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The solution is long, hard sentences, for those convicted of serious violent crimes, to keep them out of the free population.
That is a reactive not proactive measure. It does nothing to prevent one's being shot or to mitigate the severity of one's wounds after having been shot.
All laws are reactive. The cops are reactive. The only one who can be proactive in their own defense is you. The only thing that is going to make your weapons safer is you.
Red:
If you truly believe that, you have some reading to do.
- Introduction to a Government-based Perspective on Proactive Law
- http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1550&context=faculty_scholarship
- http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:175:0026:0033:EN:PDF
- Theses@asb: Overcoming the Challenges of Future Contracting through the Use of Proactive Law
The solution is long, hard sentences, for those convicted of serious violent crimes, to keep them out of the free population.
That is a reactive not proactive measure. It does nothing to prevent one's being shot or to mitigate the severity of one's wounds after having been shot.
All laws are reactive. The cops are reactive. The only one who can be proactive in their own defense is you. The only thing that is going to make your weapons safer is you.
Red:
If you truly believe that, you have some reading to do.
- Introduction to a Government-based Perspective on Proactive Law
- http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1550&context=faculty_scholarship
- http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:175:0026:0033:EN:PDF
- Theses@asb: Overcoming the Challenges of Future Contracting through the Use of Proactive Law
Laws do not prevent criminals from committing crimes. They never have they never will.
Law enforcement most often arrives during or after the commission of a crime. Reactive
The judicial system is put in gear after a crime is committed. Reactive
The solution is long, hard sentences, for those convicted of serious violent crimes, to keep them out of the free population.
That is a reactive not proactive measure. It does nothing to prevent one's being shot or to mitigate the severity of one's wounds after having been shot.
All laws are reactive. The cops are reactive. The only one who can be proactive in their own defense is you. The only thing that is going to make your weapons safer is you.
Red:
If you truly believe that, you have some reading to do.
- Introduction to a Government-based Perspective on Proactive Law
- http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1550&context=faculty_scholarship
- http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:175:0026:0033:EN:PDF
- Theses@asb: Overcoming the Challenges of Future Contracting through the Use of Proactive Law
Laws do not prevent criminals from committing crimes. They never have they never will.
Law enforcement most often arrives during or after the commission of a crime. Reactive
The judicial system is put in gear after a crime is committed. Reactive
Red:
If you truly believe that, you have some reading to do.
- Introduction to a Government-based Perspective on Proactive Law
- http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1550&context=faculty_scholarship
- http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:175:0026:0033:EN:PDF
- Theses@asb: Overcoming the Challenges of Future Contracting through the Use of Proactive Law
That is a reactive not proactive measure. It does nothing to prevent one's being shot or to mitigate the severity of one's wounds after having been shot.
All laws are reactive. The cops are reactive. The only one who can be proactive in their own defense is you. The only thing that is going to make your weapons safer is you.
Red:
If you truly believe that, you have some reading to do.
- Introduction to a Government-based Perspective on Proactive Law
- http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1550&context=faculty_scholarship
- http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:175:0026:0033:EN:PDF
- Theses@asb: Overcoming the Challenges of Future Contracting through the Use of Proactive Law
Laws do not prevent criminals from committing crimes. They never have they never will.
Law enforcement most often arrives during or after the commission of a crime. Reactive
The judicial system is put in gear after a crime is committed. Reactive
Red:
If you truly believe that, you have some reading to do.
- Introduction to a Government-based Perspective on Proactive Law
- http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1550&context=faculty_scholarship
- http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:175:0026:0033:EN:PDF
- Theses@asb: Overcoming the Challenges of Future Contracting through the Use of Proactive Law
I don't need your reading suggestions I read plenty on my own.
Show me examples of when a law has stopped a criminal from committing a crime in the real world
All laws are reactive. The cops are reactive. The only one who can be proactive in their own defense is you. The only thing that is going to make your weapons safer is you.
Red:
If you truly believe that, you have some reading to do.
- Introduction to a Government-based Perspective on Proactive Law
- http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1550&context=faculty_scholarship
- http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:175:0026:0033:EN:PDF
- Theses@asb: Overcoming the Challenges of Future Contracting through the Use of Proactive Law
Laws do not prevent criminals from committing crimes. They never have they never will.
Law enforcement most often arrives during or after the commission of a crime. Reactive
The judicial system is put in gear after a crime is committed. Reactive
Red:
If you truly believe that, you have some reading to do.
- Introduction to a Government-based Perspective on Proactive Law
- http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1550&context=faculty_scholarship
- http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:175:0026:0033:EN:PDF
- Theses@asb: Overcoming the Challenges of Future Contracting through the Use of Proactive Law
I don't need your reading suggestions I read plenty on my own.
Show me examples of when a law has stopped a criminal from committing a crime in the real world
If you were to read the content I linked, you'd have your examples.
Red:
If you truly believe that, you have some reading to do.
- Introduction to a Government-based Perspective on Proactive Law
- http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1550&context=faculty_scholarship
- http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:175:0026:0033:EN:PDF
- Theses@asb: Overcoming the Challenges of Future Contracting through the Use of Proactive Law
Laws do not prevent criminals from committing crimes. They never have they never will.
Law enforcement most often arrives during or after the commission of a crime. Reactive
The judicial system is put in gear after a crime is committed. Reactive
Red:
If you truly believe that, you have some reading to do.
- Introduction to a Government-based Perspective on Proactive Law
- http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1550&context=faculty_scholarship
- http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:175:0026:0033:EN:PDF
- Theses@asb: Overcoming the Challenges of Future Contracting through the Use of Proactive Law
I don't need your reading suggestions I read plenty on my own.
Show me examples of when a law has stopped a criminal from committing a crime in the real world
If you were to read the content I linked, you'd have your examples.
Give an example with a footnote and maybe then I'll read the link
Laws do not prevent criminals from committing crimes. They never have they never will.
Law enforcement most often arrives during or after the commission of a crime. Reactive
The judicial system is put in gear after a crime is committed. Reactive
Red:
If you truly believe that, you have some reading to do.
- Introduction to a Government-based Perspective on Proactive Law
- http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1550&context=faculty_scholarship
- http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:175:0026:0033:EN:PDF
- Theses@asb: Overcoming the Challenges of Future Contracting through the Use of Proactive Law
I don't need your reading suggestions I read plenty on my own.
Show me examples of when a law has stopped a criminal from committing a crime in the real world
If you were to read the content I linked, you'd have your examples.
Give an example with a footnote and maybe then I'll read the link
Truly, I'm not desirous enough of a conversation on this topic with you to do that. So, no.
I was just about to read the OP again to make sure, because I didn't recall the OP saying anything about taking people's guns. As a matter of fact, I've heard you say you don't believe in that. Thanks for clarifying the obvious.I guess it should come as no surprise that not one gun advocate here has bothered to directly and positively respond the the central question asked in the OP.
Without exception, every gun advocate who's shared their thoughts with me -- both in this forum and in the "real world" -- has refrained from providing so much as the first suggestion that they can credibly, objectively, coherently and cogently present solution options in response to that question. Not one.
I was just about to read the OP again to make sure, because I didn't recall the OP saying anything about taking people's guns. As a matter of fact, I've heard you say you don't believe in that. Thanks for clarifying the obvious.I guess it should come as no surprise that not one gun advocate here has bothered to directly and positively respond the the central question asked in the OP.
Without exception, every gun advocate who's shared their thoughts with me -- both in this forum and in the "real world" -- has refrained from providing so much as the first suggestion that they can credibly, objectively, coherently and cogently present solution options in response to that question. Not one.
The question was, what can we do to prevent the illegal selling of guns from neighbor to neighbor/friend to friend? And the "2A" crowd descends screaming and flailing like a cat with its head caught in a sack, spouting the same talking points over and over. THAT is why nothing is getting done about sensible gun control in the US. Too many people with guns and big mouths are refusing to discuss the topic sensibly.
I was just about to read the OP again to make sure, because I didn't recall the OP saying anything about taking people's guns. As a matter of fact, I've heard you say you don't believe in that. Thanks for clarifying the obvious.I guess it should come as no surprise that not one gun advocate here has bothered to directly and positively respond the the central question asked in the OP.
Without exception, every gun advocate who's shared their thoughts with me -- both in this forum and in the "real world" -- has refrained from providing so much as the first suggestion that they can credibly, objectively, coherently and cogently present solution options in response to that question. Not one.
The question was, what can we do to prevent the illegal selling of guns from neighbor to neighbor/friend to friend? And the "2A" crowd descends screaming and flailing like a cat with its head caught in a sack, spouting the same talking points over and over. THAT is why nothing is getting done about sensible gun control in the US. Too many people with guns and big mouths are refusing to discuss the topic sensibly.
Not all private sales are illegal.
And if you want to stop it it's easy just do what CT does and have all private sales involve a licensed dealer.
I really don't have a problem with the CT law I don't buy or sell guns to or from private individuals.
But I also hold a CT pistol permit which allows me to buy a gun and exempts me from any waiting periods
I was just about to read the OP again to make sure, because I didn't recall the OP saying anything about taking people's guns. As a matter of fact, I've heard you say you don't believe in that. Thanks for clarifying the obvious.I guess it should come as no surprise that not one gun advocate here has bothered to directly and positively respond the the central question asked in the OP.
Without exception, every gun advocate who's shared their thoughts with me -- both in this forum and in the "real world" -- has refrained from providing so much as the first suggestion that they can credibly, objectively, coherently and cogently present solution options in response to that question. Not one.
The question was, what can we do to prevent the illegal selling of guns from neighbor to neighbor/friend to friend? And the "2A" crowd descends screaming and flailing like a cat with its head caught in a sack, spouting the same talking points over and over. THAT is why nothing is getting done about sensible gun control in the US. Too many people with guns and big mouths are refusing to discuss the topic sensibly.
Not all private sales are illegal.
And if you want to stop it it's easy just do what CT does and have all private sales involve a licensed dealer.
I really don't have a problem with the CT law I don't buy or sell guns to or from private individuals.
But I also hold a CT pistol permit which allows me to buy a gun and exempts me from any waiting periods
All of which is blatantly unconstitutional. Where, in the words, “…the right of the people…shall not be infringed”, do you find any justification for government to interfere to that degree with the people's exercise of the right so affirmed?
Not all private sales are illegal.
And if you want to stop it it's easy just do what CT does and have all private sales involve a licensed dealer.
I really don't have a problem with the CT law I don't buy or sell guns to or from private individuals.
But I also hold a CT pistol permit which allows me to buy a gun and exempts me from any waiting periods
All of which is blatantly unconstitutional. Where, in the words, “…the right of the people…shall not be infringed”, do you find any justification for government to interfere to that degree with the people's exercise of the right so affirmed?
Not all private sales are illegal.
And if you want to stop it it's easy just do what CT does and have all private sales involve a licensed dealer.
I really don't have a problem with the CT law I don't buy or sell guns to or from private individuals.
But I also hold a CT pistol permit which allows me to buy a gun and exempts me from any waiting periods
All of which is blatantly unconstitutional. Where, in the words, “…the right of the people…shall not be infringed”, do you find any justification for government to interfere to that degree with the people's exercise of the right so affirmed?
I don't see that as in infringement. It's not stopping anyone legally allowed to purchase a gun from obtaining one.
I don't have a problem denying convicted felons the right to own guns do you?
That is NOT what 320 proposed, or asked about. Try reading the OP. BTW, threaten to shoot me at your own peril. I wield a mean fry pan.I was just about to read the OP again to make sure, because I didn't recall the OP saying anything about taking people's guns. As a matter of fact, I've heard you say you don't believe in that. Thanks for clarifying the obvious.I guess it should come as no surprise that not one gun advocate here has bothered to directly and positively respond the the central question asked in the OP.
Without exception, every gun advocate who's shared their thoughts with me -- both in this forum and in the "real world" -- has refrained from providing so much as the first suggestion that they can credibly, objectively, coherently and cogently present solution options in response to that question. Not one.
The question was, what can we do to prevent the illegal selling of guns from neighbor to neighbor/friend to friend? And the "2A" crowd descends screaming and flailing like a cat with its head caught in a sack, spouting the same talking points over and over. THAT is why nothing is getting done about sensible gun control in the US. Too many people with guns and big mouths are refusing to discuss the topic sensibly.
By “sensible”, what you mean is that you want us to incrementally give up an essential Constitutional right, and to get nothing in return except an empty promise of safety. Benjamin Franklin gave our answer to this, a long time ago.
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
Here is the only sensible “compromise”. You loathsome, criminal-loving liberal scumbags don't try to take away our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, and in return, we won't shoot you for trying to rob us of this right.
The Chinese are definitely not gunrunners.And does that include the guns that are coming through China via the deep water port that Clinton turned over to them in Long Beach in exchange for campaign contributions in the 90's? I would rather take my chance coming across someone having a bad day than I would living in a country where only "da gubermint" has guns. It didn't work out all that well for the Jews in Germany, as I recall. This corporate "gubermint" we currently are under is a de-facto "successor to contract" entity that that is the IMF that took USA.INC into receivership in 1950. If the people allow themselves to be disarmed, they might as well dig their own grave and lay down in it. Every communist nation has disarmed the public and then eradicated the "undesirables" because they are a potential threat. It heartens me that every time that there is an obvious fake and staged media event like Aurora, Sandy Hook, Charleston, Orlando, etc, etc? People buy more guns and they buy more ammo....to those that are awake? I salute you...to those that are asleep or are "gubermint" trolls lamely attempting to debunk someone like me that is your intellectual better???Here's to you......
Not all private sales are illegal.
And if you want to stop it it's easy just do what CT does and have all private sales involve a licensed dealer.
I really don't have a problem with the CT law I don't buy or sell guns to or from private individuals.
But I also hold a CT pistol permit which allows me to buy a gun and exempts me from any waiting periods
All of which is blatantly unconstitutional. Where, in the words, “…the right of the people…shall not be infringed”, do you find any justification for government to interfere to that degree with the people's exercise of the right so affirmed?
I don't see that as in infringement. It's not stopping anyone legally allowed to purchase a gun from obtaining one.
I don't have a problem denying convicted felons the right to own guns do you?
Bingo, it's the same thing as Voter ID. You don't want people who shouldn't be voting, voting.
Not all private sales are illegal.
And if you want to stop it it's easy just do what CT does and have all private sales involve a licensed dealer.
I really don't have a problem with the CT law I don't buy or sell guns to or from private individuals.
But I also hold a CT pistol permit which allows me to buy a gun and exempts me from any waiting periods
All of which is blatantly unconstitutional. Where, in the words, “…the right of the people…shall not be infringed”, do you find any justification for government to interfere to that degree with the people's exercise of the right so affirmed?
I don't see that as in infringement. It's not stopping anyone legally allowed to purchase a gun from obtaining one.
I don't have a problem denying convicted felons the right to own guns do you?
Bingo, it's the same thing as Voter ID. You don't want people who shouldn't be voting, voting.
An easier system....have FELON printed on the drivers license of all felons....so at a private gun sale they can be asked for photo i.d. to buy the gun.......
just like voter i.d.......and it has the beauty of actually targeting criminals....
