EPA Mandates Mindlessly...

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    We are rapidly approaching the deadline for covering over 700 municipal water reservoirs nationwide.. YuP.. THe EPA has mandated that areas the size of lakes need to have a securely enclosed covering structure to prevent biological contamination from natural sources.

    All that i would suppose without Enviromental Impact Reports on local species dwelling in and around the reservoirs or effects on migrating birds and water fowl. Not to mention ESTHETICS.. They are EPA -- they don't need no stinkin' EIR filed...

    Review & Outlook: The EPA Doesn't Love New York - WSJ.com

    Don't bother them with water supply safety PRIORITIES -- or even FACTS and SCIENCE.. THEY ARE THE EPA.... And you will comply NOW!!
     
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    So is this defensible in any way?

    Are they fixing a crisis of epic proportion?

    Or is it just heaping on a load of obligations to "clean water" without prioritizing or budgeting?
     
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    There could be a problem in some areas, especially if the reservoir is small or really shallow.

    In NYC there is a plan to cover Hillview reservoir, at a cost of 1.6 BILLION dollars. In this case, in my opinion, the money can be better spend elsewhere. As a disclaimer i work for a company that could benefit from this, either in design or construction. Even so I think they could get more bang for thier buck upgrading wastewater plants in the watershed, or improving chlorination for the water as it leaves the reservoir.

    The reservoir is chlorinated, and the water is re-chlorinated before entering the mains, which is sufficent in my opinion.

    Remember, if you live in NYC your water comes from upstate lakes, so in any even you are already drinking very dilute, bird poop, as well as fish piss and poop.
     
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    You mean that EPA that Nixon formed?
     
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    Ah the logical fallacy of argumentum ad extremum, or "Since someone opposes this particular rule by the EPA, they must therefore oppose the EPA altogether."

    Poor form
     
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    Ahh the title was in poor form.

    "EPA Mandates Mindlessly"

    I responded to the title.
    I figured with a title like that there was no need to read the OP.
     
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    Your defense of Nixon as your life hero needs more adjectives.
     
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    I'm really hurt that you're dinging me on the title. I TRIED to be more objective, but could find no facts or reason or science to justify this regulation.. Perhaps you want to defend it? And how brilliant it is..

    And no --- EPA would be about 20th on my list of agencies and bureaus we could do without. But -- I'd like to see them learn how to prioritize all of their pet projects and realize how they cause conflicts for resources at the state/local level.. But that would require more than "mindless dictation" from above.
     
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    You know what W.C. fields once said..

    ""WATER?? Never touch the stuff. Fishes f&ck in it.. ""

    Can't imagine what a 90 acre cover would LOOK LIKE. Or the amount of maintenance required on something like that. Talk about bird poop.. And soot and all kinds of nasty contaminants that are gonna collect and run off on it after heavy rains.. Got to turn a pristine water feature into an eyesore..
     

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