Tech_Esq
Sic Semper Tyrannis!
"Us" who gunny?
People who would take up arms against the legally constituted government?
Are you really advocating a military coup?
I think I've been pretty clear that I am not advocating taking up arms against the US government. In fact, I have said just the opposite on more than one occasion. The mechanism exists to remove the current politicians from office.
My comment centered solely on a response to the usual, ignorant comment from a faux patriot doing his blind support for the government. The government supports the Constitution. The Constitution does not support politicians. It supports a type of government within its framework.
Yeah, okay.
At what point does one finally decide that the government has gone so rogue that one will take up arms against it?
And if one happens to be in uniform, at what point does somebody in the service decide to shoot their officers who are still supporting that government?
You see what I am asking you, here?
It's easu to speak in theoretical terms, but when push comes to shove how do you KNOW?
It isn't like our government is going to announce that they're totalitarians.
And it isn't like you'll get a fucking email announcing it's time to revolt either, is it?
Revolutions just don't work that way.
Each one of us will find that we are forced to decide for ourselves when the revolution starts.
In the meanwhile those of us in uniform will have little choice but to obey orders.
So what YOUR tipping point?
Be specific, now.
When you are told to fire upon civilians as, for example, US troops have done often in our long history?
And when you finally decide to off your officers, how will you KNOW that the team you are now on will give you a better freeer outcome than the government you are now in opposition to?
Seriously, gun, this talk of revolt is rather silly.
How does one choose up sides?
WACO was an appauling example of our government gone mad, was it not?
So how did you feel when the Federal building was blown in retaliation?
Did you dismiss the dead children in that act of revolution as mere unfortunate collatoral damages, or did you feel that that (possibly justified) retribution just end up killing a lot of innocent people?
This is the problem with revolutions....too many innocent citizens get killed by angry jerks.
Angry jerks like we have aplenty right here on this board.
You are right about each person having to decide. I think your examples are off the mark.
What some on the left are missing right now is they think the right is pissed off because they lost an election. I personally think that's thought is more about transference and how the left felt about Gore v. Bush, but be that as it may, the right is not pissed off about losing an election. You may not believe me, but there it is.
The right is pissed off because they see the country and its basic foundations being fundamentally changed. So, when you ask about the tipping point, many on the right are going through those very tough calculations right now. When will I be so enraged by the unlawful actions of the government that I will not go to work, but instead participate in acts of civil disobedience? And will I go even further if there is no relent by the government?
But, as I noted back a few pages, I don't think we will get to that point soon. I think that Americans are too fat, dumb and happy to do much of anything. So, if the Government can keep us asleep until they have us fully wrapped in their icy grip, by the time we get pissed enough to do something, we won't have the means.