The Confederacy of Takers

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh man, please let the right wing nuts keep up this "makers vs takers" nonsense and talking seccession. The GOP may be dead and gone by 2014, not even make it to 2016!

Said the man with 2 Obamaphones

 

[thereisnospoon]

Oh man, please let the right wing nuts keep up this "makers vs takers" nonsense and talking seccession. The GOP may be dead and gone by 2014, not even make it to 2016!

You people...Your faithlessness in your fellow human being is fantastic.
DO you really believe by 2016 there will be NO opposition to the liberal ideology or the democrat party?
Look, Obama may have been successful at squeaking out a second term. But for your theory to be true, your side should have gained the majority in the House, it did not. In fact the dems LOST seats. Should have gained a super majority in the US Senate, it did not. In fact the GOP held steady. Should have gained a majority of state governor seats. It did not. In fact the GOP GAINED governor seats....Should have retaken state legislatures. It did not. In fact republicans picked up seats from democrats. In fact many states maintained their majorities in state legislatures. NC has for the first time in 100 years an all GOP legislature and a GOP governor.
It appears your assessment of the demise of the GOP is premature.
So you can go suck shit through a straw.
We will make it our mission to take back the country from the scourge of liberalism
Oh, and If Obama thinks by demanding a $1.6 trillion tax increase, he will get bi-partisan support now, he can fucking forget it. He's ruined any chance he had. Already.
Our side will battle and stop any Obama tax increase he throws down the Hill.
He could have had bipartisan support but he fucked up.
So screw you. You'll have to look elsewhere ( Maybe Sweden..Help ya pack!) for your free shit.

 

[nodoginnafight]

The boy might want to rethink his position, the states Romney carried produce most of the food and energy in this country, if you break it down by county Romney carried close to 80% of the land mass. So he might be the one who should be careful what he wishes for.

Good, they'll need a barter economy when left without a financial system. Oh, and they'll also need a recognized commodity exchange.

and they'll also need plenty of handouts from the Blue states.
Wonder what the blue states will say when they come begging for "foreign" aid?

 

[nodoginnafight]

Oh man, please let the right wing nuts keep up this "makers vs takers" nonsense and talking seccession. The GOP may be dead and gone by 2014, not even make it to 2016!

You people...Your faithlessness in your fellow human being is fantastic.
DO you really believe by 2016 there will be NO opposition to the liberal ideology or the democrat party?
Look, Obama may have been successful at squeaking out a second term. But for your theory to be true, your side should have gained the majority in the House, it did not. In fact the dems LOST seats. Should have gained a super majority in the US Senate, it did not. In fact the GOP held steady. Should have gained a majority of state governor seats. It did not. In fact the GOP GAINED governor seats....Should have retaken state legislatures. It did not. In fact republicans picked up seats from democrats. In fact many states maintained their majorities in state legislatures. NC has for the first time in 100 years an all GOP legislature and a GOP governor.
It appears your assessment of the demise of the GOP is premature.
So you can go suck shit through a straw.
We will make it our mission to take back the country from the scourge of liberalism
Oh, and If Obama thinks by demanding a $1.6 trillion tax increase, he will get bi-partisan support now, he can fucking forget it. He's ruined any chance he had. Already.
Our side will battle and stop any Obama tax increase he throws down the Hill.
He could have had bipartisan support but he fucked up.
So screw you. You'll have to look elsewhere ( Maybe Sweden..Help ya pack!) for your free shit.

The democrats GAINED seats in the house and senate.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The boy might want to rethink his position, the states Romney carried produce most of the food and energy in this country, if you break it down by county Romney carried close to 80% of the land mass. So he might be the one who should be careful what he wishes for.

Good, they'll need a barter economy when left without a financial system. Oh, and they'll also need a recognized commodity exchange.

You really are totally illiterate and uneducated aren't you?

 

[jillian]

Oh man, please let the right wing nuts keep up this "makers vs takers" nonsense and talking seccession. The GOP may be dead and gone by 2014, not even make it to 2016!

You people...Your faithlessness in your fellow human being is fantastic.
DO you really believe by 2016 there will be NO opposition to the liberal ideology or the democrat party?
Look, Obama may have been successful at squeaking out a second term. But for your theory to be true, your side should have gained the majority in the House, it did not. In fact the dems LOST seats. Should have gained a super majority in the US Senate, it did not. In fact the GOP held steady. Should have gained a majority of state governor seats. It did not. In fact the GOP GAINED governor seats....Should have retaken state legislatures. It did not. In fact republicans picked up seats from democrats. In fact many states maintained their majorities in state legislatures. NC has for the first time in 100 years an all GOP legislature and a GOP governor.
It appears your assessment of the demise of the GOP is premature.
So you can go suck shit through a straw.
We will make it our mission to take back the country from the scourge of liberalism
Oh, and If Obama thinks by demanding a $1.6 trillion tax increase, he will get bi-partisan support now, he can fucking forget it. He's ruined any chance he had. Already.
Our side will battle and stop any Obama tax increase he throws down the Hill.
He could have had bipartisan support but he fucked up.
So screw you. You'll have to look elsewhere ( Maybe Sweden..Help ya pack!) for your free shit.

The democrats GAINED seats in the house and senate.

shhhhhhhh..

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Oh man, please let the right wing nuts keep up this "makers vs takers" nonsense and talking seccession. The GOP may be dead and gone by 2014, not even make it to 2016!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

How many minutes do you get with the Obamaphone? Are there different plans? Is the top plan the Michelle?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

How many minutes do you get with the Obamaphone? Are there different plans? Is the top plan the Michelle?

Our Dear Leader is not to be mocked. People like you will be ass-him-lated

 

[mikegriffith1]

Perhaps you're unaware that most of those same red states that you label as "takers" have large minority populations in them. What do you want them to do, deport those folks to other states?

So it's hardly a fair criticism to cite that statistic without mentioning the reason those states consume large amounts of local and federal assistance.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

How many minutes do you get with the Obamaphone? Are there different plans? Is the top plan the Michelle?

Our Dear Leader is not to be mocked. People like you will be ass-him-lated

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws]Obama Claims He's Visited 57 States - YouTube[/ame]

 

[SniperFire]

Perhaps you're unaware that most of those same red states that you label as "takers" have large minority populations in them. What do you want them to do, deport them to other states?

So it's hardly a fair criticism to cite that statistic without mentioning the reason those states consume large amounts of local and federal assistance.

Yes, we have ripped the 'red states are welfare states' meme a gaping new poopshoot.

LOL

 

[mikegriffith1]

By the way, how about we talk about the fiscal condition of red states vs. blue states? How many have balanced budgets? How are their economies doing? The blue states fall far short when measured by these criteria.

 

[nodoginnafight]

But for your theory to be true, your side should have gained the majority in the House, it did not. In fact the dems LOST seats. Should have gained a super majority in the US Senate, it did not. In fact the GOP held steady.

Since the democrats GAINED seats in both the House and Senate and since Democrats actually won more votes in House elections:
"Democrats earned more combined votes in the House elections this year, which means they won the popular vote for that chamber of Congress. For what it’s worth, this marks only the fourth time in the past century that the party with fewer overall votes came away with the House majority."

Barney Frank’s claim about a should-be Democratic House majority - The Washington Post

I am assuming you to be a person of their word and will stuipulate that the theory is true.

 

[Meathead]

Democrats are clustered in urban areas where they often get 80 to 90% of the congressional district vote. It is not surprising then that they failed to win the House even though they had a majority of the vote. The electoral college was certainly not representative of the popular presidential vote either, but no none is bitching about that. It is just the way the system works. The House is safe for Republicans as long as they have sway in rural areas.

We have indeed become a country of government-dependent city mice vs independent country mice.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Oh man, please let the right wing nuts keep up this "makers vs takers" nonsense and talking seccession. The GOP may be dead and gone by 2014, not even make it to 2016!

You people...Your faithlessness in your fellow human being is fantastic.
DO you really believe by 2016 there will be NO opposition to the liberal ideology or the democrat party?
Look, Obama may have been successful at squeaking out a second term. But for your theory to be true, your side should have gained the majority in the House, it did not. In fact the dems LOST seats. Should have gained a super majority in the US Senate, it did not. In fact the GOP held steady. Should have gained a majority of state governor seats. It did not. In fact the GOP GAINED governor seats....Should have retaken state legislatures. It did not. In fact republicans picked up seats from democrats. In fact many states maintained their majorities in state legislatures. NC has for the first time in 100 years an all GOP legislature and a GOP governor.
It appears your assessment of the demise of the GOP is premature.
So you can go suck shit through a straw.
We will make it our mission to take back the country from the scourge of liberalism
Oh, and If Obama thinks by demanding a $1.6 trillion tax increase, he will get bi-partisan support now, he can fucking forget it. He's ruined any chance he had. Already.
Our side will battle and stop any Obama tax increase he throws down the Hill.
He could have had bipartisan support but he fucked up.
So screw you. You'll have to look elsewhere ( Maybe Sweden..Help ya pack!) for your free shit.

The democrats GAINED seats in the house and senate.

Yes, two in the Senate. Three in the House. GOP gained one governorship.
The point is, you people on the left are chortling as though you've conquered the country.
Not true. With all of the democrat pundits such Rachel Madcow screeching that the GOP should become more like the democrats one would believe the democrats swept the country. Didn't happen.
With the liberal wing of the democrat party attempting to shove their radical agenda down our throats, the anger in the electorate will boil over.
So go ahead, shove the country over the cliff. Raise your precious taxes. Two words, political suicide.
You see, nearly half the country is interested in free shit. The other half or slightly over half has to pay for it. When the parasites discover that free shit isn't free, then what?
Do you really believe this is going to fly with the producers?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Once states seceded, they would be directing these efforts themselves.

Actually they would be invaded and occupied by the U.S. military at great cost to their own life and property, in the long run harming their ability to determine their futures more than helping. Just like last time.


But hey - don't let reality get in the way.

Oh bullshit. But hey, roll the dice and take your chances.
In fact, I invite YOU to come get ya some.
Bring friends.

 

[thereisnospoon]

California alone would break the blue empire. What Millbank isn't recognzing that the states considered poor, like Alaska, West Virginia, Kentucky and Montana are very very wealthy. They are kept poor by a federal government that has regulated exploitation of natural resources out of existence. West Virginia and Kentucky have vast mines. Montana is part of the Bakken field. Alaska is delirously wealthy with oil and natural gas. Louisiana would no longer need federal permits to drill off their own gulf coast lines.

Once states seceded, they would be directing these efforts themselves. Farmland would no longer be subjected to the EPA regulations and could grow. Whereas the orchards and fields of California would still be fallow and abandoned to protect the delta smelt.

That's just for starters. The confederacy of blue state takers would still be drifting into degeneracy with a population finding escape in drugs, lazyness and sex without consequences. How wealthy would red states become without having to support the leech cities of Los Angeles, Chicago, Detroit, Flint, Dearbornistan, In a perfect liberal world, these cities are glittering hubs of industry and commerce. In reality they are individual war zones. The Red State Nation would be well rid of them.

Nice kneejerk response, moron. California only receives 78 cents for every tax dollar paid. Why don't you get the facts before running your mouth.

Federal Spending Received Per Dollar of Taxes Paid by State, 2005 | Tax Foundation

As we move the goalposts....

 

[thereisnospoon]

The boy might want to rethink his position, the states Romney carried produce most of the food and energy in this country, if you break it down by county Romney carried close to 80% of the land mass. So he might be the one who should be careful what he wishes for.

Land mass can't vote.

Presidential elections should be decided by county. Each state should do as Nebraska and Maine do. The counties won by each candidate mandate the Electors votes.
This balances the voting strength between urban and non urban areas.
The current system disenfranchises non urban voting precincts.
Oh we still have to reconcile the ZERO vote totals in 59 Philadelphia precincts. The precincts where there were more votes cast than eligible voters.
And other nonsense. Of course voter ID is going to become an even larger campaign issue in states where people have had enough of the cheating.
On BOTH sides.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Where to start....

WV and KY....vast mining opportunities you say? Once the states broke the unions, who would mine the coal? Illegal immigrants?

Alaska is deliriously rich with oil. Sarah Palin already has the oil companies paying the state for the right to work there. Without protected shipping lanes, how will this oil be transported? Or do you foresee Alaska with all of it's wealth creating a Navy too?

Farmland? What farmland? Without the farm subsidies provided by the Federal government, most farmers would go out of business.

You are assuming that all people are like lazy democrats. Who worked in the mines before the unions? People who wanted to work. Farm subsidies are used to pay farmers NOT TO GROW and keep prices artificially high and satisfy agreements regarding importation of produce. Take away the farm subsidies and the fields would bloom. With the money Alaska could have, yep they can hire their own Navy.

We have become a country literally terrified of freedom. If we stop paying farmers not to grow, whatever will they DO! They won't be able to survive if the government didn't pay them not to grow food so we can adhere to agreements with Chile to buy what they grow.

So, why is it just RED states that take the farm subsidies? Why is it the GOP who always pushes back whenever the idea surfaces to eliminate said subsidies?

Umm, rural areas tend ot vote GOP. And in the world of politics, one must bring stuff home to get elected.
I think farm subsidies should be STOPPED.