The Evil of Gay Transcends Individual Religion

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    You wouldn't be judging them (Christians, Muslims, Jews) and expecting them to live by your morals, would you?
     
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    ...gay sex with children is okay as long as you don't marry them?
     
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    It's not about the 'gay' part, it's about the 'marriage' part. I do wish people would understand that. It is not Christian to 'hate' gays.... but we cannot support gay marriage. Why? Because it's against the teachings of Christ.





    It's the 'marriage' part that is the problem, not that they are gay.
     
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    Yes, in fact I am most definitely judging them (no need to question it timidly, Newby).

    If a top Catholic official calls for the various religions of the world to unite under the pretext of making the lives worse for people they do not know or care about (gays), yes I think it's fair to pass judgment.

    Don't you think it's funny that issues like poverty, world hunger, and war aren't important enough for a religion-transcending "call to unite"?

    And also, you accusing me of "expecting" people to live by my morals. But I say, if you're against that sort of thing, isn't that exactly what this Italian official is doing?
     
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    Good point, noted.

    But what gives them the right to enforce their own personal religious views upon the entire populous? Why can't they just practice their own faiths, within their own private churches and leave it at that?
     
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    the church helps the poor and hungry. out stripping most other sources.

    Since the jews and the muslims seem to love killing each other, I'd say he's picking his battles wisely.

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    It's up to individual states to determine who can and can't marry who.
     
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    No one is trying to undermine our work on poverty, world hunger or war... just marriage.... hence the Pope's call.

    I see that you prefer hysteria to reason though... I find that fascinating.
     
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    He's free to say what he wants, when and where he wants to say it.

    Just b/c you don't like it....
     
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    Because God commands us that we don't hide our faith. We proclaim it. You don't like my views - fine... I'm entitled to them just as you are to yours. You assume that I 'hate' gays because I disagree with gay marriage. Nothing could be further from the truth. You think it's about being gay, it isn't. It's about our belief - based on the Bible - that marriage is between one man and one woman. Without faith, there is no 'marriage' anyway... there is a contract between two individuals... no big deal... meaningless crap. It is the faith that gives it a meaning. It's a contract made before God. See how that works?
     

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