The Death Doctrine

Discussion in 'Education' started by PoliticalChic, Feb 21, 2009.

  1. PoliticalChic
    Online

    PoliticalChic Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2008
    Messages:
    55,678
    Thanks Received:
    15,586
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    Ratings:
    +24,815
    Perhaps one of the most influential, if abhorrent, documents in history was published for the first time on February 21, 1848. The Communist Manifesto has led to millions of deaths and it's impact is still felt in many countries today.

    The following video portrays the effects of Josef Stalin’s move to collectivize the farms of the Ukraine.

    Although it should be seen by all, it is not for the squeamish.

    [youtube]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/9JAiUcqy3lM&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/9JAiUcqy3lM&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/youtube]
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2009
  2. Sunni Man
    Offline

    Sunni Man Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2008
    Messages:
    40,001
    Thanks Received:
    5,328
    Trophy Points:
    1,860
    Location:
    Patriotic American Muslim
    Ratings:
    +12,444
    PoliticalChic you are a nazi and an anti semite!!!!

    Don't you know that there was only ONE holocaust

    These other examples do not qualify :evil:
     
  3. editec
    Offline

    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    41,427
    Thanks Received:
    5,598
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Maine
    Ratings:
    +5,617
    Stalin was a monster without doubt.

    Nobody ever seems to remember the Stalinist Ukrainian holocaust except of course the Ukrainians and the russians who damned near starved to death when STalin nationalized the Ukrainians farms.
     
  4. Ravi
    Offline

    Ravi Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    81,318
    Thanks Received:
    12,691
    Trophy Points:
    2,205
    Location:
    Hating Hatters
    Ratings:
    +29,752
    It wasn't communism that did this. It was Stalinism. Just like groups of people pervert religious ideals so too do people pervert political philosophies.
     
  5. Agnapostate
    Offline

    Agnapostate BANNED

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2008
    Messages:
    6,860
    Thanks Received:
    344
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    The Quake State
    Ratings:
    +344
    Again, inappropriate conflation of socialism and state capitalism. Legitimate socialism in Ukraine might be found in Nester Makhno and his Black Army, and their establishment of the Free Territory.
     
  6. jillian
    Offline

    jillian Princess Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2006
    Messages:
    69,551
    Thanks Received:
    13,012
    Trophy Points:
    2,220
    Location:
    The Other Side of Paradise
    Ratings:
    +22,427
    There seems to be this bizarre confusion between totalitarianism and communism. The Communist Manifesto was an unrealistic document that idealized humans. It presumed that people in power would wake up one day and say "ok, no one needs to have power anymore"...and then the state would drop away quietly.

    Absurd. People in power don't give up power. But the Communist Manifesto wasn't the "cause" of that... It was going to be a failed system no mattr what because of human nature was and is.

    That's why after the Russian Revolution, so many Russians came here.

    "Great country, America"... as my grandfather used to say with a very heavy accent.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  7. dilloduck
    Offline

    dilloduck Diamond Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2004
    Messages:
    53,240
    Thanks Received:
    5,552
    Trophy Points:
    1,850
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Ratings:
    +6,403
    I'm Obama will encourage appropriate conflation of socialism and state capitalism.:eusa_whistle:
     
  8. elvis
    Offline

    elvis BANNED Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    25,882
    Thanks Received:
    4,303
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +4,303
    why is the Communist Manifesto rated as the most evil book ever, ahead of Mein Kampf?
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  9. editec
    Offline

    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    41,427
    Thanks Received:
    5,598
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Maine
    Ratings:
    +5,617
    Because people claiming to be communists actually ended up getting more people killed than NAZIism did, would be my guess.
     
  10. PoliticalChic
    Online

    PoliticalChic Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2008
    Messages:
    55,678
    Thanks Received:
    15,586
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    Ratings:
    +24,815
    It's OK, Ravi, we don't expect everyone to learn from the past. BTW, didn't you just hate that Mao-Stalinism and that Pol Pot-Stalism?
     

Share This Page