The Great Worker Shortage Lie is Alive and Well

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    "Corporate offshore outsourcing lobbyists are on a roll, going on talk shows and writing propaganda plants as articles. White papers are falling like snow where even labor economics equations are manipulated. Every day we hear pure statistical fiction and politicians tout corporate lobbyist provided talking points, even in GOP debates. Why? Corporations are demanding more immigration and foreign guest worker Visas to displace Americans, repress wages, technology transfer and offshore outsource further.

    There is No Labor Shortage in the United States. None, and that includes high skilled labor."


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    If a population has an unemployment rate that is record-able on a census, there is no shortage.
     
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    Starting next year 10,000 baby boomers a day will turn 65.

    At some point in the future we will have a labor shortage.
     
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    Not that I see. As people who are capable of work will emigrate to the US or come to an age where they can join the work force.
     
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    Automation is eliminating many jobs along with manufacturing going out of the country.
     
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    There probably are shortages within some job-specific professions.

    But the overall employment trend seems to indicate that, if anything, unemployment is going to continue to be a problem.

    Between FREE TRADE, increased efficiencies and the downturn in demand worldwide, this is to be expected.

    Of course the real solution is to share the work and share the wealth, but the economic system we have doesn't really support such a move.

    THAT will take a significant change in thinking about social contract before that happens (if ever!).
     
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    Capitalism isn't perfect but it's much better than Socialism.
     
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    There will never be a labor shortage. It is impossible. What would a labor shortage even look like in real terms of problems it would generate. As far as I can tell, the more jobs available with fewer workers to fill the slots the better the pay and overall economy is going to be....
     
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    Does that Knee-jerking bother you much there, Get?

    Did my post lead you to believe that I'm advocating socialism, lad?

    If it does, read it again this time without adding your own insane narrative to it.

    I am describing the changes that are stressing our system.

    That is not advocating socialism, that is decribing what we are facing,

    Capitalism has already faced, and dealt with a similar changing circumstance back when the industrial revolution happened.

    The solution to that problem was found by a wide variety of changes to the social contract. It coincidently also truned this nation into the wealthiest nation with the wealthiest people on the face of the earth.

    We're about ready for such kinds of changes in that social contract once again.

    We're not ready for it politically, of course, we never are.

    Those on top of the heap view all change as threatening to them, personally.

    Of course what many of them miss (just as you are so obviously missing the point) is the obvious fact that failing to change the way a society works, to accomodate those rapid changes in circumstance, leads to changes that are much MUCH more threatening to the winners of the current system than making the needed changes incrementally.
     
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    Simply put it's the theory of supply and demand. Yes, IMO there will be a bit of a labor shoratge but probably not as bad as some make out. But you're 100% correct that companies will increase their pay and benefits in order to attract workers that will become more scarce. But that could also lead to an inflation issue that could develop as a result of that increased pay and benefits.

    A lot of variables have been predicated on the Baby Boomers. That is the biggest reason for the predicted shortages in SS. As the baby boomers die off the ratio of workers to retirees will again be more favorable toward being more self sustaining.
     

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