The difference between Communism and Socialism

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    I have my concerns with f and as few other details, but this pretty well sums it up



    AIMS AND TASKS OF DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM
     
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    Socialism is the economical system that most communist leaders used.
     
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    Really? Please show how the average worker in the CCCP had a say in anything.

    Do not confuse 'collectivization' [bureaucratic collectivist oligarchy], state capitalism, and an oligarchy with a socialist socio-economic system.
     
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    Demo. Greek. People.Mob.
    Cracy. Greek suffix. Rule. Theocracy, democracy, idiocracy.
    Mob rules.
    51% of the population tells the rest how things are to be done.

    It's the worst form of govt there ever was.It's the same as a dictatorship where the brainwashed back the dictator.
    If everyone in Cuba hated Fidel do you think he'd still be around ?

    Ya see. In Murkastan you brainwashed idiots think you can vote for change.
    You got Barry Obasketball alright but look around him when he speaks. It's the same old crowd.
    The " supreme" court. The " law makers" in congress.The same old corporations and lobbyists that pay to get the clowns to do as they "a$k
    Nothing changed a bit.

    Then you have your Nazi's in various uniforms that will defend these clowns with their lives, if necessary.
    Both sides, of course.
     
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    lol


    go back to school and come back when you've written an 800-word essay comparing direct and representative democratic forms ;)
     
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    one seeks equality...the other is based on a caste system.
    one can't abide private property ... the other can co-exist with capitalism (in hybrid form).

    it's amazing to me how many conservatives throw these words around interchangeably - and the end result is scaring people into being sheep.
     
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    A common denominator in socialism and communism is the principle that the items produced by the people should be owned publicly, controlled and planned by the Government.

    One difference is Socialism advocates that that distribution of items should take into account the individuals efforts, while Communism dictates all items should be divided as to the individuals needs.

    Another difference is who actually controls a Society, Socialism has a greater number in Government, while Communism likes to keep a smaller more controllable leadership.

    Another difference is that with Communism all private ownership must be done away with ASAP to promote the Classless Society. While Socialism does see Capitalism as a viable need as long as it is controlled tightly by the Centralized Government.

    Another difference is who actually controls a Society, Socialism has a greater number in Government, while Communism likes the keep a smaller more controllable leadership.

    Confused yet?

    Maybe we should toss in a some Marxist views and intensify the debauchery that is killing America ever so slowly.


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    Like night and day.

    Communism = dictatorship, mass famine, prison camps, massacre.

    Socialists try to lend working people a hand. Socialists are democrats who respond to the will of the people. Socialists respect human rights. Socialists do not hate religion, nor do they seek to impose atheism. Communists are guilty of both.
     
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    Confused, not at all. There is a simple explanation.
    Socialism is liberal.
    Communism is conservative.

    Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings.

    Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just the Party Secretary) have any say in how the economy works. Republicans are conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just people controlling the Party figurehead) have any say in how the government works. The conservatives in the US are in the same position as the communists in the 30s, and for the same reason: Their revolutions failed spectacularly but they refuse to admit what went wrong.

    A common mistake is to confuse Socialism, the economic system, with Communism, the political system. Communists are "socialist" in the same way that Republicans are "compassionate conservatives". That is, they give lip service to ideals they have no intention of practicing.

    Socialism and Communism
     
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    Equating Conservatism with elitism is of course absurd. Conservatism = attachment to religion or family or tribe. Conservatism is usually very popular. Liberalism can be defined as antipathy to religion or family or tribe. Liberalism is an icy, arid doctrine embraced only by elites.

    If you think Marx had any kind of genuine attachment to democracy you are mistaken.
     

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