons) to defeat the hated “English” inNorth America, thereby claiming its rightful place at the top of humanity. Not surprisingly, Vasconcelos fit his own definition of perfection perfectly. Vasconcelos, 1882-1959, who once ran for the Mexican presidency, was
an influential education reformer and the author of La Raza Cosmica (TheCosmic Race; 1925) published in the very same year and under fascist influences as Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler.
In it, Vasconcelos foresaw his fifth race arising from superior Mexican racial elements—after having
mitigated African and dysgenicMexican traits. While apologistshave attempted to spin the book into a paean of tolerance throughracial diversity, in fact, it’s the opposite. Vasconcelos was a fascist, but he had to find a way to play the hand he’d been dealt—which was a very mestizo people. Vasconcelos turns tolerance and racial diversity on its head, by defining which racial elementshould dominate a master race of “cosmic” Mexicans. He choseSpaniards. Vasconcelos’ “La Raza,”theory is the Mexican equivalent of the Nazi “Aryan” theory. Vasconceloselevates other Latin Americans if they are predominately Spaniard—in thesame way that Nazis included various non-Germans as “Aryan” if predominately Germanic. Despite its inherent racism, his tract has escaped real criticism in the United States because of an environment of identity politics which permits “protected groups” like “Hispanics” to shield La Raza Cosmica from public scrutiny, even though it is seminal to
the racist nature of Mexican-American organizations like La MEChA, agroup which uses the slogan “For the Race, everything, outside the Race, nothing,” rabidly anti-Semitic websites like
Voz de Atzlan (Atzlan is the name for a race-based “Bronze Nation” comprising Mexico and much or all the rest of the Americas), and of course, La Raza, the largest Hispanic ethnic lobby in the United States.

Now think what you want about how deeply connected all these separate organizations are to one another, but consider two points here that are critical to get he full importance of the la Raza movement. 1. Is that they focus their efforts solely on their own ethnicity and refuse to help needy people of other ethnicities even in their own community. and 2, they have NEVER RENOUNCED the El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan, published in 1968.

Some of the highlights of that document never renounced by an la Raza organization unless they lose their right to use that label.

In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal "gringo" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlán from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny.

We are free and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our hearts. Aztlán belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent. Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner "gabacho" who exploits our riches and destroys our culture. With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlán.

This is not about a struggle for civil rights. The La Raza movement is at its roots fascistic, racist, and it is a stealth movement to reconquer all of North America for the Bronze peoples, i.e. THE RACE and there is no room for whites or blacks on that Bronze Continent.

Sorry guy. Blacks and Browns have been working together for decades.

Brown Berets - Oakland - LocalWiki

"The Brown Berets in Oakland were also in solidarity with the Black Panthers. Both organizations worked together. They held Black and Chicano unity student conferences and the Brown Berets would attend the Free Huey Newton rallies and protest when Huey Newton was facing murder charges for a shoot-out with an Oakland Police officer."

 

[Asclepias]

‘Radical Brownies,’ ages 8 to 11, don brown berets and tout social justice

"Young members of a new girls troop in Oakland called the “Radical Brownies” don brown berets and participate in “Black Lives Matter” protests in order to help spread a message of racial justice."

 

[Fishlore]

The Euros invaded México in 1520. Look around any city or town on México and you can see that the Americanos won. Now the victorious raza is invading el Norte to take back the territory seized illegally in 1848. It took four centuries to recapture México south of the Río Grande. The northern territories won't take even half as long. La venganza won't be pretty, Smart gringos will emigrage to Israel while there is still time.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The Euros invaded México in 1520. Look around any city or town on México and you can see that the Americanos won. Now the victorious raza is invading el Norte to take back the territory seized illegally in 1848.

IT was agreed to by treaty so there was nothing illegal about it.

It took four centuries to recapture México south of the Río Grande. The northern territories won't take even half as long. La venganza won't be pretty, Smart gringos will emigrage to Israel while there is still time.

Lol, come and take it, dude.

 

[jwoodie]

Lets get the basics out of the way. Chicano used to mean primarily poor Mestizos and were looked down upon by most Mexicans. The word Chicano was appropriated to basically mean all Hispanics in the student movements of the 1970s that spawned MECHa, the Raza Unida Party, the Brown Berets, and the general la Raza movement.

The movement focused primarily on Chicano Nationalism, but as white liberals began to assert that this was too narrow, the Chicano leadership shifted to the generic use of la Raza instead.
Aztlan
The Brown Berets are Chicano Revolutionary Nationalists. The basic premise of Chicano
Revolutionary Nationalism is this: the empowerment of our communities, the belief in self
determination, and to fight for our national liberation from foreign oppressors.

Chicana/os, as Natives of this land, have the responsibility and the obligation to fight towards and
proactively prepare for the day that our liberation will come. Everything we do and every resource
must be committed to achieving that goal.

Is it wrong to believe in something for ourselves? We have heard time and again well meaning
activists decry the idea of Nationalism claiming that it is an evil thing. This they base off of writings of bourgeoisie White Middle Class Leftists who compare Nationalism with Hitler's Nazism, Russo's
Fascism, and America's Patriotism. Why is it though that for the White Left, and their supporters in Raza circles, they are supportive of the Cuban Revolution, the Palestinian Struggle, the IRA's fight against British Colonialism, Venezuela's Socialist Reforms, and countless other Nationalist struggles around the world, yet when Chicanos say “We want liberation too” they will immediately denounce it as something bad. They tell us “Why can't you just be human?” “Why not just be an internationalist?” What we want to know is what makes every other struggle valid and ours not?

It is arrogant and hypocritical when bourgeoisie White Leftists try to dictate to us what is a valid
struggle and they convince Chicanos to follow their thinking. ...

White Leftists, regardless of how sympathetic they are to our struggle, still enjoy White privilege and
they are innately scared to think of what would happen to them if they can no longer control the world. It is why they still cling to American exceptionalism and they will denounce anything that is not according to their liking or created and controlled by them. We cannot depend on bourgeoisie White Leftists to fight our battles or be fully supportive of our end goal because the Chicano liberation of Aztlan would have such a powerful effect that it would change the entire world! It would destabilize the White power structure and bring it crashing down in every continent it has it's tentacles.

So the Chicano leadership shifted tactics and play nice as 'la Raza' promoters, but even many Hispanics took issue with that phrase as well. Immigration and the SPLC
The Chicano movement embraced the ideology of Mexican intellectual Jose Vasconcelos, who wrote that the joining of the indigenous people of Latin America and the Spanish conquistadors was producing “la raza cosmica,” the cosmic race. As Chicano nationalism surged in the 1960s, the movement embraced it. Scholars Guillermo Lux and Maurilio E. Vigil wrote: “Vasoncelos developed a systematic theory which argued that climatic and geographic conditions and mixture of Spanish and Indian races created a superior race.”61

“La raza” was a source of pride for many Latinos, the most militant of whom adopted the motto: “Por la raza todo, fuera de la raza nada” — “For the race, everything, outside the race, nothing.” But it drew resistance from many leaders who sought a place for their people within the broader American society. Cesar Chavez was one of the most outspoken critics.

“I hear about la raza more and more,” Chavez told biographer Peter Matthiessen. “Some people don’t look at it as racism, but when you say ‘la raza,’ you are saying an anti-gringo thing, and our fear is that it won’t stop there. Today it’s anti-gringo, tomorrow it will be anti-Negro, and the day after it will be anti-Filipino, anti-Puerto Rican. And then it will be anti-poor-Mexican, and anti-darker-skinned Mexican.”62

U.S. Rep. Henry Gonzalez (D-Texas), a liberal Democrat, attacked the formation of the Chicano Movement party, La Raza Unida, as “reverse racism…. as evil as the deadly hatred of the Nazis.” Denouncing what he called “the politics of race,” he said.” “Only one thing counts to them, la raza above all.”63

In recent years, as the NCLR has gained prominence in the political mainstream, its name has caused strains even within the organization. While some Mexican-Americans say they have adopted the term “la raza” without embracing its militant connotations, others have been uncomfortable with an organization whose very name emphasizes racial identity.

Janet Murguia acknowledged the difficulty in 2008 to columnist Ruben Navarrette, Jr., who criticized the name as “a musty throwback to the 1960s.”64

“We take a lot of heat for our name,” Murguia said, acknowledging that there had been discussions about changing it. “But historically I think it’s something that our community feels wedded to.”

Now who was this Jose Vasconcelos?
If you think nationalist Mexican chauvinism sounds fascist, you’re right. Infact, it is rooted in classic fascism. It springs from the mind of Jose Vasconcelos, a genuine Mexican Nazi propagandist who was on the payroll of Nazi Germany. During World War II, Vasconcelos was the editor of
"Timon", a German magazine promoting the Nazi agenda. Vasconcelos, a philosopher who loathed people of “anglosajon,” African and Jewish descent (among others), dreamed of forging a master “fifth race" of Spaniards (with maybe a hint of Amerindian, which Vasconcelosgrudgingly allows for tactical reasons) to defeat the hated “English” inNorth America, thereby claiming its rightful place at the top of humanity. Not surprisingly, Vasconcelos fit his own definition of perfection perfectly. Vasconcelos, 1882-1959, who once ran for the Mexican presidency, was
an influential education reformer and the author of La Raza Cosmica (TheCosmic Race; 1925) published in the very same year and under fascist influences as Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler.
In it, Vasconcelos foresaw his fifth race arising from superior Mexican racial elements—after having
mitigated African and dysgenicMexican traits. While apologistshave attempted to spin the book into a paean of tolerance throughracial diversity, in fact, it’s the opposite. Vasconcelos was a fascist, but he had to find a way to play the hand he’d been dealt—which was a very mestizo people. Vasconcelos turns tolerance and racial diversity on its head, by defining which racial elementshould dominate a master race of “cosmic” Mexicans. He choseSpaniards. Vasconcelos’ “La Raza,”theory is the Mexican equivalent of the Nazi “Aryan” theory. Vasconceloselevates other Latin Americans if they are predominately Spaniard—in thesame way that Nazis included various non-Germans as “Aryan” if predominately Germanic. Despite its inherent racism, his tract has escaped real criticism in the United States because of an environment of identity politics which permits “protected groups” like “Hispanics” to shield La Raza Cosmica from public scrutiny, even though it is seminal to
the racist nature of Mexican-American organizations like La MEChA, agroup which uses the slogan “For the Race, everything, outside the Race, nothing,” rabidly anti-Semitic websites like
Voz de Atzlan (Atzlan is the name for a race-based “Bronze Nation” comprising Mexico and much or all the rest of the Americas), and of course, La Raza, the largest Hispanic ethnic lobby in the United States.

Now think what you want about how deeply connected all these separate organizations are to one another, but consider two points here that are critical to get he full importance of the la Raza movement. 1. Is that they focus their efforts solely on their own ethnicity and refuse to help needy people of other ethnicities even in their own community. and 2, they have NEVER RENOUNCED the El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan, published in 1968.

Some of the highlights of that document never renounced by an la Raza organization unless they lose their right to use that label.

In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal "gringo" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlán from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny.

We are free and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our hearts. Aztlán belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent. Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner "gabacho" who exploits our riches and destroys our culture. With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlán.

This is not about a struggle for civil rights. The La Raza movement is at its roots fascistic, racist, and it is a stealth movement to reconquer all of North America for the Bronze peoples, i.e. THE RACE and there is no room for whites or blacks on that Bronze Continent.

Sorry guy. Blacks and Browns have been working together for decades.

Brown Berets - Oakland - LocalWiki

"The Brown Berets in Oakland were also in solidarity with the Black Panthers. Both organizations worked together. They held Black and Chicano unity student conferences and the Brown Berets would attend the Free Huey Newton rallies and protest when Huey Newton was facing murder charges for a shoot-out with an Oakland Police officer."

Yeah, they get along so well in prison...

 

[jwoodie]

The Euros invaded México in 1520. Look around any city or town on México and you can see that the Americanos won. Now the victorious raza is invading el Norte to take back the territory seized illegally in 1848. It took four centuries to recapture México south of the Río Grande. The northern territories won't take even half as long. La venganza won't be pretty, Smart gringos will emigrage to Israel while there is still time.

A lot of Mexican-Americans know what a shithole they came from. The others better wake up before they bring it here.

 

[Elvis Obama]

A racist screed, completely inappropriate for the Clean Debate Zone. The darkies never had it so good before they started getting uppity. Debate!!

 

[Sunni Man]

‘Radical Brownies,’ ages 8 to 11, don brown berets and tout social justice

"Young members of a new girls troop in Oakland called the “Radical Brownies” don brown berets and participate in “Black Lives Matter” protests in order to help spread a message of racial justice."

Child abuse. ......

 

[JimBowie1958]

A racist screed, completely inappropriate for the Clean Debate Zone. The darkies never had it so good before they started getting uppity. Debate!!

There is no racist screed here except for the quotes from La Raza people.

You just dont like the discussion and want it shut down.

 

[JimBowie1958]

‘Radical Brownies,’ ages 8 to 11, don brown berets and tout social justice

"Young members of a new girls troop in Oakland called the “Radical Brownies” don brown berets and participate in “Black Lives Matter” protests in order to help spread a message of racial justice."

Child abuse. ......

Or worse; self segregating them from the rest of main stream American society.

 

[Asclepias]

Lets get the basics out of the way. Chicano used to mean primarily poor Mestizos and were looked down upon by most Mexicans. The word Chicano was appropriated to basically mean all Hispanics in the student movements of the 1970s that spawned MECHa, the Raza Unida Party, the Brown Berets, and the general la Raza movement.

The movement focused primarily on Chicano Nationalism, but as white liberals began to assert that this was too narrow, the Chicano leadership shifted to the generic use of la Raza instead.
Aztlan
The Brown Berets are Chicano Revolutionary Nationalists. The basic premise of Chicano
Revolutionary Nationalism is this: the empowerment of our communities, the belief in self
determination, and to fight for our national liberation from foreign oppressors.

Chicana/os, as Natives of this land, have the responsibility and the obligation to fight towards and
proactively prepare for the day that our liberation will come. Everything we do and every resource
must be committed to achieving that goal.

Is it wrong to believe in something for ourselves? We have heard time and again well meaning
activists decry the idea of Nationalism claiming that it is an evil thing. This they base off of writings of bourgeoisie White Middle Class Leftists who compare Nationalism with Hitler's Nazism, Russo's
Fascism, and America's Patriotism. Why is it though that for the White Left, and their supporters in Raza circles, they are supportive of the Cuban Revolution, the Palestinian Struggle, the IRA's fight against British Colonialism, Venezuela's Socialist Reforms, and countless other Nationalist struggles around the world, yet when Chicanos say “We want liberation too” they will immediately denounce it as something bad. They tell us “Why can't you just be human?” “Why not just be an internationalist?” What we want to know is what makes every other struggle valid and ours not?

It is arrogant and hypocritical when bourgeoisie White Leftists try to dictate to us what is a valid
struggle and they convince Chicanos to follow their thinking. ...

White Leftists, regardless of how sympathetic they are to our struggle, still enjoy White privilege and
they are innately scared to think of what would happen to them if they can no longer control the world. It is why they still cling to American exceptionalism and they will denounce anything that is not according to their liking or created and controlled by them. We cannot depend on bourgeoisie White Leftists to fight our battles or be fully supportive of our end goal because the Chicano liberation of Aztlan would have such a powerful effect that it would change the entire world! It would destabilize the White power structure and bring it crashing down in every continent it has it's tentacles.

So the Chicano leadership shifted tactics and play nice as 'la Raza' promoters, but even many Hispanics took issue with that phrase as well. Immigration and the SPLC
The Chicano movement embraced the ideology of Mexican intellectual Jose Vasconcelos, who wrote that the joining of the indigenous people of Latin America and the Spanish conquistadors was producing “la raza cosmica,” the cosmic race. As Chicano nationalism surged in the 1960s, the movement embraced it. Scholars Guillermo Lux and Maurilio E. Vigil wrote: “Vasoncelos developed a systematic theory which argued that climatic and geographic conditions and mixture of Spanish and Indian races created a superior race.”61

“La raza” was a source of pride for many Latinos, the most militant of whom adopted the motto: “Por la raza todo, fuera de la raza nada” — “For the race, everything, outside the race, nothing.” But it drew resistance from many leaders who sought a place for their people within the broader American society. Cesar Chavez was one of the most outspoken critics.

“I hear about la raza more and more,” Chavez told biographer Peter Matthiessen. “Some people don’t look at it as racism, but when you say ‘la raza,’ you are saying an anti-gringo thing, and our fear is that it won’t stop there. Today it’s anti-gringo, tomorrow it will be anti-Negro, and the day after it will be anti-Filipino, anti-Puerto Rican. And then it will be anti-poor-Mexican, and anti-darker-skinned Mexican.”62

U.S. Rep. Henry Gonzalez (D-Texas), a liberal Democrat, attacked the formation of the Chicano Movement party, La Raza Unida, as “reverse racism…. as evil as the deadly hatred of the Nazis.” Denouncing what he called “the politics of race,” he said.” “Only one thing counts to them, la raza above all.”63

In recent years, as the NCLR has gained prominence in the political mainstream, its name has caused strains even within the organization. While some Mexican-Americans say they have adopted the term “la raza” without embracing its militant connotations, others have been uncomfortable with an organization whose very name emphasizes racial identity.

Janet Murguia acknowledged the difficulty in 2008 to columnist Ruben Navarrette, Jr., who criticized the name as “a musty throwback to the 1960s.”64

“We take a lot of heat for our name,” Murguia said, acknowledging that there had been discussions about changing it. “But historically I think it’s something that our community feels wedded to.”

Now who was this Jose Vasconcelos?
If you think nationalist Mexican chauvinism sounds fascist, you’re right. Infact, it is rooted in classic fascism. It springs from the mind of Jose Vasconcelos, a genuine Mexican Nazi propagandist who was on the payroll of Nazi Germany. During World War II, Vasconcelos was the editor of
"Timon", a German magazine promoting the Nazi agenda. Vasconcelos, a philosopher who loathed people of “anglosajon,” African and Jewish descent (among others), dreamed of forging a master “fifth race" of Spaniards (with maybe a hint of Amerindian, which Vasconcelosgrudgingly allows for tactical reasons) to defeat the hated “English” inNorth America, thereby claiming its rightful place at the top of humanity. Not surprisingly, Vasconcelos fit his own definition of perfection perfectly. Vasconcelos, 1882-1959, who once ran for the Mexican presidency, was
an influential education reformer and the author of La Raza Cosmica (TheCosmic Race; 1925) published in the very same year and under fascist influences as Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler.
In it, Vasconcelos foresaw his fifth race arising from superior Mexican racial elements—after having
mitigated African and dysgenicMexican traits. While apologistshave attempted to spin the book into a paean of tolerance throughracial diversity, in fact, it’s the opposite. Vasconcelos was a fascist, but he had to find a way to play the hand he’d been dealt—which was a very mestizo people. Vasconcelos turns tolerance and racial diversity on its head, by defining which racial elementshould dominate a master race of “cosmic” Mexicans. He choseSpaniards. Vasconcelos’ “La Raza,”theory is the Mexican equivalent of the Nazi “Aryan” theory. Vasconceloselevates other Latin Americans if they are predominately Spaniard—in thesame way that Nazis included various non-Germans as “Aryan” if predominately Germanic. Despite its inherent racism, his tract has escaped real criticism in the United States because of an environment of identity politics which permits “protected groups” like “Hispanics” to shield La Raza Cosmica from public scrutiny, even though it is seminal to
the racist nature of Mexican-American organizations like La MEChA, agroup which uses the slogan “For the Race, everything, outside the Race, nothing,” rabidly anti-Semitic websites like
Voz de Atzlan (Atzlan is the name for a race-based “Bronze Nation” comprising Mexico and much or all the rest of the Americas), and of course, La Raza, the largest Hispanic ethnic lobby in the United States.

Now think what you want about how deeply connected all these separate organizations are to one another, but consider two points here that are critical to get he full importance of the la Raza movement. 1. Is that they focus their efforts solely on their own ethnicity and refuse to help needy people of other ethnicities even in their own community. and 2, they have NEVER RENOUNCED the El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan, published in 1968.

Some of the highlights of that document never renounced by an la Raza organization unless they lose their right to use that label.

In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal "gringo" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlán from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny.

We are free and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our hearts. Aztlán belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent. Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner "gabacho" who exploits our riches and destroys our culture. With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlán.

This is not about a struggle for civil rights. The La Raza movement is at its roots fascistic, racist, and it is a stealth movement to reconquer all of North America for the Bronze peoples, i.e. THE RACE and there is no room for whites or blacks on that Bronze Continent.

Sorry guy. Blacks and Browns have been working together for decades.

Brown Berets - Oakland - LocalWiki

"The Brown Berets in Oakland were also in solidarity with the Black Panthers. Both organizations worked together. They held Black and Chicano unity student conferences and the Brown Berets would attend the Free Huey Newton rallies and protest when Huey Newton was facing murder charges for a shoot-out with an Oakland Police officer."

Yeah, they get along so well in prison...

i'm sorry you were in prison. Most criminals get along well in prison.

 

[320 Years of History]

La Raza movement is at its roots fascistic, racist, and it is a stealth movement to reconquer all of North America for the Bronze peoples, i.e. THE RACE and there is no room for whites or blacks on that Bronze Continent.

I haven't yet read the whole OP or the linked content. I have only lept to the conclusion you've drawn based upon it, and that's what I've quoted above. I will read the post and linked content looking for support for the red italicized assertions made in the emboldened text. I don't care if the movement is fascist or racist because:

1. the content should make whether it is or not clear, and
2. upon the content you've provided showing the "movement" is fascist/racist, it'll acquire with me the same status as would any other fascist/racist movement. That is to say, any such movement that aims to achieve something that is problematic is one I'll oppose; such movements that aim to achieve an absurd outcome and/or innocuous outcome is one I won't give a damn about.

In other words, it's important to first understand what the movement seeks to achieve before giving a damn about the tactics -- fascist and/or racist rhetoric -- it will use to achieve its aims.

 

[Asclepias]

‘Radical Brownies,’ ages 8 to 11, don brown berets and tout social justice

"Young members of a new girls troop in Oakland called the “Radical Brownies” don brown berets and participate in “Black Lives Matter” protests in order to help spread a message of racial justice."

Child abuse. ......

Or worse; self segregating them from the rest of main stream American society.

They dont appear to be segregated to me. I see Black and Mexican girls in that picture.

 

[Elvis Obama]

A racist screed, completely inappropriate for the Clean Debate Zone. The darkies never had it so good before they started getting uppity. Debate!!

There is no racist screed here except for the quotes from La Raza people.

You just dont like the discussion and want it shut down.

This is not discussion and, I repeat, there is NO call for debate in your OP.

This is not about a struggle for civil rights. The La Raza movement is at its roots fascistic, racist, and it is a stealth movement to reconquer all of North America for the Bronze peoples, i.e. THE RACE and there is no room for whites or blacks on that Bronze Continent.

This bizarre conspiracy theory is a call to debate? Debate what, exactly? How much you hate dark complected people?

This whole forum is one giant flame zone and you have to come to the one subforum set aside for thoughtful debate and dump your worthless hatred here? Why? This whole damn board is a wasteland and you have to try to destroy the CDZ as well?

 

[Care4all]

so Jim are you trying to associate the la raza lawyer's association with this group u posted about above, so to come to the defense of Donny Dangerous?

 

[Gracie]

Cezar Chavez was a brilliant man who wanted what was best for his people. He was also a very kind man and humble as well as strong. Decent, determined, peaceful whenever possible. His daughter Eloise was one of my very few friends in school. I lost touch with her long ago but still think of her even today.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The Euros invaded México in 1520. Look around any city or town on México and you can see that the Americanos won. Now the victorious raza is invading el Norte to take back the territory seized illegally in 1848.

IT was agreed to by treaty so there was nothing illegal about it.

It took four centuries to recapture México south of the Río Grande. The northern territories won't take even half as long. La venganza won't be pretty, Smart gringos will emigrage to Israel while there is still time.

Lol, come and take it, dude.

We don't have to come and take it, pendejo, we are already here and controling key urban centers. If we didn't slaughter your beef for you, you wouldn't be able to have your stinking Big Mac for breakfast. The first grade of your public schools is already majority non-white. In a generation we will outvote you and then your drug addicted, ADHD kids will see the revenge of the black, brown and red Americans. Your dinky pistola tucked into your Depends won't help you then because we will control the army and police. Your grandchidren will be picking stoop crops for their Chinese bosses while we amuse ourselves with the few pretty ones left, Puta tu madre

Good luck with that...you've defeated the Pajama boys of America.
Your next test wont be so easy. XXXX -- moderador de edición

 

[JimBowie1958]

A racist screed, completely inappropriate for the Clean Debate Zone. The darkies never had it so good before they started getting uppity. Debate!!

There is no racist screed here except for the quotes from La Raza people.

You just dont like the discussion and want it shut down.

This is not discussion and, I repeat, there is NO call for debate in your OP.

This is not about a struggle for civil rights. The La Raza movement is at its roots fascistic, racist, and it is a stealth movement to reconquer all of North America for the Bronze peoples, i.e. THE RACE and there is no room for whites or blacks on that Bronze Continent.

This bizarre conspiracy theory is a call to debate? Debate what, exactly? How much you hate dark complected people?

This whole forum is one giant flame zone and you have to come to the one subforum set aside for thoughtful debate and dump your worthless hatred here? Why? This whole damn board is a wasteland and you have to try to destroy the CDZ as well?

Standard liberal attempt to close discussion by spraying everyone with the label of racism.

Sad.

 

[JimBowie1958]

so Jim are you trying to associate the la raza lawyer's association with this group u posted about above, so to come to the defense of Donny Dangerous?

I am simply trying to share information about the la Raza movement; its influences, its racist character and ties to the militant Chicano Nationalist movement of the past.

As to Trumps issues with the judge, that is a different thread, but draw your own conclusions.