CDZ The Energy Market, What's Going on?

[william the wie]

Some of the strange things in the market include:

Saudi and other big producers shifting production numbers into the future to create the appearance of supply and demand coming into sync so prices can rise.

Unexplained massive drops in reported production here in the US for week over week production.

US natural gas is selling for less than 1/3 of quoted prices in many world markets yet it is not being shipped out, which is legal.

That all sounds like Xylose or fusion from the skunk works or some other source is taking off. But wouldn't that leak and become common knowledge quickly?

Any ideas of what is happening?

 

[Cosmos]

You can expect US production to decline as a result of the lower rig count. This is because these shale wells decline dramatically in their first year on production.

 

[william the wie]

I agree but that does not explain either the price differential between natural gas prices in the US and the rest of the world or the pump it now actions in the ME.

 

[pwjohn]

Some of the strange things in the market include:

Saudi and other big producers shifting production numbers into the future to create the appearance of supply and demand coming into sync so prices can rise.

Unexplained massive drops in reported production here in the US for week over week production.

US natural gas is selling for less than 1/3 of quoted prices in many world markets yet it is not being shipped out, which is legal.

That all sounds like Xylose or fusion from the skunk works or some other source is taking off. But wouldn't that leak and become common knowledge quickly?

Any ideas of what is happening?

Not that I'm buying into your claims, but let's face it, cooking the books is a time honored tradition. And for a whole host of reasons.

As for exporting nat gas, up until just recently it was against the law. So the last I heard they're still building whatever facilities are necessary to export nat gas. Just sayibg

 

[william the wie]

I'm just trying to figure out why they would cook the books this much and this way.

 

[pwjohn]

If they are cooking the books, the reason why is always the same. Propping up the bottom line.

Big oil rarely if ever has need for that kind of behavior because they spend so much time wallowing in darn near guaranteed massive profits.

But if they want to play shell games with their inventory as you suggest, that means they must, I repeat must run multiple inventory accounts for the same barrel of oil which can make the process very complicated because that information has to jive everytime an accounting is called for. And that happens a lot in the process.

They don't call it black gold for nothing.

Now it's possible the Saudis may have expanded their capacity to store oil prior to export which makes good business sense by the way, and if so that may lead to some believe a shell game is in the works. Who knows.

 

[Josf]

"If they are cooking the books, the reason why is always the same. Propping up the bottom line."

If the accurate account information was easy to find then inside information would not exist. If the so called "black gold" profit margin is high on benefit and low on cost, then where is the accurate account information on inside information? Someone knows precisely why they choose to cook the books (fraud) as the make that choice. That information is intended to benefit (high profit) the insider (the criminal fraud), at the expense of those who do not have that inside information (targeted victims), and the legal term here is fraud: plain and simple. This is all part of what can be known as civilized cannibalism, or a "zero sum game," brought about to a large degree by the enforcement of a legal fraud known as central banking, or the enforcement of a single money supply that depends upon deception as the power empowering the high profit margins; as costs are transferred to the intended targeted individuals who constitute that criminal market.

The reason why is always the same when dealing with criminals (with badges or without badges) whose willful intention is to injure their hapless victims. Where there is no moral rule of law, there will be rule by criminals. The same old story, different times, different places, but the same old story.

So who has the inside information and how much do they charge investors to get the accurate account information, and how much MORE valuable is the knowledge that the seller of accurate information of that kind, whereby the seller turns out to be just another snake oil salesman, affords (the knowledge affords) the one who knows the fraud is a fraud two choices: defraud the fraud in turn (civilized cannibalism), or get a real job?

False capitalism hides behind the true capitalism provided naturally.

 

[william the wie]

Fraud does not apply to state owned enterprises like ARAMACO, GAZPROM and other SOEs. State secrets do not have to be announced nor audited. While the Seven Sistera are more famous virtually all of their of their books click off. The SOEs on the other hand can do anything they want so long as they do not reach the threasholds for audited books and/or operate in jurisdictions where audited numbers don't really exist. That's why you will see lists that differ as to which SOEs are bigger than the more famous Seven Sisters. Those lists differ as to both names and numbers with a lot of confirmation based on satellite imagery.

 

[Josf]

"Fraud does not apply to state owned enterprises..."

If the idea is to create a fictional being that is neither accountable nor responsible for perpetrating crimes, then that is one competitive idea offered by someone, or offered by some group, to other people. I'm not buying into it.

 

[william the wie]

It is written into law and a major reason that investing in China is a bad idea. Fraud is a major source of GDP in most of the world.

 

[Josf]

"It is written into law and a major reason that investing in China is a bad idea. Fraud is a major source of GDP in most of the world."

An assumption here on my part is to believe that you believe the words you wrote above. Law can be written by people employing language, there are some classic examples. Statutes on the other hand are not laws. If a criminal, or a gang of criminals, order other criminals, or they order their victims to obey criminal statutes (counterfeit laws) then it is up to the individual to obey, or not obey, those criminal versions of laws.

In order to join the criminal gang there are a few things required?

 

[william the wie]

As in China has been run by the triads for thousands of years and the house of Saud is effectively a criminal enterprise? You definitely gave company in that opinion but the question is whether they know something vitally important about the energy industry being headed for collapse?

 

[Josf]

Criminals join the club when they perpetrate crimes, and of course the best way to perpetuate a criminal enterprise is by covering it up under the (false) color of law. If you are speaking about the energy industry as a whole, then that includes human energy that is often (a decisive majority) mislead by criminals posing as the government. If instead you are speaking about the petroleum markets as a dominant slice of the energy industry as a whole, then the word collapse may actually be a cleared up example of deception. Those who create (criminally) enforced monopolies within their power to enforce said monopolies (every undefended market is clearly going to be taken over by criminals) give way to the next, and then the next, and then the next, group gaining the largest slice of the criminal markets, history shows this clearly. Currently there are three major criminal markets and petroleum is not on the list.

1. Deception
2. Effective threats of violence
3. Offensive (criminal) violence

When the criminals take over that is the list of powers (energies) commanded by the criminals as they deal in the markets the way they choose. That is a list of supplies of capital, and the supply of that type of capital is limited by a few factors, such as the ability of those who are targeted for deception, threat, and violence, to defend themselves against deception, threat, and violence, and so far the clear, accurate, account, is such that the victims are relatively powerless in the face of all that capital brought into those markets by those criminals .

When moving from the capital of mind control, whereby the capital listed above is contained within individual minds, victims and criminals alike, moving to physical forms of capital, there then is a competitive list of physical forms of capital that can include that form known as petroleum.

1. Money in free markets, and the obvious counterfeit form of money when the criminals take over.
2. Drugs in free markets, and the obvious criminal employment of drugs when the criminals take over, such as the Opium War example provided by the criminals running the East India Company (with their easy to recognize flag) as those criminals ran drugs, slaves, and weapons so as to capture as many markets as was in their power to accomplish.
3. Slaves, or human capital, those enslaved by physiological means (loving their chains, and licking the boots of their masters) as well as those enslaved by less covert means.
4. Land, which includes control over the points of access to petroleum.
5. Water
6. Air

If there is a so called collapse during the waning age of oil dominance, and fewer, and fewer, and fewer, people are captured into that criminal market, then those experiencing said collapse certainly know precisely what collapse means in their time and in their places. Those who already disconnected from dependence upon petroleum are insulated to a large extent from so called collapse.

As to who knows which petroleum market competitor (in the criminal run markets) will do what, when, where, and why, my guess is that even those attending the company meetings are themselves very aware of the concept of deception, and they too are likely to be hedging their bets concerning the validity, and the accuracy, of the stated intentions of those in charge of those competitors in petroleum markets run by criminals. Joining criminal markets has obvious risks.

 

[william the wie]

Apparently the cost and demand projections on the Tesla battery leaked badly. The storage costs are competitive with the costs of home generators and reduce the need for peak generator expense at an acceptable cost. So, yeah the energy market is going to tank possibly within two years.