The father of corporate personhood?

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    An 1886 Supreme Court decision ruled corporations are persons - FALSE - De-fact-o.com - Untangling The Web One Fact At A Time


    Michael Kinder recently uncovered a letter from Supreme Court Chief Justice Morrison Remick Waite to court reporter J.C. Bancroft Davis informing Davis that it didn't really matter whether or not he included a comment about the arguments before the court that corporations were persons "as we avoided meeting the constitutional questions in the decision."


    It looks like a Court Reporter at the time added the language after the fact.
     
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    When Is a Corporation Like a Freed Slave? | Mother Jones

    It aint over folks.

    This MJ article is about local areas passing ordnaces that say corporations do not have personhood within their jurisdiction.

    NO ONE SUED.

    This means the corps themselves KNOW the will lose in the high court if they try to press it.
     
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    Really interesting stuff here


    Supreme Court Justice Morrison Remick Waite simply pronounced before the beginning of arguement in the case of Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company that

    The court does not wish to hear argument on the question whether the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which forbids a State to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws, applies to these corporations. We are all of opinion that it does.

    The court reporter duly entered into the summary record of the Court's findings that
    The defendant Corporations are persons within the intent of the clause in section 1 of the Fourteen Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which forbids a State to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


    Thus it was that a two-sentence assertion by a single judge elevated corporations to the status of persons under the law, prepared the way for the rise of global corporate rule, and thereby changed the course of history.
    The doctrine of corporate personhood creates an interesting legal contradiction. The corporation is owned by its shareholders and is therefore their property. If it is also a legal person, then it is a person owned by others and thus exists in a condition of slavery -- a status explicitly forbidden by the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution. So is a corporation a person illegally held in servitude by its shareholders? Or is it a person who enjoys the rights of personhood that take precedence over the presumed ownership rights of its shareholders? So far as I have been able to determine, this contradiction has not been directly addressed by the courts.
     
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    You do realize that this is completely irrelevant to the decision the other day, don't you?
     
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    A decision which will one day be overturned.
     
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    Well, it's always possible that the Courts will overturn it and ignore the fact that the Constitution clearly provides that Congress can make no law abridging the freedom of speech. However, I find it unlikely to happen anytime soon.
     
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    If Corporations are persons then we can convict them of murder and put them to death and then put on trial the CEOs as accessories to murder.
     
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    I've been screaming about this for years, others have for decades. Sad fact is, legal precedent has been written on that little fraud for over a century, and I don't see a century worth of precedent being overturned ever. Corporations Are People, Too
     
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    Then they should be tried for murder in the oil rig disastor.

    Then we can convict them to death.

    We kill the Corp and take its assests to pay for the crime and then try the CEOs for being acessories in the crime of murder.

    11 people died because this corp put them in danger knowingly.
     
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    Kill Corps?

    Who's the one spewing Death Threats now?

    Shit, then why didn't we hear shit when the Bailout was put into law? Why didn't we kill them too for doing a bad job eh?

    Death is the Solution i'm guessing?
     

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