The Gulf dead zone

What is undeniable is that you are blaming a problem that Conservatives created on the Liberals.

President Bush | Ethanol | Promote Use

A call for less gasoline consumption
Bush is also calling for Americans to slash gasoline consumption by up to 20 percent by 2017.
Bush envisions the goal being achieved primarily through a sharp escalation in the amount of ethanol and other alternative fuels that the federal government mandates must be produced. The rest would come from raising fuel economy standards for passenger cars, Joel Kaplan, White House deputy chief of staff, said in advance of Bush's Tuesday night speech to a joint session of Congress.

The president is proposing to set the amount of ethanol and other alternative fuels to be blended into the fuel supply at 35 billion gallons by 2017, up from 7.5 billion gallons in 2012. He also wants to expand the standard to include not just ethanol but a wide range of oil alternatives, such as biodiesel, methanol, butanol and hydrogen, Kaplan said

The land would be used for agriculture regardless of what the end product is. Even if not used for Ethanol we would export it, as basic foodstuffs is one of our current prime exports, and there are plenty of buyers for it.

The hypoxic region is a natural phenomenon, that has been exacerbated by human activity. The first step towards control is to get nitrogen removal processes onto your point sources, such as wastewater plants. After that the next would be attempts to treat runnoff from your higher nitrogen agricultural sources, via some sort of stormwater treatment.

In all honesty a 1-2 degree increase in temperature does not radically impact Dissolved oxygen capacity, or biological activitry. The limiting factor is excess nitrogen in the water, as well as possible excess phosphorous.

We have began to get hypoxic zones off of the coast of Oregon and Washington, without the nitrogen from agriculture.

Hypoxia | PISCO

Something has changed.
 
What is undeniable is that you are blaming a problem that Conservatives created on the Liberals.

President Bush | Ethanol | Promote Use

A call for less gasoline consumption
Bush is also calling for Americans to slash gasoline consumption by up to 20 percent by 2017.
Bush envisions the goal being achieved primarily through a sharp escalation in the amount of ethanol and other alternative fuels that the federal government mandates must be produced. The rest would come from raising fuel economy standards for passenger cars, Joel Kaplan, White House deputy chief of staff, said in advance of Bush's Tuesday night speech to a joint session of Congress.

The president is proposing to set the amount of ethanol and other alternative fuels to be blended into the fuel supply at 35 billion gallons by 2017, up from 7.5 billion gallons in 2012. He also wants to expand the standard to include not just ethanol but a wide range of oil alternatives, such as biodiesel, methanol, butanol and hydrogen, Kaplan said

The land would be used for agriculture regardless of what the end product is. Even if not used for Ethanol we would export it, as basic foodstuffs is one of our current prime exports, and there are plenty of buyers for it.

The hypoxic region is a natural phenomenon, that has been exacerbated by human activity. The first step towards control is to get nitrogen removal processes onto your point sources, such as wastewater plants. After that the next would be attempts to treat runnoff from your higher nitrogen agricultural sources, via some sort of stormwater treatment.

In all honesty a 1-2 degree increase in temperature does not radically impact Dissolved oxygen capacity, or biological activitry. The limiting factor is excess nitrogen in the water, as well as possible excess phosphorous.

We have began to get hypoxic zones off of the coast of Oregon and Washington, without the nitrogen from agriculture.

Hypoxia | PISCO

Something has changed.

Its nitrogen from upwelling, which is an interesting phenomenon. I know what your trying to tie this to, and there is not enough evidence to support it.
 
We need to look to corporations to save us. Oh, and get rid of the EPA.
 
Researchers from Texas A&M University who have just returned from a visit to the Gulf of Mexico to explore the scope and size of this year’s dead zone have measured it to be currently around 8,500 square kilometres; approximately the same size as the states of Delaware and Rhode Island combined.

However researchers believe that 2011′s dead zone may continue to grow and become one of the largest ever, thanks in part to the record amounts of water being deposited into the Gulf from the Mississippi River.

Lead by Steve DiMarco, an oceanography professor at Texas A&M, the team of researchers traveled more than 2,300 kilometres throughout the Gulf of Mexico over a five day period. This was the first ever mission to focus on the dead zone’s size in June.

The dead zone off the coast of Louisiana has been continually monitored for about 25 years, and previous research has shown that nitrogen levels in the Gulf of Mexico intrinsically related to human activities have risen by 3 times over the past 50 years. Over the past 5 years, the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico has averaged around 15,000 square kilometres, but is predicted to exceed 24,000 square kilometres this year, making it one of the largest ever recorded, according to the Louisiana Universities Marine Consortium.

Source: Planetsave (2011 Gulf Dead Zone Could Be Biggest Ever | Planetsave)

And it's the fault of the environuts, insisting we expand corn production for ethanol.

Got that? Environmentalists are killing the Gulf.

Yeah like we would not be growing stuff with fertilizer without the ethanol.
sheesh,
 
Researchers from Texas A&M University who have just returned from a visit to the Gulf of Mexico to explore the scope and size of this year’s dead zone have measured it to be currently around 8,500 square kilometres; approximately the same size as the states of Delaware and Rhode Island combined.

However researchers believe that 2011′s dead zone may continue to grow and become one of the largest ever, thanks in part to the record amounts of water being deposited into the Gulf from the Mississippi River.

Lead by Steve DiMarco, an oceanography professor at Texas A&M, the team of researchers traveled more than 2,300 kilometres throughout the Gulf of Mexico over a five day period. This was the first ever mission to focus on the dead zone’s size in June.

The dead zone off the coast of Louisiana has been continually monitored for about 25 years, and previous research has shown that nitrogen levels in the Gulf of Mexico intrinsically related to human activities have risen by 3 times over the past 50 years. Over the past 5 years, the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico has averaged around 15,000 square kilometres, but is predicted to exceed 24,000 square kilometres this year, making it one of the largest ever recorded, according to the Louisiana Universities Marine Consortium.

Source: Planetsave (2011 Gulf Dead Zone Could Be Biggest Ever | Planetsave)

And it's the fault of the environuts, insisting we expand corn production for ethanol.

Got that? Environmentalists are killing the Gulf.

Yeah like we would not be growing stuff with fertilizer without the ethanol.
sheesh,

I know.

Talk about grasping at straws...
 
What is undeniable is that you are blaming a problem that Conservatives created on the Liberals.

President Bush | Ethanol | Promote Use

A call for less gasoline consumption
Bush is also calling for Americans to slash gasoline consumption by up to 20 percent by 2017.
Bush envisions the goal being achieved primarily through a sharp escalation in the amount of ethanol and other alternative fuels that the federal government mandates must be produced. The rest would come from raising fuel economy standards for passenger cars, Joel Kaplan, White House deputy chief of staff, said in advance of Bush's Tuesday night speech to a joint session of Congress.

The president is proposing to set the amount of ethanol and other alternative fuels to be blended into the fuel supply at 35 billion gallons by 2017, up from 7.5 billion gallons in 2012. He also wants to expand the standard to include not just ethanol but a wide range of oil alternatives, such as biodiesel, methanol, butanol and hydrogen, Kaplan said
I know you're expecting me to reverse my position and say, "Oh, Bush called for it? Well, that's okay, then!"

But it's not going to happen. Ethanol production results in a net loss of energy. It's bad from an energy standpoint, and it's bad from an environmental standpoint.

Now I happen to agree with you on all of your points. Food crops never should be used for fuel. It is a morality issue.

However, there are many ways to produce either ethonol or a diesel substitute using cellulose or other waste products. That is the direction that we should be going.
:beer: As long as the final product doesn't represent a net loss of energy, and it's not harmful to the environment, go for it.
 
Researchers from Texas A&M University who have just returned from a visit to the Gulf of Mexico to explore the scope and size of this year’s dead zone have measured it to be currently around 8,500 square kilometres; approximately the same size as the states of Delaware and Rhode Island combined.

However researchers believe that 2011′s dead zone may continue to grow and become one of the largest ever, thanks in part to the record amounts of water being deposited into the Gulf from the Mississippi River.

Lead by Steve DiMarco, an oceanography professor at Texas A&M, the team of researchers traveled more than 2,300 kilometres throughout the Gulf of Mexico over a five day period. This was the first ever mission to focus on the dead zone’s size in June.

The dead zone off the coast of Louisiana has been continually monitored for about 25 years, and previous research has shown that nitrogen levels in the Gulf of Mexico intrinsically related to human activities have risen by 3 times over the past 50 years. Over the past 5 years, the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico has averaged around 15,000 square kilometres, but is predicted to exceed 24,000 square kilometres this year, making it one of the largest ever recorded, according to the Louisiana Universities Marine Consortium.

Source: Planetsave (2011 Gulf Dead Zone Could Be Biggest Ever | Planetsave)

And it's the fault of the environuts, insisting we expand corn production for ethanol.

Got that? Environmentalists are killing the Gulf.

Yeah like we would not be growing stuff with fertilizer without the ethanol.
sheesh,
Would we? If we weren't paying farmers to grow corn for ethanol, would that land be planted, or would it lay fallow?
 
Gulf of Mexico's "dead zone" is the biggest ever measured this year...
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Researchers: 2017 Dead Zone in Gulf of Mexico Biggest Ever
August 02, 2017 - The Gulf of Mexico's "dead zone" — the area where there's too little oxygen to support marine life — is the biggest ever measured this year.
The low-oxygen dead zone along the Louisiana and Texas Gulf Coast measured 22,720 square kilometers (8,776 square miles), about the size of the U.S. state of New Jersey.

Scientist Nancy Rabalais found a solid band of water along the Gulf bottom with oxygen levels of less than 2 parts per million stretching from just west of the mouth of the Mississippi River in Louisiana well into the Texas coast area near Houston. Rabalais said the area was likely even larger, but the mapping cruise had to stop before reaching the western edge.

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Fish swim around a glob of green algae in Texas​

She and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration released the latest measurement Wednesday. "The number of dead zones throughout the world has been increasing in the last several decades and currently totals 500," the news release said. "The dead zone off the Louisiana coast is the second-largest human-caused coastal hypoxic area in the global ocean and stretches from the mouth of the Mississippi River into Texas waters and less often, but increasingly more frequent, east of the Mississippi River."

Nitrogen and phosphorus pollution enters the Mississippi throughout its watershed, which includes runoff from Midwest crop farms and meat producers that stimulate massive algal growth that eventually decomposes, which uses up the oxygen needed to support life in the Gulf.

Researchers: 2017 Dead Zone in Gulf of Mexico Biggest Ever
 

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