The democrats don't seem to be able to respect something that actually works.

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    And in the category of concern and caring for the less fortunate among us, our esteemed Democrats in Congress slipped this jewel into a thousand page spending bill along with hundreds of millions in payoffs to their cronies, contributors, and self-serving interests.

    In so doing, as custodians of the D.C. school system, they are effectively dismantling one of the few government programs that is actually producing positive and lasting results and they are re-segregating the kids. So much for concern for poor and minority students. If there ain’t enough votes in it, it won’t be done.

    2009 testimony to Congress in support of the D.C. voucher system.
    http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/051309Williams.pdf
     
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    So, why should really poor kids get to go to a tony "good" school in a rich county? Their parents aren't wealthy or by your standards, successful (and thus lazy), so these kids obviously didn't earn a spot there. They don't DESERVE it. Besides, aren't you then taking away a space for a privileged white child that has been groomed for college since birth? This should be a perfect example of the "way it should be" according to neocon/conservative/rep/corporatists - oh hell, I don't even know what to call you clowns anymore. Make up your minds!
     
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    I think that this is part of that situation where the teachers union was royally pissed over the Chancellor's efforts to consolidate under attended schools, streamline things and make the system function better.

    Apparently the teachers' union won, and they pulled off a to hell with the students move here.
     
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    Kind of makes sense ,if they are educated and start making there own money, move out of the city and grow up , they are not part of the DNC base any longer.
     
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    I'm all for kids getting the best primary education available. I think probably the biggest opposition to charter schools is simply that they can write their own curriculum and that there are currently so few that those students lucky enough to be chosen represent only a blip in the number who really NEED smaller classrooms, etc. So to allocate federal funds for only one particular jurisdiction seems discriminatory.

    I do think that to do education reform within the public school system that Arne Duncan has been looking into the success stories of charter schools as models to design the same learning improvements for public schools, so it's possible we haven't seen the end of charter schools, or at least implementing what works for them and what doesn't.
     
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    Should be interesting how Duncan breaks the news to the teachers' unions.
     
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    Since DC is not a state and not allowed to receive state monies, those living there pretty much have to be under federal jurisdiction. I don't think federal money should be going to ANY of the states for education or much of anything else, but that is a separate discussion.

    In this case, I don't think 3,300 kids can be called a 'blip'. The theory is that the more students that are able to go to good schools and thereby take funding away from poor schools, the more incentive the poor schools will have to become good schools. Or they go out of business as they should. To defund a program that was actually beginning to work and educate kids makes absolutely no sense especially when they aren't saving that money but simply shifting it to some other pet project. The best case scenario would have been to continue to increase the program until the entire system was actual educating kids.
     
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    Believe it or not, the Obama Administration has essentially blown off the NEA by its non support of tenuring and favoring a merit system instead. Obama was boo'd during his campaign speech before the teacher's union.
     
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    That is so not true. Washington D.C. has an annual budget (including for education) just like all the states do. Charter schools in D.C. receive the same amount per pupil that public schools do. They also receive federal funding based on student count, as do public schools all across the country. When students transfer out of a public school and into a charter school, the public school records that loss and the charter school records that gain (and thus more funding). Public schools in poverty areas do receive more federal money, however.
     
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    Why do you think im not a liberal anymore....besides the fact that I am no longer at UMASS amherst :).
     

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