The Constitution of Iraq – Is “this” what our soldiers died for?

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    Full Text of Iraqi Constitution - washingtonpost.com

    The conservative right has insisted time and again that we “won” in Iraq. Everyone can now enjoy “freedom” without the fear of religious persecution.

    A nation’s constitution is a framework for how that nation is governed and provides insight as to what living there would be like.

    When looking at a constitution, it’s almost like “first come, first serve”. If there is a “statement” at the beginning and a little farther down, there appears a statement that seems to contradict the first statement; it is generally assumed that the first statement takes precedence.

    Example, take a look at Article 2, the entire Article:
    Article 2:
    First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:
    A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.
    B. No law that contradicts the principles of democracy may be established.
    C. No law that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms stipulated in this constitution may be established.

    Notice “First”: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:
    Then A: No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.
    Those are clear. The national religion is “Islam” and the “fundamental source of legislation” and “there can be no law that contradicts Islam”. Then, it goes on to say that no law can contradict democracy can be made. But notice, it doesn’t describe democracy and this is worded in such a way that there is this (false) impression that “Islam” is somehow “democratic”. We know from religion in our own country that religion is the opposite of democracy. Rules are laid out following religious text and NOT voted on.

    Then, under C.: No law that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms stipulated in this constitution may be established
    Unless, that law contradicts the “established provisions of Islam”. It all goes back to “Islam”.

    This is why gays and adulterers are now murdered. 50% of married Americans cheat or have cheated. What if the penalty for adultery in this country were “death”?
    A woman now has to be “escorted” if she goes out in public (Islamic law). If a woman has to be “escorted”, can she hold down a job? Visit the doctor’s office? Or even see a “male” doctor? Of course not.

    The Christian population has been annihilated since 2003. Are there protections for them? What does “Islam” say about other religions and that is your answer.

    Is this what our soldiers died for? Is this the definition of “we won”? Hard questions.
     
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    See, without the Constitution they'd still have Islam, now they have a Constitution and Islam.
     
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    Nice!! :eusa_angel: :clap2:
     
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    It's clear that the OP has a fundamental disagreement with Islam as a religion
     
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    The US gave them their freedom to write their own constitution. So apparently it's what they want. But, on the up side, they also wrote in free healthcare for everyone!:razz:
     
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    The OP agrees with Ann Coulter that we should have converted them all to Christianity
     
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    The OP would be complaining that the US war threw all the grave diggers out of business because they wouldnt have a steady source of business without Saddam.
    Talk about carping.
     
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    Our soldiers died to create a fundamentalist Islamic government and the right is OK with that? They slaughtered their Christian population from 1.2 to 1.4 MILLION to probably less than 400,000 and that's OK? That's their right? Pointing out that genocide is evil means I have a problem with ISLAM?

    Who agrees with Anne Coulter?

    You do know that we killed at least 10 times more Iraqi's than Saddam did in his entire life? Right?
    Plus, we leveled the country.

    Do you guys even read what you wrote? You think you are throwing out barbs, but you are making yourselves look like fools.
     
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    You write as if you think the things you say are intelligent.

    If people want "Islam" as a religion, that's fine, but when the US supports shackling a country it claims it's "liberating" by making it a religious theocracy, it's just over he top.

    Don't you know the reason people in Iran are rebelling is because they want to get away from the type of government we just installed in Iraq? Just the fact that you don't know that proves you don't know anything.

    Now, you will want to come back with another barb, but your others were as sharp as oatmeal.
     
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